So turns out iOS 9 is actually laggy

[dk001]

I have that much pull? Haha!

Lag isn't the end of the world. It obviously annoys you to the point, that you have to question anyone posting they don't see lag. You want them to see your point of view and you just can't make them. That may be even more annoying than the lag itself, eh?

Relax man. Life is too short to stress over a little lag. Enjoy your nice expensive phone and more importantly, stop blaming everyone else for your experience.

It's like that little defect in your nice new car / boat / appliance, a TV that changes channels 1 or 2 at a time randomly, an air conditioner that won't display the correct temp 100% of the time, the ... These things should be right from the get go.
Stress? Blame? No. Just folks becoming more and more dissatisfied with what iOS is evolving into.
This is just a way that some can express this and at the same time potentially let others know they are not alone.

 

[dk001]

So far:
#1: trackpad
#2 peek and pop in email
#3 peek at links

Not everybody uses all technology: as @sunking101 if he uses touchid.

The problem is without a physical keyboard, some of this stuff becomes more difficult. I thought live photos was a gimmick also, but it's very cool for certain things.

True. I guess I'm still looking for that one thing that triggers me to say "this is pretty cool".
Still looking. Just wish there was an indicator that says: this app has 3D Touch capable functionality.

 

[oldmacs]

Why should or shouldn't...the reality is that different experiences can and do exist. Some "lag" is there for everyone but doesn't affect most, while other things are there for some and not others or at least to different degrees where it's really noticeable and perhaps bothersome in some cases but not so much for various others.

It's all been hashed and rehashed on page after page in this thread and various others so doesn't seem like it would be useful to go through it all again when all of that can simply be re-read if someone wanted to.

My point is that not a single shred of evidence shows improved performance on any youtube video when people made comparisons. It all showed the opposite.

What proof does anyone have of what the majority think of performance anyway?

Whats to say that iOS 9 improved some people's iOS 8 installs making it faster for them, accounting for some people finding it faster? That doesn't mean the system is faster, as the only real judge of how fast an OS is, is if you remove as many variables as possible (clean install) and compare.

I'm perfectly happy to accept that for whatever stupid reason, different devices (on clean installs) perform differently with iOS 9, but there is no evidence anywhere so far to show that. Show me some and I will believe

Why should iOS 9 be slower on 3 of my devices when its advertised differently? I don't get it. I've tried every permutation of ota updates, clean installs, settings resets etc and my second iPad 2, iPad Mini 2 and iPhone 5 are all slower in terms of app opening time, scrolling, rendering animations, turning on and application responsiveness. I've tested empirically and that also shows slower performance.

Give me some empirical data of iOS 9 being faster than iOS 8 on any device, using a clean install of both and then I'll believe.

 

[philipyoungg]

My point is that not a single shred of evidence shows improved performance on any youtube video when people made comparisons. It all showed the opposite.

What proof does anyone have of what the majority think of performance anyway?

Whats to say that iOS 9 improved some people's iOS 8 installs making it faster for them, accounting for some people finding it faster? That doesn't mean the system is faster, as the only real judge of how fast an OS is, is if you remove as many variables as possible (clean install) and compare.

I'm perfectly happy to accept that for whatever stupid reason, different devices (on clean installs) perform differently with iOS 9, but there is no evidence anywhere so far to show that. Show me some and I will believe

Why should iOS 9 be slower on 3 of my devices when its advertised differently? I don't get it. I've tried every permutation of ota updates, clean installs, settings resets etc and my second iPad 2, iPad Mini 2 and iPhone 5 are all slower in terms of app opening time, scrolling, rendering animations, turning on and application responsiveness. I've tested empirically and that also shows slower performance.

Give me some empirical data of iOS 9 being faster than iOS 8 on any device, using a clean install of both and then I'll believe.

You don't need to spend your energy for arguing fact. If some people cant accept it, then that's their loss—not yours. I'm baffled that @C DM still defending Apple—while within 24 hours on different thread he already accepted the issue and changed his proposition to "it exist, now what?"

 

[oldmacs]

I have that much pull? Haha!

Lag isn't the end of the world. It obviously annoys you to the point, that you have to question anyone posting they don't see lag. You want them to see your point of view and you just can't make them. That may be even more annoying than the lag itself, eh?

Relax man. Life is too short to stress over a little lag. Enjoy your nice expensive phone and more importantly, stop blaming everyone else for your experience.

I think the issue is that some of us find Apple's claim of iOS 9 being faster misleading. iOS devices cost a lot of money, and ending up with a slower device from an update that promises performance increases is a dodgy outcome for a premium device such as the iPhone. Lag is exceptionally annoying, when you're used to a lack of lag.

At this point, unless people can show me evidence otherwise, I think the lag is there for everyone and some don't notice it. The reason I say this is I'm yet to see any iOS 9 device (perhaps apart from the Air 2) performing better or the same as iOS 8 on the same hardware. I've seen countless youtube videos of slower performance but nothing indicating improvements of maintenance of speed. I have used countless devices on iOS 9 ranging from the iPad 2/3/4/air/air 2/iPhone 5/6 and I noticed lag on all of them. People don't just make lag up in their heads, its easy enough to perceive it not being there, but to make it up out of nowhere is a bit far fetched.

Anyways, you may be right maybe some devices or even the majority don't have any lag - but show me and others the evidence of say an iPad Mini 2 or an iPad Air that doesn't have lag and jitter, that is faster or the same speed as iOS 8.4.1.

 

[I7guy]

You don't need to spend your energy for arguing fact. If some people cant accept it, then that's their loss—not yours. I'm baffled that @C DM still defending Apple—while within 24 hours on different thread he already accepted the issue and changed his proposition to "it exist, now what?"

Maybe different people have different experiences? Safari is far and away better than IOS 9 and I spend most of my time in there on my iphone 6S. My ipad 2 on ios 9 there is no comparison with Safari. All this back-and-forth and no one will accept the others point of view no matter what. Bottom line, if you're not happy, than that is the way it is. If I'm happy, that is also the way it is. There is no "loss" as you put it.Seems this thread has already run it's course (but of course it's up to the mods) as it has devolved into discussing the posters and not the topic and hand.

 

[I7guy]

True. I guess I'm still looking for that one thing that triggers me to say "this is pretty cool".
Still looking. Just wish there was an indicator that says: this app has 3D Touch capable functionality.

You have a point. Maybe apple will figure out an app "badge" for 3D touch enabled apps.

 

[dk001]

Maybe different people have different experiences? Safari is far and away better than IOS 9 and I spend most of my time in there on my iphone 6S. My ipad 2 on ios 9 there is no comparison with Safari. All this back-and-forth and no one will accept the others point of view no matter what. Bottom line, if you're not happy, than that is the way it is. If I'm happy, that is also the way it is. There is no "loss" as you put it.

Safari .... it is better for me on 80% of the sites I visit. On the other 20% it is worse, a lot worse.
No clue why.

 

[philipyoungg]

Maybe different people have different experiences? Safari is far and away better than IOS 9 and I spend most of my time in there on my iphone 6S. My ipad 2 on ios 9 there is no comparison with Safari. All this back-and-forth and no one will accept the others point of view no matter what. Bottom line, if you're not happy, than that is the way it is. If I'm happy, that is also the way it is. There is no "loss" as you put it.Seems this thread has already run it's course (but of course it's up to the mods) as it has devolved into discussing the posters and not the topic and hand.

I agree, but we are not discussing Safari. We are discussing about the lag on metal devices.

Other than that, I'm sure you pointed out that you either reduce transparency or disable motion—which makes the UI smoother than it actually is.

 

[I7guy]

Safari .... it is better for me on 80% of the sites I visit. On the other 20% it is worse, a lot worse.
No clue why.

Macrumors is a good site to discuss on this one issue. On my ipad 2 under 8.4.1, got constant page reloads. On IOS 9 is still get the reloads but the frequency of them is way, way less. I can actually browse for a good while before I get a reload. Don't know why the reloads occur, but it is annoying.

 

[I7guy]

I agree, but we are not discussing Safari. We are discussing about the lag on metal devices.

5S and 6S, there is virtually no lag, the caveat is nobody in my family likes eye candy and turns that stuff off, which is probably the reason why. But this is our/my use case on the 64 bit iphones. Everybody's use case is different. edit: when I did turn it on the 5s as a quick test, all seemed more or less normal, all I wanted to see was the device not really usable...which was not the case.

 

[philipyoungg]

5S and 6S, there is virtually no lag, the caveat is nobody in my family likes eye candy and turns that stuff off, which is probably the reason why. But this is our/my use case on the 64 bit iphones. Everybody's use case is different.

Fair point.

While I don't have a fact about this, pretty sure those who complaining about lag doesn't turn on reduce motion and reduce transparency, hence lags that people are experiencing.

 

[dk001]

Macrumors is a good site to discuss on this one issue. On my ipad 2 under 8.4.1, got constant page reloads. On IOS 9 is still get the reloads but the frequency of them is way, way less. I can actually browse for a good while before I get a reload. Don't know why the reloads occur, but it is annoying.

Reloads are way down.
Some sites when I scroll down, fast or slow, will jump backup a portion of the page frequently.
Others, after browsing for a while will reload or the tab just closes.
Better overall but still ....

 

[oldmacs]

I agree, but we are not discussing Safari. We are discussing about the lag on metal devices.

Other than that, I'm sure you pointed out that you either reduce transparency or disable motion—which makes the UI smoother than it actually is.

The animation the stands out as the worst for me is the pull down to search one.. its so laggy on everything!!! I don't understand how Apple could stuff something up like that. It was nearly perfect in 8.4.1 - even on my iPad 2.

 

[Radon87000]

The animation the stands out as the worst for me is the pull down to search one.. its so laggy on everything!!! I don't understand how Apple could stuff something up like that. It was nearly perfect in 8.4.1 - even on my iPad 2.

That pull down animation stutters even on a Air 2 for freak sake.It looks like this issue is gonna take a whole year to fix and by that time iPhone 7 and Air 3 will be out.9.1 isn't any different from 9.0.2 and It's worse on my Air 2


On a side note,just got a look at the Nexus 6P and damn is it real smooth.Apple you had one job

 

[Radon87000]

I have that much pull? Haha!

Lag isn't the end of the world. It obviously annoys you to the point, that you have to question anyone posting they don't see lag. You want them to see your point of view and you just can't make them. That may be even more annoying than the lag itself, eh?

Relax man. Life is too short to stress over a little lag. Enjoy your nice expensive phone and more importantly, stop blaming everyone else for your experience.

It's a one year old phone,If iOS 9 is making this stutter this phone won't stand a chance on the future versions of iOS.

 

[scjr]

I think the issue is that some of us find Apple's claim of iOS 9 being faster misleading. iOS devices cost a lot of money, and ending up with a slower device from an update that promises performance increases is a dodgy outcome for a premium device such as the iPhone. Lag is exceptionally annoying, when you're used to a lack of lag.

At this point, unless people can show me evidence otherwise, I think the lag is there for everyone and some don't notice it. The reason I say this is I'm yet to see any iOS 9 device (perhaps apart from the Air 2) performing better or the same as iOS 8 on the same hardware. I've seen countless youtube videos of slower performance but nothing indicating improvements of maintenance of speed. I have used countless devices on iOS 9 ranging from the iPad 2/3/4/air/air 2/iPhone 5/6 and I noticed lag on all of them. People don't just make lag up in their heads, its easy enough to perceive it not being there, but to make it up out of nowhere is a bit far fetched.

Anyways, you may be right maybe some devices or even the majority don't have any lag - but show me and others the evidence of say an iPad Mini 2 or an iPad Air that doesn't have lag and jitter, that is faster or the same speed as iOS 8.4.1.

I've never said there wasn't any lag, but why question another individual's perception of lag? Is there really anything to gain from that?

Some see the lag clearly and some don't see it at all or it doesn't bother them enough to even care. It is, what it is. It's not a fanboy thing, if you don't see it. It's not an Apple apologist thing if you don't care, since your device is functioning as intended.

It would be great in this utopian Apple world we live in everything would be perfect with our devices, but they aren't perfect and never will be. They'll always be something to dissect, but that's the nature of the beast.

 

[scjr]

It's a one year old phone,If iOS 9 is making this stutter this phone won't stand a chance on the future versions of iOS.

It is and it's working great for me. You know why? Because the lag that's there hasn't crippled my phone or gets in the way of my tasks. Would I like it smooth as blue bonnet? Sure, but I'm not losing sleep over it. iOS 9 is doing me just fine. Way better than the crash fest iOS 8 was.

 

[C DM]

My point is that not a single shred of evidence shows improved performance on any youtube video when people made comparisons. It all showed the opposite.

What proof does anyone have of what the majority think of performance anyway?

Whats to say that iOS 9 improved some people's iOS 8 installs making it faster for them, accounting for some people finding it faster? That doesn't mean the system is faster, as the only real judge of how fast an OS is, is if you remove as many variables as possible (clean install) and compare.

I'm perfectly happy to accept that for whatever stupid reason, different devices (on clean installs) perform differently with iOS 9, but there is no evidence anywhere so far to show that. Show me some and I will believe

Why should iOS 9 be slower on 3 of my devices when its advertised differently? I don't get it. I've tried every permutation of ota updates, clean installs, settings resets etc and my second iPad 2, iPad Mini 2 and iPhone 5 are all slower in terms of app opening time, scrolling, rendering animations, turning on and application responsiveness. I've tested empirically and that also shows slower performance.

Give me some empirical data of iOS 9 being faster than iOS 8 on any device, using a clean install of both and then I'll believe.

And clearly that's not what I was talking about at all. But as usual (as I mentioned about hashing and rehashing) some people focus on what they want to talk about and how they feel what someone said applies to that instead of actually seeing what people are actually saying.

 

[C DM]

You don't need to spend your energy for arguing fact. If some people cant accept it, then that's their loss—not yours. I'm baffled that @C DM still defending Apple—while within 24 hours on different thread he already accepted the issue and changed his proposition to "it exist, now what?"

Ah, yes, another twisting of the facts. Somehow I'm defending Apple suddenly when that's not what I've been talking about at all. I mean if people are going to ignore what is being said the least they can do is at least not twist it into something else entirely.

 

[Radon87000]

It is and it's working great for me. You know why? Because the lag that's there hasn't crippled my phone or gets in the way of my tasks. Would I like it smooth as blue bonnet? Sure, but I'm not losing sleep over it. iOS 9 is doing me just fine. Way better than the crash fest iOS 8 was.

Yup it's not unusable by any means but now it just feels like a average phone.Its exactly like my Nexus 5 at this point and that thing costed me a quarter of the iPhone 6.Oh well I will just suck it up and try to bear with it till iPhone 7 but Apple iOS has lost the smoothness feature for me.No difference between it and a top quality Android at this point

 

[scjr]

Yup it's not unusable by any means but now it just feels like a average phone.Its exactly like my Nexus 5 at this point and that thing costed me a quarter of the iPhone 6.Oh well I will just suck it up and try to bear with it till iPhone 7

I respect your experience. I hope future releases fix the issues to your satisfaction.

 

[Radon87000]

Seems Zdnet just did an whole article yesterday on the lag for all the naysayers and this sums up my feelings correctly

http://www.zdnet.com/article/ios-9-bugs-are-making-me-eye-android/


"Do I use my iPhone a lot? Sure do. Do I love it? Absolutely. Am I in love with it? Well, I have to admit that since upgrading to iOS 9 the shine had definitely started to wear off"

 

[C DM]

Seems Zdnet just did an whole article yesterday on the lag for all the naysayers and this sums up my feelings correctly

http://www.zdnet.com/article/ios-9-bugs-are-making-me-eye-android/


"Do I use my iPhone a lot? Sure do. Do I love it? Absolutely. Am I in love with it? Well, I have to admit that since upgrading to iOS 9 the shine had definitely started to wear off"

An article doesn't mean that everything is the same for everyone and that everyone has issues that are impacting them to the degree that it does for others. There are issues, as there have been with all updates, and with all software out there, nothing new or surprising.

 

[Merkie]

An article doesn't mean that everything is the same for everyone and that everyone has issues that are impacting them to the degree that it does for others. There are issues, as there have been with all updates, and with all software out there, nothing new or surprising.

Everything is the same for everyone. All iPhones have the same hardware and run the same OS. The only variable is the people. Some people notice, others don't. No need to downplay this issue.