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Radon87000

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It just comes down to how hypersensitive you are to any kind of lag.

9.2 b1 is making headway in regards to tweaking fluidity. Even a couple of the folks, who are sensitive to lag, mentioned it was improving. Some won't recognize a thing, because they want it all fixed now.

On my 6+, the App Switcher is tons better. They are definitely working the fluidity issues that remain.

What I do find interesting. How can one person who's sensitive to lag see an improvement in 9.2 b1 and another sensitive to lag not see an improvement? Does that difference of opinion sound familiar? :)
But will it ever reach 8.4.1 standards where it NEVER lagged no matter how hard I tried
 

e93to

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For those complaining of lag and bugginess on an iOS9 upgrade, I would suggest that you take a look at a Note 4 upgraded to Lollipop.

GF has Note 4 with Lollipop. I use it often, and I notice no lag. But I've heard of cases where the update brings down Galaxies and HTC's.
 

scjr

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But will it ever reach 8.4.1 standards where it NEVER lagged no matter how hard I tried

You didn't open the music app. That lagged the whole system on 8.4.1.

They'll eventually smooth it out, just like they did iOS 8.
 
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Cakefish

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Do you think that iOS 9 is not a good experience on current iPads because they have designed it specifically for the iPad Pro? Is iOS so unoptimised that it requires a highly clocked, super powerful quad core CPU (A9X) to run efficiently? One that is more powerful than 80% of modern PCs? Is iOS so resource heavy that it could not run on 80% of modern PCs?

That's how it feels right now!
 

e93to

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You didn't open the music app. That lagged the whole system on 8.4.1.

They'll eventually smooth it out, just like they did iOS 8.

Music app does not lag on my 5S with 8.4.1. Probably because I don't have Apple Music turned on.

If we have to wait until iOS 9.4 to enjoy stable and smooth operation of our devices, then this is pretty bad. This gives us 3 months of such experience, and new update will come along to introduce new glitches and stutters.
 

trouble747

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Do you think that iOS 9 is not a good experience on current iPads because they have designed it specifically for the iPad Pro? Is iOS so unoptimised that it requires a highly clocked, super powerful quad core CPU (A9X) to run efficiently? One that is more powerful than 80% of modern PCs? Is iOS so resource heavy that it could not run on 80% of modern PCs?

That's how it feels right now!

Did you try a new install? I'm personally not experiencing any issues on my iPad air 2 (unlike my iPhone 6). Older iPads could be a different story...
 
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scjr

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Music app does not lag on my 5S with 8.4.1. Probably because I don't have Apple Music turned on.

If we have to wait until iOS 9.4 to enjoy stable and smooth operation of our devices, then this is pretty bad. This gives us 3 months of such experience, and new update will come along to introduce new glitches and stutters.

Correct. Apple Music on agged the system.

You waited until August for 8.4.1, right? They are on 9.2 b1 in October and working optimizations now. Patience grasshopper.
 
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scjr

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Do you think that iOS 9 is not a good experience on current iPads because they have designed it specifically for the iPad Pro? Is iOS so unoptimised that it requires a highly clocked, super powerful quad core CPU (A9X) to run efficiently? One that is more powerful than 80% of modern PCs? Is iOS so resource heavy that it could not run on 80% of modern PCs?

That's how it feels right now!
My iPad Air 2 is running great. Whatever you're experiencing, they work out eventually.
 

e93to

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Correct. Apple Music 0n lagged the system.

You waited until August for 8.4.1, right? They are on 9.2 b1 in October and working optimizations now. Patience grasshopper.

Pfft. Only 10 months away? I'll probably wake up one morning without realizing it's already August.

Actually my new 5S came with 8.2, which was extremely stable and smooth out of the box. Keeping 8.4.1 for now
 

Radon87000

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My iPad Air 2 is running great. Whatever you're experiencing, they work out eventually.
Be honest though The Air 2's monstrous blow away performance is not replicated on iOS 9.Earlier it was screaming fast.Now it's just fast
 

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But will it ever reach 8.4.1 standards where it NEVER lagged no matter how hard I tried
People were saying that about iOS 8 in its early stages comparing it to iOS 7.1.2...and now 8.4.1 is being used as a standard.
 
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scjr

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Be honest though The Air 2's monstrous blow away performance is not replicated on iOS 9.Earlier it was screaming fast.Now it's just fast

I'm always honest.

iOS 9, at this point, is not as smooth as 8.4.1. I've said as much here.

Is it as terrible as some are making it out to be? No. It's a more stable OS than iOS 8 ever was, in my opinion. It needs some work to smooth things out, yes. Since the App Switcher is much improved on my 6+ on 9.2 b1, I think they are working out those issues now.

I do not miss iOS 8 at all. It was buggy as heck on my 6+. I was going to trade my 6+, until I started using iOS 9. I have no reason to get rid of it now, because it finally is stable. All you have at this point is patience my friend.
 

Cakefish

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Did you try a new install? I'm personally not experiencing any issues on my iPad air 2 (unlike my iPhone 6). Older iPads could be a different story...
My iPad Air 2 is running great. Whatever you're experiencing, they work out eventually.
Be honest though The Air 2's monstrous blow away performance is not replicated on iOS 9.Earlier it was screaming fast.Now it's just fast

I am new to the Apple world and had heard all about Apple's legendary software optimisation and about how iOS is the most smooth OS ever and ran at 60fps at all times, no exceptions. Ever. How it makes Android, even pure Android on the Nexus devices, feel like a stuttery, laggy mess by comparison.

Currently, iOS 9 is not living up to that reputation on iPad Air 2. It's good, really quite good, but not as buttery smooth as reviews claimed it to be. The difference? It's now running iOS 9 instead of iOS 8 as it was when the device was reviewed by all the big tech sites. I blame iOS 9.

Has Apple only programmed iOS 9 for the A9X chip and left everything else behind? Do they not care about upholding their legendary reputation anymore?
 
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Jayson A

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iOS 9 is stable, I just wish they could figure out how to get metal running better than open-GL.

It's funny how whenever Apple fixes one thing, they neglect something else. Why did they go back to having us wait until the animation completely finished before taps are registered? They fixed that in iOS 7 (or early 8... I can't recall) but iOS 8.4 didn't force you to wait until the animation stopped before taping something else.
 
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Zaft

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iOS 9 is stable, I just wish they could figure out how to get metal running better than open-GL.

It's funny how whenever Apple fixes one thing, they neglect something else. Why did they go back to having us wait until the animation completely finished before taps are registered? They fixed that in iOS 7 (or early 8... I can't recall) but iOS 8.4 didn't force you to wait until the animation stopped before taping something else.
This is true, maybe apple will fix it in 9.2 final.
 

Narcaz

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People were saying that about iOS 8 in its early stages comparing it to iOS 7.1.2...and now 8.4.1 is being used as a standard.

It might be a bit difficult for him to compare the Air 2 to iOS 7.1.2, because it came with iOS 8 preinstalled. If my memory serves me right it was the sole device on iOS 8 with a really low number of complaints about performance, probably because the A8X was such a beast. Nevertheless i still think that 7.1.2 worked better on my rMini 2 than any iOS 8/9 version in terms of smoothness.

iOS 9 is stable, I just wish they could figure out how to get metal running better than open-GL.

It's funny how whenever Apple fixes one thing, they neglect something else. Why did they go back to having us wait until the animation completely finished before taps are registered? They fixed that in iOS 7 (or early 8... I can't recall) but iOS 8.4 didn't force you to wait until the animation stopped before taping something else.

They seem to constantly tweak this behavior, but AFAIK the basic concept responsivity is more or less the same since iOS 7, which brought the fundamental change of animations. I don't think iOS 8.4.1 was an exception. Prior versions like iOS 1-6 didn't throw away this kind of "in between input" (like scrolling before the settings apps is fully loaded).
 

Jayson A

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It might be a bit difficult for him to compare the Air 2 to iOS 7.1.2, because it came with iOS 8 preinstalled. If my memory serves me right it was the sole device on iOS 8 with a really low number of complaints about performance, probably because the A8X was such a beast. Nevertheless i still think that 7.1.2 worked better on my rMini 2 than any iOS 8/9 version in terms of smoothness.



They seem to constantly tweak this behavior, but AFAIK the basic concept responsivity is more or less the same since iOS 7, which brought the fundamental change of animations. I don't think iOS 8.4.1 was an exception. Prior versions like iOS 1-6 didn't throw away this kind of "in between input" (like scrolling before the settings apps is fully loaded).

In iOS 8, if you tapped an icon while the screen was still zooming out, it would immediately open that app after the animation was complete. Now, it ignores your input, so you end up having to tap multiple times until it's ready for you.
 

dk001

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I just would like Apple to come out and give us an honest answer on what change that came with 9 that had such a dramatic (minor to critical) on it's iOS lineup and when we can realistically look for a conclusive fix.

I know .... dreaming :rolleyes:
 

Narcaz

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In iOS 8, if you tapped an icon while the screen was still zooming out, it would immediately open that app after the animation was complete. Now, it ignores your input, so you end up having to tap multiple times until it's ready for you.

At least it is consistent now. ;)
 
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CTHarrryH

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Since many are experiencing performance problems and many are not - instead of people complaining it would be more helpful to describe what bad performers are running and what some of their settings are. Maybe this group, together, could figure out what is happening and why. That doesn't mean that Apple or some app vendor doesn't need to fix things but some complaining and some who are happy doesn't help fix things. Sharing information might.

I am running a 6S and not having problems. I don't run Facebook app (even the fixed one), have reduced transparency on and reduce motion on. I have almost nothing turned on for Spotlight search. Even though many say keeping apps in "background" doesn't hurt I only keep Safari, Mail running - I kill the other things after use. It may not take CPU cycles but it may have memory issues which will cause swaps which do take cycles. I only keep 1 tab open in Safari.

I don't have an Apple Watch



Others - particularly those with issues?
 

philipyoungg

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My device doesn't lag or stutter in general. If you are telling me all devices lag it's a matter of how intolerant you are, I'll agree to that.

I don't understand your motive to keep replying people with lag actually. You turned on reduce motion, which makes animation stutter/lag non existent.

What do you gain by telling everyone about this?
 
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imagineadam

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In iOS 8, if you tapped an icon while the screen was still zooming out, it would immediately open that app after the animation was complete. Now, it ignores your input, so you end up having to tap multiple times until it's ready for you.
I really hope they fix this! This is my number 1 biggest annoyance since jumping to iOS 9. They do let you tap an app card mid animation now again though! This was present in iOS 7 then gone again in the ios 8 days! Why do they keep messing with us?!

Everything else is fine. It is a titch slower launching apps but everything is more stable and safari is faster and holds tabs longer in ram. They finally gave it a higher priority.
 

philipyoungg

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I really hope they fix this! This is my number 1 biggest annoyance since jumping to iOS 9. They do let you tap an app card mid animation now again though! This was present in iOS 7 then gone again in the ios 8 days! Why do they keep messing with us?!

Everything else is fine. It is a titch slower launching apps but everything is more stable and safari is faster and holds tabs longer in ram. They finally gave it a higher priority.

Fixed on 9.2b1. I can even press app icon while on animation now!
 
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