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Radon87000

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No way around it.Air 2 has been crapped on in this update.app switcher seems to be running at 20 fps
 

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itsJoeClark

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Well, just updated to the final version of iOS 9.1 and, to my actual surprise, not much has changed lag-wise.
Yep, some stuff has gotten better (the app switcher for example, although, try swiping all the way to the back with a lot of apps open and then pressing the home button. SLOPPY).

I suppose us iPhone 6 users are going to have to live with lag on a very expensive, one year old device. If you think about it it's actually a disgrace.

P.S. please don't reply to my post saying I'm wrong and that you don't experience lag or whatever, because as per my previous posts, you're wrong.
 

C DM

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Well, just updated to the final version of iOS 9.1 and, to my actual surprise, not much has changed lag-wise.
Yep, some stuff has gotten better (the app switcher for example, although, try swiping all the way to the back with a lot of apps open and then pressing the home button. SLOPPY).

I suppose us iPhone 6 users are going to have to live with lag on a very expensive, one year old device. If you think about it it's actually a disgrace.

P.S. please don't reply to my post saying I'm wrong and that you don't experience lag or whatever, because as per my previous posts, you're wrong.
Ah, yes, if you don't agree or simply have a different experience then you are just wrong. That's the approach to discussions.
 

itsJoeClark

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Ah, yes, if you don't agree or simply have a different experience then you are just wrong. That's the approach to discussions.

Yuuuuup. I'm not getting into this again. If you don't experience lag, you either don't notice or don't care. One or the other.

WHAT IS up for discussion is whether the lag is important, whether it makes a difference to the experience. What is NOT up for discussion or debate is the existence of the lag. Discussing whether it exists is as sensical as discussing whether the sky is blue in summer. It DOES, repeat

D-O-E-S

exist. No debate.
 

C DM

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Yuuuuup. I'm not getting into this again. If you don't experience lag, you either don't notice or don't care. One or the other.

WHAT IS up for discussion is whether the lag is important, whether it makes a difference to the experience. What is NOT up for discussion or debate is the existence of the lag. Discussing whether it exists is as sensical as discussing whether the sky is blue in summer. It DOES, repeat

D-O-E-S

exist. No debate.
Could the degree of issues be different for different people? Perhaps someone experiencing more of a noticeable lag across the board or in some places vs. someone else experiencing less of a lag perhaps in general? Could some people experience noticeable delays in launching an app or perhaps even a black screen that comes up when an app is launched vs. someone else not seeing a noticeable delay or any black screen or anything like that?
 

itsJoeClark

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Could the degree of issues be different for different people? Perhaps someone experiencing more of a noticeable lag across the board or in some places vs. someone else experiencing less of a lag perhaps in general? Could some people experience noticeable delays in launching an app or perhaps even a black screen that comes up when an app is launched vs. someone else not seeing a noticeable delay or any black screen or anything like that?

The degree of lag felt by different people isn't really of interest to me. Yeah sure, someone who uses a huge variety of apps on their phone all the time will see lag more than other people who use their phone very minimally. But what that doesn't change is the fact that the lag exists. That's what I'm interested in.
 

C DM

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The degree of lag felt by different people isn't really of interest to me. Yeah sure, someone who uses a huge variety of apps on their phone all the time will see lag more than other people who use their phone very minimally. But what that doesn't change is the fact that the lag exists. That's what I'm interested in.
That's not the degree I'm talking about. I'm talking about a difference in the actual lag/delays themselves. Not noticing the same lag more often vs. less often or something like that, but actually seeing a longer more noticeable lag vs. potentially having a smaller less noticeable one (in addition to seeing actual delays in opening an app or seeing a black screen when an app is opened vs. not actually seeing any of that).
 

scjr

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P.S. please don't reply to my post saying I'm wrong and that you don't experience lag or whatever, because as per my previous posts, you're wrong.

It does exist, but it isn't as bad as you make it out to be and it certainly doesn't make iOS 9 unusable.

iOS 9, imo, is more stable than iOS 8 and especially when it comes to Safari.

Even Joe Clark allowed his students to express themselves. :D
 

itsJoeClark

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It does exist, but it isn't as bad as you make it out to be and it certainly doesn't make iOS 9 unusable.

iOS 9, imo, is more stable than iOS 8 and especially when it comes to Safari.

Even Joe Clark allowed his students to express themselves. :D


Please tell me where I've said it makes iOS 9 unusable? And it is as bad as I'm making it out to be, for me. It might not be for you, and that's fine, but in my opinion a one year old phone of this calibre should NOT be displaying any lag AT ALL, let alone to this degree.

And great, that's your opinion, but not once have I mentioned anything to do with stability, i'm talking about lag.

I'm not stopping anyone from expressing themselves, I just made a polite request to please not bombard me with BS about how the lag 'doesn't exist' when it objectively does.
 
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dk001

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You can trigger the multitasking menu with a hard press on the 6S (+) in left area of the display and thereby easily switch to the last used app. With the old menu you would have to move your thumb to the other side of the screen. So maybe this is a hard press version of the slight to go back gesture. But they could have also used the right side and the old switcher.

Thanks.
But only from the home screen. I was unable to get this to work within an app. Fron within another app is where I would most likely use this feature.
So nothing once I am in the Task Switcher itself?
 

scjr

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I'm not stopping anyone from expressing themselves, I just made a polite request to please not bombard me with BS about how the lag 'doesn't exist' when it objectively does.

Bombard you with what? Haha! If you were that important, you would be bombarded with questions. Lighten up Francis.

Some people will not notice lag.

Some people will notice and not care.

Some people will notice it and care.

Pick one and relax. Lag isn't the end of the world. ;)
 

dk001

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It takes practice not quite like a right click, but it's real smooth once you get the hang of it. I personally like the double tap to get to multi-tasking but it's nice to have options.

Hang of it yes, but of what real use is it at this point? and how do I know that anything supports it unless I experiment?
I want an indicator that 3D Touch works here.
 

itsJoeClark

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Bombard you with what? Haha! If you were that important, you would be bombarded with questions. Lighten up Francis.

Some people will not notice lag.

Some people will notice and not care.

Some people will notice it and care.

Pick one and relax. Lag isn't the end of the world. ;)

Go look at some of the responses to my posts earlier in this thread. Then you'll get the memo.


You have literally just paraphrased what I've said. I KNOW. I am disputing people who SAY IT DOESNT EXIST BECAUSE THEY DONT NOTICE IT. That's all.

It is apologists like you who make owning Apple products worse for us all. "Lag isn't the end of the world". Yeah, maybe not on a $300 phone. But when you have a phone more than twice the price of that THATS when it becomes a problem. Okay?

You can either accept that, or not. Doesn't change the fact that it's true, and I'm right. :)

Toodles
 
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oldmacs

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I accidentally updated my iPhone 5 to iOS 9 and I fail to see how anyone could even perceive it as the same as 8.4.1 or faster.. Major Jitter + that obnoxious lag where you tap the app then it goes black and lags before opening it.

I have used about 30 or so devices on iOS 9 now, and not a single one of them has been faster than 8.4.1, I'm willing to accept that it is if others are experience, if people can prove it that iOS 9 is objectively the same or faster than iOS 8 (on a clean install).

Otherwise, its false advertising - the upgrade notes specifically suggest speed improvements, with no mention of devices which devices it will and won't work on.

And i don't get why this is the case. iOS 9 adds very little... and Apple supposedly spent the last year optimising it, so why is it not consistently faster?
 
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C DM

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I accidentally updated my iPhone 5 to iOS 9 and I fail to see how anyone could even perceive it as the same as 8.4.1 or faster.. Major Jitter + that obnoxious lag where you tap the app then it goes black and lags before opening it.

I have used about 30 or so devices on iOS 9 now, and not a single one of them has been faster than 8.4.1, I'm willing to accept that it is if others are experience, if people can prove it that iOS 9 is objectively the same or faster than iOS 8 (on a clean install).

Otherwise, its false advertising - the upgrade notes specifically suggest speed improvements, with no mention of devices which devices it will and won't work on.

And i don't get why this is the case. iOS 9 adds very little... and Apple supposedly spent the last year optimising it, so why is it not consistently faster?
Probably because many people don't have many of those experiences that some are coming across (like the black screen when opening apps), and the experiences that they do might not be to the same degree.
 

oldmacs

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Probably because many people don't have many of those experiences that some are coming across (like the black screen when opening apps), and the experiences that they do might not be to the same degree.

Why should a clean install on working hardware yield different results?

My iPhone 5 is about 3 months old, in perfect condition etc.

I don't have a black screen while opening apps, i have the app icon turn black and lag before opening. The same thing happens on my iPad Mini 2 and pretty much every single iOS 9 device I have used (besides the iPhone 6 and 6S and Air 2)

Was about to post a video of said lag, however my iPhone crashed again and it won't turn back. Notifications centre seems exceptionally buggy, and it was randomly bringing in notifications at a fast speed, then the screen went black....

I'm very willing to believe that iOS 9 is faster if I'm shown proof.
 
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scjr

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It is apologists like you who make owning Apple products worse for us all. "Lag isn't the end of the world"

I have that much pull? Haha!

Lag isn't the end of the world. It obviously annoys you to the point, that you have to question anyone posting they don't see lag. You want them to see your point of view and you just can't make them. That may be even more annoying than the lag itself, eh? ;)

Relax man. Life is too short to stress over a little lag. Enjoy your nice expensive phone and more importantly, stop blaming everyone else for your experience.
 
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C DM

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Why should a clean install on working hardware yield different results?

My iPhone 5 is about 3 months old, in perfect condition etc.

I don't have a black screen while opening apps, i have the app icon turn black and lag before opening. The same thing happens on my iPad Mini 2 and pretty much every single iOS 9 device I have used (besides the iPhone 6 and 6S and Air 2)

Was about to post a video of said lag, however my iPhone crashed again and it won't turn back. Notifications centre seems exceptionally buggy, and it was randomly bringing in notifications at a fast speed, then the screen went black....

I'm very willing to believe that iOS 9 is faster if I'm shown proof.
Why should or shouldn't...the reality is that different experiences can and do exist. Some "lag" is there for everyone but doesn't affect most, while other things are there for some and not others or at least to different degrees where it's really noticeable and perhaps bothersome in some cases but not so much for various others.

It's all been hashed and rehashed on page after page in this thread and various others so doesn't seem like it would be useful to go through it all again when all of that can simply be re-read if someone wanted to.
 

I7guy

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Gotta be in it to win it
Hang of it yes, but of what real use is it at this point? and how do I know that anything supports it unless I experiment?
I want an indicator that 3D Touch works here.
So far:
#1: trackpad
#2 peek and pop in email
#3 peek at links

Not everybody uses all technology: as @sunking101 if he uses touchid.

The problem is without a physical keyboard, some of this stuff becomes more difficult. I thought live photos was a gimmick also, but it's very cool for certain things.
 
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