So turns out iOS 9 is actually laggy

[Cakefish]

I was really pumped in getting an Air 2 but the general choppiness in using the tablet in everyday use is so prevalent that I'm worried that I've made a mistake.

The Pixel C tablet from Google isn't released yet, but I'm already wondering if I should have got that instead.

 

[I7guy]

That's the point.
What are the business defined limits and trigger points?
Either a business is about and focuses on consumer satisfaction OR a business focuses on the profit model.
Currently (my opinion) Apple is focused on the profit model and leveraging their current "brand recognition" to keep those profits coming.

This is not a long term sustainable model.

So with 500 million customers, Apple will have some satisfied customers and some not so satisfied customers. It's inevitable.

I think Apple has done an excellent job in Balancing growth and satisfaction.

 

[Jayson A]

So with 500 million customers, Apple will have some satisfied customers and some not so satisfied customers. It's inevitable.

I think Apple has done an excellent job in Balancing growth and satisfaction.

I love Apple and all, but I'm at least willing to admit when I'm not satisfied with their product. I'm unhappy with iOS 9 and I'm seriously thinking about switching to an Android device. I've always been an Apple fan, but I'm losing my faith in them and the competition seems more enticing than ever.

I'm sick of my music glitching out and starting half way into a song for no reason and having to restart to fix it. I'm tired of the choppy animations. I'm tired of running out of ram to keep web pages loaded or having the song start over because Music.app was purged from the ram. I'm tired of having issues copying music to my phone and having the information not update (such as the album year). I don't want any of my stuff in the cloud.

I'm just getting to the point where I just don't wanna use my phone anymore. It's becoming a hassle now, but in the past it used to give me very little issues.

I'm getting tired of putting up with Apple's crap. They once were a great company.

 

[dk001]

I love Apple and all, but I'm at least willing to admit when I'm not satisfied with their product. I'm unhappy with iOS 9 and I'm seriously thinking about switching to an Android device. I've always been an Apple fan, but I'm losing my faith in them and the competition seems more enticing than ever.

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I'm getting tired of putting up with Apple's crap. They once were a great company.

I went from Windows Mobile to BB to iOS and now Android has become my primary choice. It's not that Apple isn't good, it's more that iOS isn't what it once was. I'm tired of having to find work-arounds and these days it seems we have to wait longer and longer to get a good stable version of the current iOS.
Kind of sad. I have a lot invested in the iOS app world.

 

[I7guy]

I love Apple and all, but I'm at least willing to admit when I'm not satisfied with their product. I'm unhappy with iOS 9 and I'm seriously thinking about switching to an Android device. I've always been an Apple fan, but I'm losing my faith in them and the competition seems more enticing than ever.

I'm sick of my music glitching out and starting half way into a song for no reason and having to restart to fix it. I'm tired of the choppy animations. I'm tired of running out of ram to keep web pages loaded or having the song start over because Music.app was purged from the ram. I'm tired of having issues copying music to my phone and having the information not update (such as the album year). I don't want any of my stuff in the cloud.

I'm just getting to the point where I just don't wanna use my phone anymore. It's becoming a hassle now, but in the past it used to give me very little issues.

I'm getting tired of putting up with Apple's crap. They once were a great company.

I'm talking at the highest of levels. Really, I would hope that all issues are soon resolved and acknowledge that feeling of dissatisfaction. But people have their own yardstick and use case and what constitutes usability for them.

 

[bchreng]

I love Apple and all, but I'm at least willing to admit when I'm not satisfied with their product. I'm unhappy with iOS 9 and I'm seriously thinking about switching to an Android device. I've always been an Apple fan, but I'm losing my faith in them and the competition seems more enticing than ever.

I'm sick of my music glitching out and starting half way into a song for no reason and having to restart to fix it. I'm tired of the choppy animations. I'm tired of running out of ram to keep web pages loaded or having the song start over because Music.app was purged from the ram. I'm tired of having issues copying music to my phone and having the information not update (such as the album year). I don't want any of my stuff in the cloud.

I'm just getting to the point where I just don't wanna use my phone anymore. It's becoming a hassle now, but in the past it used to give me very little issues.

I'm getting tired of putting up with Apple's crap. They once were a great company.

Android isn't much better. Lollipop lags pretty bad on my 2nd gen Nexus 7 tablet. Things aren't much better for the smartphones of that generation either. Your hatred towards Apple might let you look past that though.

 

[sanke1]

iPhone 6S is damn smooth on iOS 9. But not perfect like iPhone 5S on iOS 7 or iPhone 5 on iOS 6.

Will it be equally smooth on iOS 12 ??

In Windows ecosystem, PCs which score 5000 and up in geekbench show no problems in drawing Windows UI. They all do it smoothly. No lags or stutters.

iPhones and iPads are already achieving near 5000 scores. So after 1-2 generations, we would reach a hardware saturation point where Apple would not be able to give us the excuse that "uhh this hardware is not capable of our new UI". That is the point we all can confirm of this planned obsolescence strategy or their UI coders are downright incapable to extract maximum from the hardware.

I remember 1st iPhone which was released around 2007. It had such a lowly processor and GPU but it's UI was smooth at it's time.

But this year's 6S too stutters at random times. Seems like they have borked their code somewhere to add new things into it.

 

[dk001]

Android isn't much better. Lollipop lags pretty bad on my 2nd gen Nexus 7 tablet. Things aren't much better for the smartphones of that generation either. Your hatred towards Apple might let you look past that though.

I see Jayson A post as a dissatisfaction, not hate. Don't inflame. Hate is an ugly word unless specifically intended.

Nexus 7 - 1st and 2nd gen should not have had Lollipop - hardware isn't really designed for it.
At least you can go back to a previous version. Or get a different brand tablet.

 

[Jayson A]

I see Jayson A post as a dissatisfaction, not hate. Don't inflame. Hate is an ugly word unless specifically intended.

Nexus 7 - 1st and 2nd gen should not have had Lollipop - hardware isn't really designed for it.
At least you can go back to a previous version. Or get a different brand tablet.

It kinda sucks because I don't really like any of the options that are available right now. I just want my iPhone to work like it's supposed to again. Ever since iOS 7, it's been a giant mess.

Oh, and wifi sync used to work, but doesn't anymore. Ever since iOS 8, syncing has been a real pain in the ass.

 

[Merkie]

iPhone 6S is damn smooth on iOS 9. But not perfect like iPhone 5S on iOS 7 or iPhone 5 on iOS 6.

Will it be equally smooth on iOS 12 ??

In Windows ecosystem, PCs which score 5000 and up in geekbench show no problems in drawing Windows UI. They all do it smoothly. No lags or stutters.

iPhones and iPads are already achieving near 5000 scores. So after 1-2 generations, we would reach a hardware saturation point where Apple would not be able to give us the excuse that "uhh this hardware is not capable of our new UI". That is the point we all can confirm of this planned obsolescence strategy or their UI coders are downright incapable to extract maximum from the hardware.

I remember 1st iPhone which was released around 2007. It had such a lowly processor and GPU but it's UI was smooth at it's time.

But this year's 6S too stutters at random times. Seems like they have borked their code somewhere to add new things into it.

It feels like some hardware acceleration is missing and the 6s is only somewhat smoother than the 6 because of the raw horse power it's got. Not saying that this is the case, but it feels like it is.

It's weird that a three-year-old phone is smoother than the 6s in some aspects (most notably Control Center).

 

[Radon87000]

It feels like some hardware acceleration is missing and the 6s is only somewhat smoother than the 6 because of the raw horse power it's got. Not saying that this is the case, but it feels like it is.

It's weird that a three-year-old phone is smoother than the 6s in some aspects (most notably Control Center).

Exactly.6S is bruteforcing its way through the lag just like my Air 2'does but they all hitch because of inefficient code.Thinking Apple needs to do something like Project Butter on iOS

 

[Radon87000]

I was really pumped in getting an Air 2 but the general choppiness in using the tablet in everyday use is so prevalent that I'm worried that I've made a mistake.

The Pixel C tablet from Google isn't released yet, but I'm already wondering if I should have got that instead.

Thing is Android also has lag.Albeit the lag is not consistent like it's right now on iOS .But yeah given a choice I am ready to trade my Air 2 for a Pixel C

 

[I7guy]

It feels like some hardware acceleration is missing and the 6s is only somewhat smoother than the 6 because of the raw horse power it's got. Not saying that this is the case, but it feels like it is.

It's weird that a three-year-old phone is smoother than the 6s in some aspects (most notably Control Center).

It feels like the 6s is a rocket ship. I'll deal with the one place the 6s is not smooth(recents) over anther year old supposedly "smooth phone".

 

[newellj]

Not sure either way. On the one hand, the product line, especially the laptops, is confused, over-populated and under-innovated (except that when Apple does innovate, like the rMB, they get nothing but hate here...). On the other hand, it's possible that the Watch and less likely the iPP and new ATV will turn out to be major hits. In any case, life is not a straight line - lots of twists, turns and even cul de sacs. Time will tell.

 

[Cakefish]

I hope that iOS 9.1 final fixes the issues. They're still prevalent in 9.1 beta 5, though improved over 9.0.2.

 

[Merkie]

It feels like the 6s is a rocket ship. I'll deal with the one place the 6s is not smooth(recents) over anther year old supposedly "smooth phone".

It's been established multiple times that you don't even know 30fps or 60fps is and that you're unable to see the difference.

That being said, the 6s should be smooth as silk. A 15fps drawer animation when drawing up the Control Center is unacceptable.

 

[C DM]

It's been established multiple times that you don't even know 30fps or 60fps is and that you're unable to see the difference.

That being said, the 6s should be smooth as silk. A 15fps drawer animation when drawing up the Control Center is unacceptable.

Alright, it's unacceptable for some of those that experience it. Certainly far from making anything unusable or horrific, but, sure, let's go with unacceptable. The more important question then (now that we've established all of that): now what?

 

[Merkie]

Alright, it's unacceptable for some of those that experience it. Certainly far from making anything unusable or horrific, but, sure, let's go with unacceptable. The more important question then (now that we've established all of that): now what?

Apple should fix it asap.

 

[C DM]

Apple should fix it asap.

Sure.

 

[I7guy]

It's been established multiple times that you don't even know 30fps or 60fps is and that you're unable to see the difference.

That being said, the 6s should be smooth as silk. A 15fps drawer animation when drawing up the Control Center is unacceptable.

Doesn't seem like anything more to discuss either way, right?

 

[dk001]

Alright, it's unacceptable for some of those that experience it. Certainly far from making anything unusable or horrific, but, sure, let's go with unacceptable. The more important question then (now that we've established all of that): now what?

My car was in an accident and is crumpled, looked like crap, however the lights work and it runs.
It's not unusable or horrific. Yet I want it fixed.

Why be satisfied with less than what the device is capable of?
Unless you're complacent. Or ignorant.

Apple just needs to fix it and do better.

 

[Benjamin Frost]

Weird.

Still on iOS 8.3 for iPhone 5 and iPad Air 2. Both used to soft reboot once a day every day. For the past two or three weeks, they haven't.

So I’ll wait for at least iOS 9.1 before upgrading. I like my iTunes metadata too much.

 

[dk001]

Weird.

Still on iOS 8.3 for iPhone 5 and iPad Air 2. Both used to soft reboot once a day every day. For the past two or three weeks, they haven't.

So I’ll wait for at least iOS 9.1 before upgrading. I like my iTunes metadata too much.

You may have to wait beyond 9.1 for that safety

 

[C DM]

My car was in an accident and is crumpled, looked like crap, however the lights work and it runs.
It's not unusable or horrific. Yet I want it fixed.

Why be satisfied with less than what the device is capable of?
Unless you're complacent. Or ignorant.

Apple just needs to fix it and do better.

Great. Will this or any of the other threads get them to do it or really to do anything they were or weren't or are or aren't going to do based on their own decisions? Nope.

(And as usual, as analogies go, and especially car ones: similar idea but quite a bit of differences between the objects in question that makes it all an apples to oranges comparison at best.)

 

[masands]

Personally I feel Tim Cook is more of a businessman than a visionary like Jobs who always strived for that "magical experience".iOS 6 and below are testament to this fact

People have short memories. Yes iOS 6 was fast, really fast on the iPhone 4S and iPhone 5. However, it killed my iPhone 3GS. This has been going on for a long time. iPhone 3G killed by iOS4 etc.