Part of it is that not everyone by far who is not complaining is commenting about there not being any stutter or that others aren't having issues, some are just commenting about a realistic take on the issues (although a lot of times that line of discussion seems to get misinterpreted as an attack on those experiencing lag and gets pigeonholed into some category that it's really not even talking about).
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So turns out iOS 9 is actually laggy
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Download IOS 9.1 for both my iPhone and iPad and don't see a difference. Lag still there. I think this is absurd. What makes this whole lagfest ridiculous is that Apple promise that Metal would make this a "magical", smooth experience, and right now, I'm getting the opposite of that.
How many posts do you need to say your device is laggy? One. Since you can't fix it might as well just move on right? No discussion needed. Maybe 2 posts for the three trouble-shooting steps, the three "R"s. Reset, restore and return.
I have an iPhone 4S. Skipped 9.0, went for 9.1. Switched off everything but assisted typing (reduce motion, reduce transparency or whatever it's called and cut down the animations).
It's definitely slower than 8.4.1. I have the feeling that even Siri talks slower (well, at least the speech-output of Strava seems to be slower, which has its own kind of irony, if you think about it).
But I'm not complaining. It's a four year old phone (I just bought it in 2012, not 2011, shortly before the 5 arrived).
iPhone 6S' GPU is what 10 or 20 times faster than that? Of course it's slow.
I'm glad I actually get updates for my phone.
It's definitely slower than 8.4.1. I have the feeling that even Siri talks slower (well, at least the speech-output of Strava seems to be slower, which has its own kind of irony, if you think about it).
But I'm not complaining. It's a four year old phone (I just bought it in 2012, not 2011, shortly before the 5 arrived).
iPhone 6S' GPU is what 10 or 20 times faster than that? Of course it's slow.
I'm glad I actually get updates for my phone.
Then that's a joke! I hate you now.
Sorry! Yeah, it occurred to me that those who aren't happy with iOS 9 might actually wind up with the very worst of both worlds, if Congress passes the wrong bills (which would certainly get signed by this president, whose views on constitutional rights are, well, skip that, I'll get into trouble): you'd get all the lag and none of the privacy, an absolutely hideous combination, I would think.
The more I think about it I think metal is more for apps. Google maps for example is a good amount smoother then before. Safari to me is better also. So I think it's a hit and miss. Some things are better and some things are worse.
That's the biggest mystery. El Capitan runs like a dream older hardware and apple clearly pays more attention to the iphone/iPad line which brings far more revenue . Wonder why there unable to bring the claimed performance boosts to iOS devices however .With El Capitan they had to support far more devices than with iOS 9. Yet there are performance issues with last years devices on iOS 9 but most people find El Capitan smooth and even speeding up their older computers from five years back
How many posts do you need to say your device is laggy? One. Since you can't fix it might as well just move on right? No discussion needed. Maybe 2 posts for the three trouble-shooting steps, the three "R"s. Reset, restore and return.
funny how I knew you and cdm would reply to and quote my post when I was writing it.
Isn't this a discussion forum, where we discuss such matters?
Lol and like one can trend those who post complaints about lag, one can also trend those who are quick to counter any post that mentions lag or slowness. It's almost always the same people.
Definitely seems better now with 9.1. Maybe 9.2 will completely fix things.
I'm still a bit torn wether to return the iPad Air 2 for a Pixel C before the 14 day window expires but the update definitely has helped Apple's case (being a step in the right direction, despite the bugs that do persist) and is making that decision harder...
I'm still a bit torn wether to return the iPad Air 2 for a Pixel C before the 14 day window expires but the update definitely has helped Apple's case (being a step in the right direction, despite the bugs that do persist) and is making that decision harder...
As others knew you would reply to certain other posts. What else is new or strange about any of that?
If you haven't experienced 8.4.1'on Air 2 you don't know the beast that it really was at one point of time.Zero lags and Instantaneous response.pretty Sure the Pixel C will be smoother than current Air 2
Agreed.I use Chrome on both my iadvices and because of Apple restrictions they always used an older rendering engine than Safari and they were stuttery on iOS 8 but on iOS 9 it's been silky smooth
Chrome still takes longer to open than a Moto G does on iOS 9 which wasn't the case on 8.4.1
A bit too early to say, but one or the minor glitches aside, seems ok-ish here too. Actually, what stutters the most for me is tapatalk, but I suspect it's a problem with that particular app itself.
I wish I could be super-confident it would always be like this. There's a certain amount of anxiety associated with updates these days that rather takes the fun out it.
I can understand your frustration. Because I've been there... numerous times.
I own and still use an iPad 1, 2, 4, and Air 2 (as well as various iPhones and iPod Touches). All have run on a variety of versions of iOS over the years. I am fully aware of what lag is, when it is present, and when it is absent.
I was experiencing a slight lag with 9.0.2 on my Air 2. I upgraded to 9.1. That lag is gone for me. Period. It's not that "it exists but I tolerate it", or "I can't detect it". It is buttery smooth. There have only been a few times in all of these years owning iPads where lag was completely absent. The last time for me was on the iPad 4 running iOS 6.1.
Sorry, but when you claim that the iPhone 4S ran iOS 7 decently and better than the iPhone 6 runs iOS 9 you lose all credibility. For someone who is so keenly atune to lag in IOS to claim that iOS 7 ran decently on the iPhone 4S is quite humorous.
And you lose all credibility when you say that iOS 9 on your iPad Air 2 is "buttery smooth". BUTTERY SMOOTH?! Lol god all I can do is laugh at this point. iOS hasn't been buttery smooth on any device since iOS 7, p-e-r-i-o-d. PERIOD!
I find it just so astonishing how you can say something as objectively untrue as that. iOS 9 is slightly lagging even on the iPhone 6s Plus!
& yeah, I must agree that what I said about iOS 7 on the 4s was an exaggeration. But it still ran decently considering the device was over two years old. iOS 9 is running on an iPhone 6 like the device is two years old.
Other than what I have said before I really don't know what else to say, lol. Lag in iOS 9 exists, objectively, without a doubt in the world. If you say there isn't, you're wrong. No other ways about it.
If I'm not mistaken, we have all been referring to lag as animation frame-rates/stuttering and just general ickiness in the animations. I personally have not noticed any input lag if there is any.
Admitting that you exaggerate is a step in the right direction. Equating"ran decently" to "ran decently considering" is the type of thing you've been challenging others on... and you're doing the same thing.
And none of this negates the fact that my Air 2 experienced a slight lag with iOS 9.0.2 but none on 9.1.
Don't tell me what 'a step in the right direction' is. You don't know me.
And yeah, I did say that. The only time I challenge people is when they say 'THE LAG DOESNT EXIST' because they're wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. Like really, really wrong. Do you get the memo?
If someone told me that they are okay with the lag and find the iPhone 6 performance good considering it's a year old, Id be 100% okay with that point of view (although I would vehemently disagree) because they rightly acknowledge that there is lag.
This debate comes down to two groups of people:
The people who are right (admit that lag exists)
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The people who are wrong (say lag doesn't exist)
That really is it. What your opinions are of lag and how it effects your experience is irrelevant here -- I just get slightly annoyed when people try (and fail) to assert that lag doesn't exist because, (just in case I haven't made myself clear already) it does.
It appears Joe Clark has a chip on his shoulder.
Relax Joe. My iPad Air 2 is buttery smooth as well. I'm enjoying it immensely.
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