Agree. Twitter, Mail, Whatsapp, Facebook - just scrolling through the card views shutter on a 6 Plus on 9.0.2. It's embarrassing since these type of issues only appear in Android. And yet, I'm stuck with the Apple Ecosystem.
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So turns out iOS 9 is actually laggy
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Why does the RAM suddenly matter? On iOS 8 these problems didn't exist. What is so great about iOS 9 that makes stutters acceptable? What's the upside of all this? Is there any? Please explain.
This kind of comments is why I read apple forums before upgrade my devices. What is sad is that I feel like I would love to pay $30 to 'upgrade' my ip6 to iOS 6 just to get a taste of how fxxking smooth the device would be.
1GB RAM is not to be blamed for stutter.
It is poor coding. Lack of RAM causes page reloads and apps getting purged from it very quickly.
It seems 9.0.2 fixed it. It much more smooth on both devices.
I do still feel that some apps still do take a bit longer to show when you opened them.
The keyboard issue with lag is only with Path Input for iPad on my iPad mini2 but no longer with Swype or Apple's own keyboard.
I disagree with you. Ever since i did the iOS 9.0.2 last week the speed/performance on my iPhone 5s and iPad mini2 is much smoother and is almost the same as with 8.4.1. The 9.0 and 9.0.1 were awfully slow.
I did also have keyboard issues running 9.0 and 9.0.1 but since 9.0.2. is don't any lag anymore with Apple's. I do see some lag with the 3rd party Swype keyboard. The lag i'm seeing with the keyboard is when i swipe down to do a Spotlight search then i see a bit of lag for 3rd party keyboard Swype to show. It does seem that Path Input for iPad has major lag since iOS9. I wrote the developer a message to update their app so you can use it again.
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Anything with card views is awful now. Not sure how Apple screwed this up so bad. Even in iOS 9.1 beta 3 they haven't fixed it. I sent them numerous feedback since the early iOS 9 betas too.
My guess is that iOS 9 simply isn't finished yet and that Apple simply wanted to avoid the buggy iOS 8 release. All performance issues aside, I do feel iOS 9 very usable and stable. Also, I have the feeling that the iOS 9 Metal optimizations aren't in place yet, or at least isn't finished yet.
I think Apple will not address these performance issues before iOS 9.2 (9.1 being a release mainly for the iPad Pro).
If you're seeing dropped frames/hesitation/stuttering while scrolling, please file a bug report at http://bugreport.apple.com/ - file a report for each app where you observe the dropped frames/hesitation/stuttering while scrolling (Mail, Safari, Settings, etc.). A developer account is not required and it's the only way to get this resolved.
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I have been doing that since early iOS 9 betas. I'm on 9.1 beta 3 now and it's still not fixed.
I think it will be fixed at one point in time. I just wish Apple does not have to be so ambitious with their release schedule. They don't need to launch a new version of iOS every year. I'm happy with just point release that improves on the experience.
My iPhone 6 and iPad 3 are noticeably slower on iOS 9.0.1/2 than on iOS 8.4 which is really saying something because I didn't think my iPad 3 could get any slower.
HOWEVER, I tried the iOS 9.1 public beta 2 on my iPad 3 before iOS 9 came out and say a noticeable improvement in performance and scrolling, so I'm optimistic. If my iPad 3 gets noticeably faster on iOS 9.1, my iPhone 6 should scream!
I think, as is the case every year, Apple releases a new OS before it's ready to keep up the hype and then smooth it out over the year before they repeat the process.
HOWEVER, I tried the iOS 9.1 public beta 2 on my iPad 3 before iOS 9 came out and say a noticeable improvement in performance and scrolling, so I'm optimistic. If my iPad 3 gets noticeably faster on iOS 9.1, my iPhone 6 should scream!
I think, as is the case every year, Apple releases a new OS before it's ready to keep up the hype and then smooth it out over the year before they repeat the process.
So it's not my imagination?
I'm looking to buy an iPad (Mini 4 or Air 2) and so went into the store yesterday to have a look for myself. This would be my first Apple device since owning an iPod Touch 4th gen as a child. I held out for a long time but my brother recently convinced my that tablets are cool. Noticed the obvious choppiness in the task switcher on my brother's Air (1) straight away. Saw in the store that the Mini 4 does suffer from slight choppiness every now and then, but not as pronounced as the Air (1). The Air 2 barely ever seems to miss a beat though and appears to run task switcher animations at 60fps almost all the time.
It's hardly an ideal situation though as the store iPads were all charging, running a bazillion apps and were all quite warm.
In another store, a Mini 2 was still running iOS 8.4.1 and wow, it was so much more responsive and fluid. Animations didn't skip a beat, ever. That's the legendary iOS smoothness that I've heard so much about.
I hope that this is resolved in an update soon.
I'm looking to buy an iPad (Mini 4 or Air 2) and so went into the store yesterday to have a look for myself. This would be my first Apple device since owning an iPod Touch 4th gen as a child. I held out for a long time but my brother recently convinced my that tablets are cool. Noticed the obvious choppiness in the task switcher on my brother's Air (1) straight away. Saw in the store that the Mini 4 does suffer from slight choppiness every now and then, but not as pronounced as the Air (1). The Air 2 barely ever seems to miss a beat though and appears to run task switcher animations at 60fps almost all the time.
It's hardly an ideal situation though as the store iPads were all charging, running a bazillion apps and were all quite warm.
In another store, a Mini 2 was still running iOS 8.4.1 and wow, it was so much more responsive and fluid. Animations didn't skip a beat, ever. That's the legendary iOS smoothness that I've heard so much about.
I hope that this is resolved in an update soon.
Yeah, it doesn't matter how many apps are "running" as you put it. You could've had all those apps open at once on 8.4.1 and it would be just as smooth as ever.
Your experience seems to match what most of us are experiencing in iOS 9. Lots of animations are either delayed or choppy.
So clearly not everyone has issues or has them the same degree given that someone who notices them on one device doesn't seem them side by side on another device.
Everyone has this issue. Why are you in denial? Why can't you accept the fact that iOS 9 is laggy? I don't care what some people say on this forum about how smooth their iPhone is on iOS 9, they're either lying or they aren't sensitive to frame drops.
When I was in the store I saw that the new iPhone 6S and 6S Plus were lightning fast, much more fluid than even the iPad Air 2. The higher resolution of the iPads clearly is working against them.
It's clear that iOS 9.0 had been designed to show off the power of the new iPhones and iPad Pro at the expense of the earlier models.
I hope that Apple find a way to preserve the graphical effects of the OS, without bogging down the hardware on earlier iOS devices. Sure, you can pretty much eliminate the choppiness by using only a static wallpaper and disabling the transparency effects but then it feels as though you're not getting the full iOS experience. That's bad for a product that's only two years old. For comparison my two year old Nexus 5 has never been smoother running Android 6.0. Apple can't afford to let their reputation of great post-purchase software support be diminished in this way.
iOS 9.0.x appears to be equivalent to Android 5.0.x Lollipop. Loads of great new features, but very poor software optimisation. Another fitting comparison would be Windows Vista.
It's clear that iOS 9.0 had been designed to show off the power of the new iPhones and iPad Pro at the expense of the earlier models.
I hope that Apple find a way to preserve the graphical effects of the OS, without bogging down the hardware on earlier iOS devices. Sure, you can pretty much eliminate the choppiness by using only a static wallpaper and disabling the transparency effects but then it feels as though you're not getting the full iOS experience. That's bad for a product that's only two years old. For comparison my two year old Nexus 5 has never been smoother running Android 6.0. Apple can't afford to let their reputation of great post-purchase software support be diminished in this way.
iOS 9.0.x appears to be equivalent to Android 5.0.x Lollipop. Loads of great new features, but very poor software optimisation. Another fitting comparison would be Windows Vista.
Except the post I quoted clearly comes from someone who sees the issue and yet doesn't see it when comparing to another device. Clearly what you are saying doesn't fit as absolutely as some keep on trying to make it out to be. But sure lets lump people into categories of being liars or blind, that definitely is a convenient way of ignoring reality.
It's a X.0 update that doesn't have everything worked out. Hard to say that iOS 9 once it's mature won't or will be that update just yet, the potential for it to be is certainly there.i hear iOS 9 is a performance and stability update. when its not, what is it?
It's pretty suspicious that the iPhone 6s didn't have a trace of lag when I handled it.In fact comparing my iPhone to the 6s is like comparing IOS and android
You haven't tested it enough, it stutters slightly (barely noticable on app draw, and far more noticable and choppy in FB app, spotlight search "settings" app, cellular network app settings page, app store main page (before it fully loads) on my 6s with Samsung.
I'm speaking for the iPhone 6 as that's the only model I can test on a daily basis. I'm not talking about the iPod Air 2 and the 6s as I do not have those devices.
However, every iPhone 6 and 5s I've been able to use, has the same legginess to them. It's not the phone, it's that the OS isn't optimized properly for those devices.
I know it's not just my iPhone either because I've done DFU restores, restored from backup, setup as new phone, reset all settings, updated over the air, updated through iTunes, and even did a full restore as new with absolutely NO extra content on it besides the default Apple stuff and it was the same every time. Metal just isn't designed to run on this hardware optimally.
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