Nobody needs to prove it to you or anybody else. This is a discussion forum to discuss such things. If you aren't willing to discuss maybe you should reconsider. So please stop with the hyperbole. Thanks.
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So turns out iOS 9 is actually laggy
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I am starting to get very heavy lags on iPhone 6.Minor things like opening a dialer are choppy.Thats f*****g it.I am downgrading to 9.0.2 and hopefully save up cash for the Galaxy S7 as it launches in Feb or the Nexus.
The nonsense is to say that in face of years of threads with people having all kinds of issues that others clearly do not have.
My proof is that this is an iPhone with the same specs. What is different is people's perception of what lag is and how they interpret it.
This is not android where your going to have performance differences. An iPhone 6 works exactly the same as any other iPhone 6 no matter if its a clean install or not.
What has to really stop is this blind defense of apple, as if they can do no wrong. I have an Apple watch, iPad and iPhone and I can admit they are stumbling software (IOS) wise.
Just to be clear I'm talking about lag not other issues like app crashing or things of that nature.
Perhaps what actually needs to stop is people bickering others and accusing them of some sort of blind Apple defending when all they are saying is just not everyone necessarily has the same issues or to the same degree that others have. Some issues everyone has, others not so much. It has no relation to defending Apple or anything even remotely related to it, yet people keep on pointlessly bringing that up just to essentially try to attack someone even though it clearly has nothing to do with anything.
Yes, and even lag has a spectrum. There are stutters in some places that petty much everyone has, but then there are some long delays on opening apps or black screens coming up when an app is opened or various other things of that type that different people would bring up and either actually say or clearly imply that it's outrageous that others are not upset about them when not everyone has those issues or those issues to that degree.
I think your post shows the perceived issue.
- Is there lag?
- How severe is it?
- What is the perception of the lag?
Some are talking about #1 and #2.
Some are talking about #3.
Some are talking about them all.
Most of the "complainers" (I'll use the derogatory term: critical) are using #1 or #1 and #2.
You and others are talking about #3.
It seems that #1 is known, but there are differences in #2 and #3--it's not really just one or the other, both can have some play in them. Most people are accepting of #3 having a role, but it seems that quite a few can't seem to accept that #2 can have a similar role in it all as well.
RADON8700 has to be correct in order for any type of statistical or tested quality control to work.
You couldn't even develop a proper OS.
Take perception out of the equation.
Issue? Severity? Evaluate and address.
None of that changes anything about what I said.
Anyway, beating a dead horse hasn't been getting anywhere aside from the same things repeated. Point has been made, people can do what they want with it, but reality will remain reality and one that we all have to live in (whether or not we agree with it or wish for something else or think that something different should be happening).
Thing is that while you're talking about "reality", everything you "discuss" is meaningless drivel how we're all wrong.
While others who share the same disappointed experience are gathering possible causes and concluding from it.
As I said before : logical debate with arguments vs. blind "no you're all imagining it".
So, even if we're all wrong, why do you keep bringing it up ? Either prove we're are in fact wrong with posting a video proof of iOS9 running better vs. iOS8 on the same hardware, or kindly stop posting.
As is often the case, seems like you missed much of what I've been saying and out of what you got it seems like it was twisted into something else. Like I said, pointless going in circles when people will simply ignore things or twist them into somethings else.
So, where can we agree then ?
My statements are these, from top to bottom:
1) iOS9 brought stuttering performance to the UI for devices that support Metal.
2) iOS9 is the first release which replaced OpenGL with Metal.
3) iOS8 didn't have those issues and it also didn't have Metal.
4) Apple should fix the stuttering issues.
5) People have a right to demand the fix, since it degraded their device experience compared to the release before.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-actually-laggy.1916966/page-37#post-22126473 covers it fairly well.
As far as things needing to be better and people wanting a fix to issues they are experiencing, there's been no disagreement with anything related to that at all.
Exactly. You responses are firmly stuck in the perception zone.
Lag exists. Severity is tbd. Your perception and impact to your use is yours. Mine is mine. etc....
A tad of topic but my wife's 2011 macbook air is smoother and faster with El capitan, its like a new laptop.
So obliviously apple knows how to optimize.
So obliviously apple knows how to optimize.
I am severely disappointed that 9.1 didn't bring about any performance improvements to my 6+ as was to be expected. I hate that we've all grown to be weary of this issue with it still coming down to some people either not giving a **** or seeing anything. Apple needs to man up and realize that switching to Metal has been far less than optimal and get their **** together. I won't go as far to say that I'll be switching to Android anytime soon, but for the love of god, is it too much to expect that iOS return to it's smooth form that so prompted Google engineers to oversee "Project Butter" where they tried to get Android up to par performance-wise with iOS?
This'll be my last comment on the issue, just consider me in the camp of people who have a real distaste for the direction Apple is headed in if this sort of **** keeps up.
This'll be my last comment on the issue, just consider me in the camp of people who have a real distaste for the direction Apple is headed in if this sort of **** keeps up.
Lag exists. Perception and severity can differ. The actual lag can differ too, with some having more typical stuttering issues in some places, while others clearly having much more pronounced issues that others don't necessarily have or have to the same degree.
After downgrading the lag on my Air 2 sorted itself out somewhat.At least the huge frame drops are toned down albeit there.
I am sticking with 9.0.2 for now.Apple has until Feb to fix this or I am going the Nexus and Galaxy way,Too bad because IOS attracted me because of smoothness over android and now that's no longer the case .Not to mention the Android screens on Nexus 6P are gorgeous
I am sticking with 9.0.2 for now.Apple has until Feb to fix this or I am going the Nexus and Galaxy way,Too bad because IOS attracted me because of smoothness over android and now that's no longer the case .Not to mention the Android screens on Nexus 6P are gorgeous
Don't do it.You will regret it.9.1 is worse than 9.0.2 on both my Air 2 and 6.Funnily enough my iPad Mini 1 seems faster though
You need to be more scientific in analyzing this:
What type of iPhone?
What version of IOS are you running:
What carrier?
How much memory do you have on your phone?
How much memory is free?
Where are you spotting lag?
Pulling down to spotlight?
Do you always experience lag or only sometimes?
What about Task switcher?
Do you always experience lag or only sometimes?
Bringing up camera?
Do you always experience lag or only sometimes?
If you approach it like that it will be more systematically attacked. I found when I first went to IOS 9.10 the task switcher initially lagged but didn't after the first test.
It's better than 9.10b5 for me, but only by a little.
It's definitely better than 9.02.
What type of iPhone?
What version of IOS are you running:
What carrier?
How much memory do you have on your phone?
How much memory is free?
Where are you spotting lag?
Pulling down to spotlight?
Do you always experience lag or only sometimes?
What about Task switcher?
Do you always experience lag or only sometimes?
Bringing up camera?
Do you always experience lag or only sometimes?
If you approach it like that it will be more systematically attacked. I found when I first went to IOS 9.10 the task switcher initially lagged but didn't after the first test.
It's better than 9.10b5 for me, but only by a little.
It's definitely better than 9.02.
Since I first commenting here a week ago, one common problem have raised: some people argue like religious people, some argue with methodical ways, some argue with feeling, some argue like an atheist.
Fact: iOS 9 is slower than iOS 8. That's a fact. Fact. Fact, not feeling.
Once more, fact.
I honestly don't understand why "religious" and "feeling" guys keep refuting the fact.
To make things simple, I suggest people just stop arguing. It won't make a dent or change their way of thinking. People believe what they want to believe, and that's a fact (irony).
Fact: iOS 9 is slower than iOS 8. That's a fact. Fact. Fact, not feeling.
Once more, fact.
I honestly don't understand why "religious" and "feeling" guys keep refuting the fact.
To make things simple, I suggest people just stop arguing. It won't make a dent or change their way of thinking. People believe what they want to believe, and that's a fact (irony).
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