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So turns out iOS 9 is actually laggy
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Here's the thing, people really, REALLY need to stop saying that they are experiencing lag and assuming that because they do everyone does and it's an iOS wide issue for all.
Rule#1: Never update before at least one month has passed so you know about all the problems bugs, lags, battery performance on your device, or wait for the x.1 update.
Rule#2: Generally, never update more than two major versions above the device you bought (Mac or iPhone) and it'll continue to run well, otherwise you'll consequently loose performance, battery and stability rather than your device getting better or even staying the same.
Rule#": This is Apple's planned obsolescence method. This is their main and most important scheme to entice you to buy and upgrade your device, it is illegal in Europe but Apple is not yet held accountable until reports and then suits follows, which will inevitably happen.
Rule#2: Generally, never update more than two major versions above the device you bought (Mac or iPhone) and it'll continue to run well, otherwise you'll consequently loose performance, battery and stability rather than your device getting better or even staying the same.
Rule#": This is Apple's planned obsolescence method. This is their main and most important scheme to entice you to buy and upgrade your device, it is illegal in Europe but Apple is not yet held accountable until reports and then suits follows, which will inevitably happen.
So, wait, how many people is it going to take to notice that recent iOS updates haven't been up to par before we realise that this is an iOS wide issue? If this was one person saying that iOS 9 was laggy your argument would stand, but a lot of people are saying it, and have been saying it pretty consistently about iOS since iOS 7. It must therefore be an issue. If people deny it or don't notice, Apple's quality control will continue to slip. iOS 9 should have little to NO complaints of slowness on one year old devices... period.
You should probably loosen that tin foil hat, it's restricting the blood flow to your brain.
I'm running the final GM now. It's much better than the initial GM release. Initial observations, I like it better than 9.1 beta 1. I look forward to your comparison of beta 2 vs this GM.
Thank you so much for your opinion and feedback!
You might not notice an issue, but an issue is there. Period.
(if there wasn't any issues, this thread and many others complaining about post-iOS 7 lag wouldn't exist).
5s here, clean install, pretty laggy. Ios 8.4 was much better. i like the new features though. Hope ios 9.1 fixes the lag
Ok, here you go. Is it useable? Of course. It just looks like a 4 year old device when it's only two years old. Hahaha.
What is par? Is it what Apple deems acceptable or is it some displeased person on a forum with perhaps unrealistic expectations?
The funniest thing that happens over and over is on here anyone who likes how it's performing and may not see extreme cases of severe lag, never claim their good experience is everyone's. But the majority of people who don't have a good experience seem to always claim what they see is absolute fact the entire OS is like that for all and that anyone who doesn't see it like they do is dumb, lying, ignorant to what lag is.
And your line about a lot of people are saying its bad. Same can be said for the other side. Since the release yesterday I'd say more have had a positive update than those who haven't.
Someone asked about iPhone 4s owners. I upgraded mine this morning. After about an hour of letting it settle in, I've done some eye ball benchmarks. To me, it launches apps a little faster and the screen is much faster at scrolling or going to home screen. But then, I have Background Apps Refresh off and also Reduce Motion ON.
But, I've haven't seen any distinctive lags, and my feeling so far, it might be faster, but at minimum it is at least the same.
Oh and BTW, I didn't upgrade through iTunes, I just accepted the download and let the phone upgrade itself. That might be a factor. But it's a good thing I was watching the markets and Fed meeting, on the 4s it took the better part of an hour after it said if I wanted to start the install (after download) for it to finish. I was thinking of rebooting but it's a good thing I didn't.
But, I've haven't seen any distinctive lags, and my feeling so far, it might be faster, but at minimum it is at least the same.
Oh and BTW, I didn't upgrade through iTunes, I just accepted the download and let the phone upgrade itself. That might be a factor. But it's a good thing I was watching the markets and Fed meeting, on the 4s it took the better part of an hour after it said if I wanted to start the install (after download) for it to finish. I was thinking of rebooting but it's a good thing I didn't.
Lol - no.
Par is no lag where there wasn't lag before. Among other things (like being stable), it's that simple. Really.
The reason we're so vocal is because people who don't notice it are perpetuating this myth that Apple can do no wrong. It is absolutely UNQUESTIONABLE that iOS 9 has lag where it shouldn't have. I don't care about iOS 9.1, or 9.2, or 9.3 etc. etc. The release out of the gate should be lag-free on devices only a year old. Devices, mind you, that cost upwards of £800/$1000.
I care about Apple because I rely on their products, as do many people. I actively remember iOS and even OS X (although to a lesser degree) being much more stable and lag free. If people don't realise that or notice that, okay, but it doesn't change the objective fact that iOS has gotten laggier since iOS 7.
I don't care if it sounds arrogant or whatever, but it is absolutely true -- iOS 9 IS LAGGY. Whether your experience has been seemingly perfect or not, it does not change that objective fact. The more we act as if this isn't an issue, the worse this is going to get.
Same here! I was nervous because I updated to iOS 8 last year and reverted it back to 7.1.2 before they closed the signing window because it was so slow. I stayed at 7.1.2 till yesterday, and the main reason I updated was for security reasons. I'm quite impressed with how quick iOS 9 is compared to 8, especially on what's considered to be the bastard stepchild of the iPad family.
Honestly when you said 15-20fps I was expecting it to be much much worse. That is almost unnoticeable, I see some fps loss in your video but it's not through the entire animation. Is it full 60fps? I wouldn't say so, at least not in the whole animation, but that is definitely not super choppy or 15fps as claimed to be.
It runs just like iOS 8.4.1 on my iPhone 4S.
By default iOS 9 has roughly the same demand on battery as iOS 8.4.1 (without low power mode).
Today I've been using low power mode all day and it seems like my battery is lasting for an eternity.
Updated my iPhone 6 Plus, my partners 6 Plus, iPad 3, iPad Air, and iPad Air 2...
None of my devices are experiencing the lag that other people are describing.
Realistically, this entire post is about people's perception, because of an assumed expectation. For example, what one person says is chronic lag, may be perceived as fine for another user. The variable here is people's expectations. Some feel their expectations have been met, others not.
Now, I'm not sitting here claiming that there's no bugs in the software, or that there may actually be lag in the iOS itself, but this topic is almost pointless, unless people are sharing tips on how to potentially fix/rollback etc.
my 2c.
None of my devices are experiencing the lag that other people are describing.
Realistically, this entire post is about people's perception, because of an assumed expectation. For example, what one person says is chronic lag, may be perceived as fine for another user. The variable here is people's expectations. Some feel their expectations have been met, others not.
Now, I'm not sitting here claiming that there's no bugs in the software, or that there may actually be lag in the iOS itself, but this topic is almost pointless, unless people are sharing tips on how to potentially fix/rollback etc.
my 2c.
My experience is similar to this.
The newer the device I use the better it seems. I'd venture a guess to say as the phones gets exponentially faster the lag gets exponentially less noticeable.
i love how people who don't know what lag is or what constant 60 fps is attack other fellow apple users as if they were some kind of android demons and defend apple from, ironically, the same apple users just like they are. priceless.
the lag is there (6 plus, iPad air, iPad air 2). if you can't see it or it's good enough for you it doesn't mean it's not there. end of story. there are countless videos showing that iOS 8.4.1 is FASTER and SMOOTHER.
the lag is there (6 plus, iPad air, iPad air 2). if you can't see it or it's good enough for you it doesn't mean it's not there. end of story. there are countless videos showing that iOS 8.4.1 is FASTER and SMOOTHER.
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I generally agree except that I will no longer go beyond the current major version of iOS that ships with the device. I've got an Air 2 arriving today... I'll need to give serious consideration before upgrading to 9.
If you haven't experienced increasing degradation of performance with each iOS update then I wouldn't expect you to agree. For those of us who have, we have reached a different conclusion.
The case for this being part of Apple's planned obsolescence has a bit more weight when one considers that Apple does not allow users to downgrade back to a previous version of iOS. That usually brings up explanations of the complexity of downgrading, fragmentation, etc. none of which are applicable.
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