So turns out iOS 9 is actually laggy

[scjr]

No iOS 8.4.1 did not run perfectly. Safari on my iPad 2 was barely useable. I'd rather have lag and stutter and useable safari. Thankfully with iOS 9 I don't have to choose .

Safari was intolerable on 8.4.1 (crash/reloads galore), plus the Apple Music lagged the whole system.

If you didn't use Safari or the Apple Music, it was smooth. Like you, I would rather have stability. Having said that, I'm glad they're working on performance in 9.2 b1.

 

[dk001]

I wonder if they need it to behave like this now because of 6S and force touch? I really liked how it was before. It slows me down so much more now having to wait. I know people say the animation is only a half second or what ever but the time adds up as you go from app to app.

Wish you could just turn the bloody animations off.

 

[Jayson A]

No iOS 8.4.1 did not run perfectly. Safari on my iPad 2 was barely useable. I'd rather have lag and stutter and useable safari. Thankfully with iOS 9 I don't have to choose .

He said it "ran" perfectly. He's talking about performance. He's right though iOS 8 never stuttered. It was very fluid and smooth all over.

 

[I7guy]

He said it "ran" perfectly. He's talking about performance. He's right though iOS 8 never stuttered. It was very fluid and smooth all over.

I'm not sure it "never" stuttered on "all" of my idevices (like I said my 6s didn't stutter and then there was the recents; duh); however talking about one metric "performance" without considering everything else, is similar to assessing how great your car is based on how many seconds it takes to start your car.

 

[scjr]

I'm not sure it "never" stuttered on "all" of my idevices (like I said my 6s didn't stutter and then there was the recents; duh); however talking about one metric "performance" without considering everything else, is similar to assessing how great your car is based on how many seconds it takes to start your car.

iOS 8.4.1 stuttered, when using Apple Music. Jayson knows that and it's the reason he upgraded to iOS 9. I have no idea why he's forgetting it did?

 

[C DM]

He said it "ran" perfectly. He's talking about performance. He's right though iOS 8 never stuttered. It was very fluid and smooth all over.

There were stutters in various places. One constant thing that various people would bring up is the stutter in Weather app that they would pick on with every update and how ridiculous it was that Apple didn't do anything about it.

iOS 8.4.1 stuttered, when using Apple Music. Jayson knows that and it's the reason he upgraded to iOS 9.

I have no idea why he's forgetting it did?

People sure do have selective memories and/or like to cherry-pick when it's convenient.

 

[Act3]

I don't think it's something that's considered normal use. Certainly something that never comes into play here. Having said that, they're testing and reporting what they're seeing. Maybe it will help with the overall fluidity of the system. Who knows?

Yes, not normal use I believe. The point is you can press the icon while animation haven't been finished with four finger gesture.

This type of behavior is consistent with 8.4.1.

I personally don't think that this is an issue, just noticing it accidentally yesterday.

Normal use is relative from person to person. And four finger gesture doesn't help the iPhone. What isn't normal is having to tap icons more than once for app to open. dont have that issue on my phone (8.4.1) but I do on my air 2 and the other two iPhone 6's in house that are running a version of iOS 9.

 

[scjr]

Normal use is relative from person to person. And four finger gesture doesn't help the iPhone.

I also mentioned, if it's being reported, it may help performance.

Tapping all over the iPhone like an octopus is not considered normal use, unless you're simply trying to find a bug. I've tried this myself and it isn't worth my time. Tap an icon mid-animation? Come on now.

But good for the beta tester who can find something like this, thinks it's important and reports it.

 

[Act3]

I also mentioned, if it's being reported, it may help performance.

Tapping all over the iPhone like an octopus is not considered normal use, unless you're simply trying to find a bug. I've tried this myself and it isn't worth my time. Tap an icon mid-animation? Come on now.

But good for the beta tester who can find something like this, thinks it's important and reports it.

I close the message app and sometimes immediately open safari all with one thumb. How is that being an octupus if I have to tap the icon twice to get safari to open ? It's everyday use for some.

 

[scjr]

I close the message app and sometimes immediately open safari all with one thumb. How is that being an octupus if I have to tap the icon twice to get safari to open ? It's everyday use for some.

You close the message app and immediately open Safari all with one thumb?

Regular motion no delay. Simultaneous motion a delay. I just can't do the simultaneous thing. Maybe with both thumbs? I have to say, you are definitely the man and the fastest thumb in the west!

 

[I7guy]

You close the message app and immediately open Safari all with one thumb?

Regular motion no delay. Simultaneous motion a delay. I just can't do the simultaneous thing. Maybe with both thumbs? I have to say, you are definitely the man and the fastest thumb in the west!

I can't use the phone that fast; it takes me a millisecond to ramp up. I also don't put the car in drive whilst still moving in reverse.

 

[Jayson A]

iOS 8.4.1 stuttered, when using Apple Music. Jayson knows that and it's the reason he upgraded to iOS 9. I have no idea why he's forgetting it did?

Yes I remember the Apple Music glitch, but it was easy to fix and I don't think 8.x was really ready for the new music app. However, at least we knew what was causing that hiccup. It was directly related to Music.app and how much you used it. Also, if there was some lag after closing Music, it was only for a second or 2. Once the lag stopped, the OS ran great, until you closed music app again.

I don't have a selective memory. 8.0-8.3 was smooth always and 8.4-8.4.1 was smooth if you didn't use Music.app. They seemed to have fixed the music app lag in 9, but everything lags randomly now instead of just that one app.

 

[scjr]

Yes I remember the Apple Music glitch, but it was easy to fix and I don't think 8.x was really ready for the new music app. However, at least we knew what was causing that hiccup. It was directly related to Music.app and how much you used it. Also, if there was some lag after closing Music, it was only for a second or 2. Once the lag stopped, the OS ran great, until you closed music app again.

I don't have a selective memory. 8.0-8.3 was smooth always and 8.4-8.4.1 was smooth if you didn't use Music.app. They seemed to have fixed the music app lag in 9, but everything lags randomly now instead of just that one app.

Easy fix, as in turning off and not using Apple Music (even though some wanted to use it, like yourself)? The same easy fix as, turning on reduce transparency to reduce lag?

8.4.1 was not perfect by any stretch. 9.2 b1 is running very well on my 6+ and is much more stable than any iteration of iOS 8.

If you base everything on fluidity, you'll always be disappointed. It's never going to be perfect, just like 8.4.1 was not.

 

[Act3]

You close the message app and immediately open Safari all with one thumb?

Regular motion no delay. Simultaneous motion a delay. I just can't do the simultaneous thing. Maybe with both thumbs? I have to say, you are definitely the man and the fastest thumb in the west!

I can't use the phone that fast; it takes me a millisecond to ramp up. I also don't put the car in drive whilst still moving in reverse.

Yep, really not very challenging to do both physically and mentally, especially when the Safari icon is sitting in the dock right above the home button. Maybe I worded it wrong , minimize the message app using home button and then immediately hit the safari icon. Not sure what you were trying to compare using the car analogy but I don't do that either. I do however, sometimes hit the gas after hitting brake pedal and car immediately accelerates.

 

[scjr]

Yep, really not very challenging to do both physically and mentally, especially when the Safari icon is sitting in the dock right above the home button. Maybe I worded it wrong , minimize the message app using home button and then immediately hit the safari icon.

I exit the message app and tap the Safari icon and it launches. We must be talking a quarter of a second here or even less?

I've never had to continually tap an icon to make it launch. In my world, trying to simultaneously tap an app icon on mid-animation is just not real world usage.

I guess there are folks who are this blazing fast on their devices. I would venture to say this doesn't represent most users.

 

[Cakefish]

Not to mention that on iPad, you need to be able to predict where the icon will be rather than tap where it is in mid-animation at that exact moment, else you miss the icon and thus, the app will not launch. It's ridiculously difficult to tap the icon I want before the animation has already completed; I just end up with a load of mistaps.

I suppose it's just an iPhone thing.

 

[Act3]

please delete this post.

 

[Act3]

Not to mention that on iPad, you need to be able to predict where the icon will be rather than tap where it is in mid-animation at that exact moment, else you miss the icon and thus, the app will not launch. It's ridiculously difficult to tap the icon I want before the animation has already completed; I just end up with a load of mistaps.

I suppose it's just an iPhone thing.

iPad has a dock as well and usually use two hands so same thing occurs with iPad. Another thing is i run with reduced motion on so its a bit easier to see icon position as fade ends.

 

[dk001]

I also mentioned, if it's being reported, it may help performance.

Tapping all over the iPhone like an octopus is not considered normal use, unless you're simply trying to find a bug. I've tried this myself and it isn't worth my time. Tap an icon mid-animation? Come on now.

But good for the beta tester who can find something like this, thinks it's important and reports it.

Not average normal use maybe. If anything work has shown me, someone somewhere somehow will run across the obscure and it will likely be a screamer. Several someones is an embarrassment.

 

[dk001]

You close the message app and immediately open Safari all with one thumb?

Regular motion no delay. Simultaneous motion a delay. I just can't do the simultaneous thing. Maybe with both thumbs? I have to say, you are definitely the man and the fastest thumb in the west!

Do it all the time. I'll have one app open, click close via Home and immediately click on the next icon - these are on the dock. Easy to replicate even under Reduced Motion.
Home click - pause - icon tap ..... animation wait

 

[C DM]

Do it all the time. I'll have one app open, click close via Home and immediately click on the next icon - these are on the dock. Easy to replicate even under Reduced Motion.
Home click - pause - icon tap ..... animation wait

I guess my muscle memory must have already adjusted from the iOS 7.0 days where I never tap in things that quickly anymore naturally.

 

[canesalato]

one of those would be me . It took until 8.4 to get ios8 stable, looks like the same deal with ios9.

Well, iOS8 was slow and unstable. 9 is solid, just a bit stuttery on some devices

 

[dk001]

I guess my muscle memory most have already adjusted from the iOS 7.0 days where I never tap in things that quickly anymore naturally.

Could be. Using a lot of different items, I find my use habits from one do not always translate cleanly to another.
It can be both amusing and irritating.

 

[dk001]

Well, iOS8 was slow and unstable. 9 is solid, just a bit stuttery on some devices

Opinions and Experience differs for different folks.
Glad yours is working out for you.

 

[canesalato]

Opinions and Experience differs for different folks.
Glad yours is working out for you.

Sorry, i didn't mean to underestimate the problems people are having! I have seen and reported many bugs myself. I'm just pointing out that 8.0 was very, very bad (healthkit getting wrong data. 8.0.1 breaking phone calls and touch id. iWork crashing, frequent resprings...freaking discoveryd breaking network connection and corrupting the router cache. This sort of stuff )