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sirio76

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That graph is BS but to be expected of marketing. Doesn't say what it's doing or running. And, they purposely chose worst case for the comparisons like probably an old Intel Macbook because no way M1 is that much better in performance than Intel 11th gen Xe iGPU.
I'm wandering what are you doing here on a Mac forum if you think that Macs are crap, seems your sole scope here is to bash Mac products.
 

Piplodocus

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This is M1 Pro, not M1 Max.
Yep, that's what I said in the post - I realised my mistake during the googling, much to my delight! ?

Anyway, only one way to find out how fast this thing is... I've just bought one! Whatever the final scores are I need a new MacBook anyway and it's gonna beat the living daylights out of the GT330M in this 2010 17" MBP with dual-core i7 2.66 GHz!!! I may literally s**t myself inside-out when this beast turns up and I experience its performance: there's no possible way I'm not gonna be incredibly impressed! ? 11 years is a good enough innings for a laptop, but I think I thoroughly deserve a new one at this point.
 
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diamond.g

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Mar 20, 2007
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So how does the highend gpu compare to Mac Pro GPUs like the w5700x and the w6800?
So far I think the consensus is same as the W5700x and therefore slower than the W6800.

EDIT: as long as you are not hitting the ASICS in the M1 (the ProRes/HEVC encoder/decoder). If you are, then it will be significantly faster because from my understanding Apple doesn’t use any of the encoding hardware on AMD cards.
 
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mi7chy

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What they won't tell you is you have to get 64GB for multi-channel memory bandwidth otherwise it probably diminishes with every step down.
 

dfroshie

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OK, you all are way smarter and more educated at this on the memory bandwidth etc. BUT...
All this doesn't do me any good. Because at the end of the day why do most people buy a 3080/3090? To PLAY games. If the platform wont let me play AAA games across the ecosystem then what good is it? Sure its fast....no doubt. Does it help video professionals? No doubt yes! But for most of us who need it to work on the rest of the industries "fun stuff". NOPE.
 

triton100

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So far I think the consensus is same as the W5700x and therefore slower than the W6800.

EDIT: as long as you are not hitting the ASICS in the M1 (the ProRes/HEVC encoder/decoder). If you are, then it will be significantly faster because from my understanding Apple doesn’t use any of the encoding hardware on AMD cards.
Wow as fast as the w5700x ? That’s impressive.
 
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chumps

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OK, you all are way smarter and more educated at this on the memory bandwidth etc. BUT...
All this doesn't do me any good. Because at the end of the day why do most people buy a 3080/3090? To PLAY games. If the platform wont let me play AAA games across the ecosystem then what good is it? Sure its fast....no doubt. Does it help video professionals? No doubt yes! But for most of us who need it to work on the rest of the industries "fun stuff". NOPE.

I don't play games, but the new GPU's are very relevant. Lot's of people don't play games but need all the GPU power they can get.
 

dfroshie

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I don't play games, but the new GPU's are very relevant. Lot's of people don't play games but need all the GPU power they can get.
Yep totally agree. I hope these new chips help drive your business needs or hobbies. Unfortunately mine are a bit different.
 

chumps

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Yep totally agree. I hope these new chips help drive your business needs or hobbies. Unfortunately mine are a bit different.
Luckily there are seem to be a lot of SKU's GPU wise, more than I expected to be honest. Lot's of flexibility in terms of budget and need.
 

chumps

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Interesting thread. Are you guys (and gals) looking to buy the laptop to gig the kid down the block who has the gaming rig with so many leds as to give a normal person epilepsy...

Or do you actually want a machine to do your work?
Huh? People that need the GPU power need it. Even then, some people would throw more money at it for more performance.
 

MalcolmH

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Erm, the M1 Max has 400GB/s of bandwidth over 512bit LPDDR5 bus. There won’t be any issues in that area - at all.
and a unified memory architecture so it shouldnt spend time copying data back and forth to the CPU memory ?
 

Gnattu

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What they won't tell you is you have to get 64GB for multi-channel memory bandwidth otherwise it probably diminishes with every step down.
It is harder to make it this way than provide consistent 400GB/s for the MAX.
 
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UBS28

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Wel, on paper it matches 3080. They compared it with a Razer 15 Advanced with 3080 RTX and said that it delivers the same performance with 100Watt less power.

Matches at what exactly? The RTX 3080 is a gaming GPU, so it should be assessed at how it performs in games.
 

katewes

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When reviewing GPU benchmarks of notebooks such as the Razer, it must be remembered that there's a difference between, for example, RTX 3080 vs. 3080 mobile.


The desktop Nvidia is around 60% faster than the equivalent mobile GPU.

Hence when we get excited about the M1 Max getting close to the 3070 mobile, we need to realise that could be around 60% slower than the 3070 desktop
 

sunny5

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When reviewing GPU benchmarks of notebooks such as the Razer, it must be remembered that there's a difference between, for example, RTX 3080 vs. 3080 mobile.


The desktop Nvidia is around 60% faster than the equivalent mobile GPU.

Hence when we get excited about the M1 Max getting close to the 3070 mobile, we need to realise that could be around 60% slower than the 3070 desktop
Yes, I've been talking about MOBILE 3080, not DESKTOP 3080. People seem confused somehow. We probably need compared with MOBILE 3080 cause that's what Apple compared with.
 

KPOM

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I wonder what they will call the chip that goes into the Mac Pro. They have used up Pro and Max. Maybe Extreme? Pro Max? I assume the larger iMac and higher end Mac mini will get the M1 Pro and M1 Max.
 

sunny5

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I wonder what they will call the chip that goes into the Mac Pro. They have used up Pro and Max. Maybe Extreme? Pro Max? I assume the larger iMac and higher end Mac mini will get the M1 Pro and M1 Max.
We dont even know if it uses M series name. So far, M1, M1 Pro, M1 Max are mobile SoC chips and all Apple Silicon product so far are laptops and desktop with mobile chips. So it might be different on desktop computers.
 
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