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So turns out iOS 9 is actually laggy
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Yesterday I took an iPhone 3GS with iOS 6 and runs better than iPhone 4s with iOS 9. 
Yesterday I took an iPhone 3GS with iOS 6 and runs better than iPhone 4s with iOS 9.
I could have told you that. I left my old iPhone 4s (now used by my mom) running 7.1.2 which is running pretty smooth. Ever since iOS8 it was a known fact that upgrading a 4s is not a good idea as far as speed/performance wise.
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I still have major lag issues with the 3rd party keyboards running both on iOS9.02 (iPad mini2) and iOS9.1 beta 5 (iPhone 5s). I've also seen that on my iPad mini2 i sometimes don't see the third party keyboard at all with Spotlight search and the Apple keyboard shows although i see the 3rd party keyboard with other apps.
Apples will hopefully fix it. And then you and a few other people move to a different iOS topic and continue questioning terminology, methodology, people reactions and so on until Apple finally resolves the next issue. Honestly i have no idea why these ongoing problems should be downplayed? There is no upside for the customers. If nobody complains, writes bugs reports, contacts the customer support or makes genius appointments, Apple won't change anything. But if at least a few people do this, we all get a better version of iOS.
Unless you're working for them, you don't know that. I don't know it either. But i doubt that Apple is completely out of touch with the public opinions. We can probably assume, that macrumors is not their primary source, but sometimes certain topics get picked up by mainstream media. E.g. They noticed the problems with the iOS 8 installation size and tried to make it easier with next iterations. And Tim Cook stated recently that they know about peoples wish to delete preinstalled apps and that they are working on a solution to make these people happy. So Apple is probably not completely deaf.
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I agree things should be fixed as appropriate but this is a forum for discussing such things. On the other hand maybe you and a few other people will stop insinuating people are morons because according to them the problem exists and those that are happy with a release are too dumb/stupid to notice it.
This thread, its contents are a basic rehash every October. It's the way things seem to go. And what you said about TC allegedly working on deleting apps: "it's not what SJ would do", which is what what distinguishes this mgmt team from the past.
1. Everyone got worked up because the exact same animations which ran perfectly smooth in iOS 7 & 8 started to stutter and drop frames.
2. Now why was there a need to add a new task switcher in iOS 9? Neither does it show substantially more number of apps to choose from nor does it allow us to clear all apps from RAM at once. What purpose does it serve?
The only thing it is good at is dropping massive frames and causing lag/stutter. (BTW, it does not look fancy either)
3. Why do all apps have to take extra 1-2 seconds to launch?
4. Why smooth scrolling is not so smooth all of a sudden? (Use WhatsApp on iPhone 5/5c and try to scroll recent chats) The scrolling is at 10-15 fps. It's painful.
Even if Apple do manage to fix these issues by iOS 9.4 (or whatever) by Aug next year, again the Sept release of iOS 10 would be similarly gimped.
So effectively we get 1-2 months for best iOS experience. THIS is unacceptable.
If you look carefully, most of the iOS 8/9 complaints are regarding lag and stutter. It's high time Apple makes a note of this post. They should literally fire underperforming staff who just cannot get basics of good UI right. A bit harsh, I know otherwise, the experience will keep on degrading every year. Soon Apple might find themselves in place of Blackberry. (Slow, clunky and expensive)
2. Now why was there a need to add a new task switcher in iOS 9? Neither does it show substantially more number of apps to choose from nor does it allow us to clear all apps from RAM at once. What purpose does it serve?
The only thing it is good at is dropping massive frames and causing lag/stutter. (BTW, it does not look fancy either)
3. Why do all apps have to take extra 1-2 seconds to launch?
4. Why smooth scrolling is not so smooth all of a sudden? (Use WhatsApp on iPhone 5/5c and try to scroll recent chats) The scrolling is at 10-15 fps. It's painful.
Even if Apple do manage to fix these issues by iOS 9.4 (or whatever) by Aug next year, again the Sept release of iOS 10 would be similarly gimped.
So effectively we get 1-2 months for best iOS experience. THIS is unacceptable.
If you look carefully, most of the iOS 8/9 complaints are regarding lag and stutter. It's high time Apple makes a note of this post. They should literally fire underperforming staff who just cannot get basics of good UI right. A bit harsh, I know otherwise, the experience will keep on degrading every year. Soon Apple might find themselves in place of Blackberry. (Slow, clunky and expensive)
I don't know what you're trying to project into my posts. I always argued that human perception of UI can be different. There is no value attached. If you feel offended by that, i can't help you. I would gladly switch positions, because in the end you're the one, who is satisfied and has a perfectly working device. Maybe you get some of the harsh answers, because constantly point this out this in a thread, where a lot of people seem to have problems. And least one thing has changed since last October, we got rid of the laggy animation when switching cities in the weather app.
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They shouldn't fire anyone, they should rethink their development process. Currently, Apple releases a bunch of new features in September and then they continue to polish the OS throughout the year. What they should be doing (in my opinion ofcourse) is release one new feature at a time that actually works and doesn't need much polishing (one minor update every two months instead of one major update every year). That would require Apple to rethink their new iPhone / new iOS bundling strategy ofcourse.
Basic reality is a good indicator. Same
Complaints have been around in thread after thread for years since iOS 7 release, and clearly Apple hasn't been even remotely listening or affected by those complaints given that year after year the same exact ones get rehashed hundreds of times over and over again. That tells a rather telling story about it all which is hard to ignore.
As for discussing things, I guess pointlessly blowing things out of proportion and implying what's not actually there and this basically misleading other people who are reading threads to be more informed is clearly better than pointing out those things, right? Yeah.
Same type of lag and stutter problems were there in iOS 7.0 and 8.0 and that's on top of a whole bunch of even worse stability, performance, and functional issues that existed in those versions.
As far as opening apps, that isn't an issue that exists for everyone. You can say people don't notice it or don't care about it, but I can tell you for certain that opening apps on my devices doesn't take 1 or 2 seconds longer than before even when I specially look for that and try to specially time things.
As far as the app switcher or some other similar things go, that's what Apple decided to do. No one here will know why that's the case. Nothing about that be done aside from Apple deciding to change it again at some point.
The worst part of that is I use the old multitasking for say writing an essay, i keep a screen shot of the content or whatever I need for it open in photos, and I just double tap and its the next app open, so I can see what i need, then go back into pages. Also if you have an A5 device, they removed the quick contacts from multitasking, and they haven't been put back anywhere
Actually if you enable "Siri search" you can swipe left from the Home screen and you'll see them there along with some rectly used apps and news items.The worst part of that is I use the old multitasking for say writing an essay, i keep a screen shot of the content or whatever I need for it open in photos, and I just double tap and its the next app open, so I can see what i need, then go back into pages. Also if you have an A5 device, they removed the quick contacts from multitasking, and they haven't been put back anywhere
Oh thats right... the iPad 2 is the only iOS 9 device that doesn't have siri....
(And I have an iPad 2). But thats ok, I went back to iOS 8.4.1, as iOS 9 was too slow and the new multitasking + the lack of quick contacts was annoying.
Seems like they didn't quite know where to stick those contacts originally and put them in multitasking where it was an odd place to have them. It only lasted for one iOS version and likely wasn't used by many for them to decide that it probably wasn't the place for them to begin with. That said, no one really knows. The mere redesign of that screen could have been behind that change. Of course some probably found it useful, so having the option to still use them there in some fashion would be nice.The worst part of that is I use the old multitasking for say writing an essay, i keep a screen shot of the content or whatever I need for it open in photos, and I just double tap and its the next app open, so I can see what i need, then go back into pages. Also if you have an A5 device, they removed the quick contacts from multitasking, and they haven't been put back anywhere
iOS 6 definitely sped up my 3GS
And I remember it sped up the 4 a bit in terms of alleviating jitter introduced in iOS 5.It would be, especially for the iPad 2
It was an odd place to have them, and I doubt many people used it...
I'm not projecting anything and insofar as you started your post with "and maybe you and a few other people" gets the same type of "harsh treatment" as been very common in this thread. Personally I couldn't care about dings thrown around Internet forum. But since we're discussing people's experiences me and a few others threw in their experiences. Really I would like nothing more for everybody to be in nirvana with their Idevices but reality in today's environment of mass produced devices seems to mean anything but.
And people's perceptions as you say are different with no one being in the position of dictating that they are right and you are wrong. Anyway seems to be off-topic at this point.
They are more pragmatic and realistic than anything else (and at least offset the unnecessarily sensationalistic hyperbole ones about devices being essentially decimated by the update, in so many words).I think part of the issue is your replies tend to come across as being a bit complacent.
Okaaaaaayyyyy.... sorry, not seeing how 3D Touch and the Task Switcher are linked ...... am I missing something?
Exactly. We have a 6S in house and 3D touch is such a hit and miss that it is pointless. Sometimes it works, most of the time it doesn't. I also fail to see it's use in multitasking.
Mr. Skika please explain.
You can trigger the multitasking menu with a hard press on the 6S (+) in left area of the display and thereby easily switch to the last used app. With the old menu you would have to move your thumb to the other side of the screen. So maybe this is a hard press version of the slight to go back gesture. But they could have also used the right side and the old switcher.
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Probably in relation to being able to invoke multitasking by pressing/sliding at the left edge of the screen using 3D Touch. In the sense that the new design fits in better with that dynamic vs the previous design.
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