That's why there are so many posts about people having all kinds of different issues all time that most others aren't having? Because everything is exactly the same for everyone? The reality simply doesn't reconcile with that statement.
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So turns out iOS 9 is actually laggy
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ios 9 is one of the most ********* updates.Try streaming through Apple music while typing on keyboard in Safari.Lockup city.Apps seem to be flushed out of memory much faster than in 8.It really is annoying when I pause Apple music for some time to come back later to find it's flushed out.these are basic things which any normal Android phone can do 
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Depends on the issue ofcourse. Some bugs only show in specific use cases. For a lot of issues there are lots of variables. For UI performance, there are not so many variables, only the three that I listed. Every single iPhone 5s and 6 on iOS 9 drops frames and stutters more compared to 8.4.1. I don't understand why you're trying to downplay this issue. K great that some people don't notice or whatever, but I do.
But some can have more lag or more issues than others, right? (Clearly even with what you mention we already see that the same hardware and software can result in different issues for different people and it's not all exactly the same for everyone.)
Ofcourse there can be issues, but with a normal operating phone performance shouldn't vary (and it doesn't, every single iOS 9 iPhone 5s/6 stutters, even the 6s sometimes).
What is your point exactly?
Same point that I've made many times over, that aside from some people noticing some things more and some noticing them less, there can also be a difference as to what things people actually have and to what degree. Some might have more issues and/or same issues but to a larger degree and thus more noticeable than someone else that has similar issues but to a lesser degree. That those who have some obvious worse issues shouldn't be somehow outraged that not everyone else has them to the same degree necessarily.
Think about it.My device is a clean new iPhone flashed with the 2 gig firmware from Apple.Scientifically there is no way it should perform worse than any other iPhone 6.Hell even in case of two different chips from different manufacturers were used the margin was hardly 2%.There is simply no way the other devices have a lesser degree of issues than mine
And yet there are threads after threads of people having this issue or that issue even after clean restores that many others don't have. Forums are full of these things with any iOS or iPhone or other device versions. I mean how is that even in question?
Go look at some of the responses to my posts earlier in this thread. Then you'll get the memo.
You have literally just paraphrased what I've said. I KNOW. I am disputing people who SAY IT DOESNT EXIST BECAUSE THEY DONT NOTICE IT. That's all.
It is apologists like you who make owning Apple products worse for us all. "Lag isn't the end of the world". Yeah, maybe not on a $300 phone. But when you have a phone more than twice the price of that THATS when it becomes a problem. Okay?
You can either accept that, or not. Doesn't change the fact that it's true, and I'm right.
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You know what the definition of someone doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results is, right?
Please take a look at the Ars comparisons. And please don't tell me that YT videos are better objective evidence.
My point is that not a single shred of evidence shows improved performance on any youtube video when people made comparisons. It all showed the opposite.
What proof does anyone have of what the majority think of performance anyway?
Whats to say that iOS 9 improved some people's iOS 8 installs making it faster for them, accounting for some people finding it faster? That doesn't mean the system is faster, as the only real judge of how fast an OS is, is if you remove as many variables as possible (clean install) and compare.
I'm perfectly happy to accept that for whatever stupid reason, different devices (on clean installs) perform differently with iOS 9, but there is no evidence anywhere so far to show that. Show me some and I will believe
Why should iOS 9 be slower on 3 of my devices when its advertised differently? I don't get it. I've tried every permutation of ota updates, clean installs, settings resets etc and my second iPad 2, iPad Mini 2 and iPhone 5 are all slower in terms of app opening time, scrolling, rendering animations, turning on and application responsiveness. I've tested empirically and that also shows slower performance.
Give me some empirical data of iOS 9 being faster than iOS 8 on any device, using a clean install of both and then I'll believe.
Which benchmark are you talking about because in the ones I saw iOS 8 was ahead in majority areas.Please take a look at the Ars comparisons. And please don't tell me that YT videos are better objective evidence.
Where do they say that?Here are 2 benchmarks of 4S and iPad 2
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/09/ios-9-on-the-iphone-4s-a-stay-of-execution-nothing-more/
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/0...t-worse-than-ios-8-but-missing-many-features/
Ios 8 won 6 out of 7 on the 4S and 5 out of 7 on the iPad 2.
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Performance: Sometimes better, sometimes worse, mostly similar"
Somewhere in this mess of the thread I have posted one of the other tests they did.
My experience with iOS 9.0.1 on 3 different iPhone 5S devices (mine, wife's, and a friend's), after performing a clean install on all 3:
- Pulling down notification center -> constant stuttering (I hadn't installed any apps at this point), looks like around 20 to 30 fps as opposed to 60fps on 8.4.1
- Pulling up control center -> see above
- Random lags/stuttering throughout, e.g. Spotlight Search, app switcher, switching home screens
- Slower start up of apps, Whatsapp and LINE being the longest (several seconds of black screen).
I went back to iOS 8.4.1 (which was still being signed at the time) on all 3 devices and all the issues were gone.
Now I don't dare to say that everyone on iOS9 is affected by this, but my hypothesis is that most are affected and just don't notice it. I have seen the same discussion in many movie and game fps threads. Most people just aren't bugged by laggy camera pans in 24p movies or less than 60fps in games. I know that i belong to the rare species that is.
- Pulling down notification center -> constant stuttering (I hadn't installed any apps at this point), looks like around 20 to 30 fps as opposed to 60fps on 8.4.1
- Pulling up control center -> see above
- Random lags/stuttering throughout, e.g. Spotlight Search, app switcher, switching home screens
- Slower start up of apps, Whatsapp and LINE being the longest (several seconds of black screen).
I went back to iOS 8.4.1 (which was still being signed at the time) on all 3 devices and all the issues were gone.
Now I don't dare to say that everyone on iOS9 is affected by this, but my hypothesis is that most are affected and just don't notice it. I have seen the same discussion in many movie and game fps threads. Most people just aren't bugged by laggy camera pans in 24p movies or less than 60fps in games. I know that i belong to the rare species that is.
Everyone has the same or worse lag. Some other person with a freshly restored iPhone 6 is going to have less lag than someone else with a freshly restored iPhone 6.
Sure, all phones have lag you just can't see it. GOT IT: "you're noticing it wrong".
Ooh, a benchmark as in "artificial number shown on screen". Benchmarks have no connection to real life usage.
It seems there are improvements in some areas and regression in others. Overall 8.4 is smoother.
Heck my 6 on 8.4 is faster then the 6S at opening apps.
Heck my 6 on 8.4 is faster then the 6S at opening apps.
My definition for those is "eyesight idiot", they claim that everything above 25 fps is movement anyway and looks the same.
Exactly! Imagine a sandbox. (The iPhone) Everyone gets to play in the same sandbox. Now here come the kids! (The apps) Apple has very strict rules with how these kids can behave and play no matter how many come to play or what different combination of these kids (apps run) play.
It annoys me when I see the post "nobody's two iPhones are the same". Well actually if there isn't a hardware failure they are pretty much exactly the same and that's the way Apple wants them to be.
I'm so glad I'm still on 8.4.1.
I envy people who don't perceive the laggyness or unresponsiveness of the touch screen. Once you come from fast and fluid to choppy and clunky it's hard not to want to go back!
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