But it seems there are also different degrees of this. Some people have it where it's actually noticeable or more noticeable, while others don't have it to that degree (and that's on top of some people not really noticing it one way or another and/or not really caring). That's the reality that seems to get ignored by those who do have noticeable lag.
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So turns out iOS 9 is actually laggy
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i have seen geek bench scores between 8.4.1 vs iOS 9 and the core score is slower on 9 then it is on 8.4.1
I just don't buy this. I don't buy that some people are having no problems with iOS 9 whatsoever. I find it impossible. They either don't notice the lag, or don't care.
Sure, if one person is using an iPhone that is full of messages, apps, and whatever, and another is using a fresh install with reduced motion and transparency, there might be some difference. But it does not change the fact that the lag exists when it shouldn't.
exactly. wasn't apple famous for iOS and OS X because of "no need to fresh install like windows" bla bla bla? even when the phone is full of stuff? some people don't see it. the plus had lag since its inception. i've tried countless of them and they were all the same. still, people here defend their pluses saying there are FLAWLESS just because THEY have a plus and they NEED reassurance.
it's not like we're bashing the pluses because we can't afford them or something like that. we own them, TOO. but some people think soberly, and some have the deepest of cognitive dissonance
I agree; I think the reassurance thing is part of the problem. A lot of people don't expect such lag from Apple and therefore don't like to be confronted with it. They don't like it when someone actively complains that they have spent £700 on a phone for it to lag after a year, because it forces them to accept that perhaps Apple have slipped. Which they have.
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Like I said, lag might exist, but it might be small enough and in less frequently used places that it's insignificant for someone to even notice or at least care. Lag exists in everything since iOS 7 realistically speaking, so it has been nothing new for a few years now. It should definitely be better, but as long as it doesn't impact someone then they are fine with it all--sure everyone would be even happier if the lag wasn't there, but as long as things aren't affecting what people do most of them are still just fine.
On my iPhone 6 iOS 9 is definitely overall and in the bigger picture quicker (more than just animations) than iOS 8 ever was. Does it and can it from time to time have a less than perfect animation? Yes, I notice it. But it's not everytime any specific animation happens. I've seen app launch or app close totally skip the animation altogether, but that's rare (maybe 1 in 20.)
That's the nature of all computers for whatever reason. Code won't always execute in a fraction of a millisecond no matter how good the specs are.
Comparing 1 day old software to 1-2 year old software isn't exactly good either. iOS 9 is far more complex than anything previous to it. (iOS 1-8) More features means more things running in the background.
THAT is a problem in itself. Being good enough or creating something good enough or being satisfied with something good enough shouldn't be good enough for anybody
It all already noticeably changed back with iOS 7, so at this point, the bar is already based on increased animation time and all of that, not on completely smooth and quick interactions.
And these complaints have been around since iOS 7 days...and here we are rehashing the same things year after year with each x.0 release.
no idea. i had the 4S so i expected iOS 7 to be less than perfect. i can only hope it wasn't like that on iPhone 5 or (worse) iPhone 5s.
iOS 9 lags/stutters a little on my 6+. Going between Apps there is some stuttering. Replying to texts while I'm in an app or safari (using the little pull down notification thing) lags, keyboard sometimes doesn't come up.
I haven't yet noticed this on my mini 4 though running iOS 9.
I haven't yet noticed this on my mini 4 though running iOS 9.
I get weird delay when opening apps now. The screen goes black for one second then the app loads. Never happened on iOS 8. The app switching and keyboard gets stuttery and search/spotlight is very laggy
It wasn't like that, but there was still more delays/lags than there were with iOS 6. So, again, degree plays a role. Of course the utopia is that it's all perfection, but that doesn't appear to be realistic, no matter how much we might want that.
I think the issue lies in complacency, though. Sure, right now some people are fine with lag here and there. If that's the case, I really feel like they should not come for those who are complaining and pointing out that lag exists. If you're fine, you're doing fine. No need to comment I don't think. Why? Because all complaining can do is improve the product, especially on an issue like speed. Why would someone attempt to silence or disprove somebody pointing out a clear flaw? As I said, all this complaining can possibly do is make the end product better for everyone.
Thats how I see it, anyway. Apple fanboys make the company worse, because they cannot admit when the company makes a mistake, and constantly make excuses for the company. Let's put this in perspective. Apple is a tech company whose number one priority is PROFIT, which is fine. However some people act as if Apple are some sort of charity who make products out of the kindness of their hearts, as if they hand them to us asking for nothing in return. Apple charge A LOT for their products, and the consumer should expect great service in return. If the consumer does not receive great service, they have a right to complain without being shutdown. People become way, way WAY to attached to a company where they feel personally offended if a product of the company is scrutinised.
I'll say it again: iOS 9 is laggy. Whether you do or do not experience it, notice it, or care about it, it exists. Absolutely point period blank. End of conversation. And Apple need to fix it.
Thats how I see it, anyway. Apple fanboys make the company worse, because they cannot admit when the company makes a mistake, and constantly make excuses for the company. Let's put this in perspective. Apple is a tech company whose number one priority is PROFIT, which is fine. However some people act as if Apple are some sort of charity who make products out of the kindness of their hearts, as if they hand them to us asking for nothing in return. Apple charge A LOT for their products, and the consumer should expect great service in return. If the consumer does not receive great service, they have a right to complain without being shutdown. People become way, way WAY to attached to a company where they feel personally offended if a product of the company is scrutinised.
I'll say it again: iOS 9 is laggy. Whether you do or do not experience it, notice it, or care about it, it exists. Absolutely point period blank. End of conversation. And Apple need to fix it.
Our family has a 6+, 6, 5s, iPad Air 2 and two iPad 4's. It's running great on all devices. I like it much better than 8.4.1, which lagged and had its glitches as well. I guess the experience is going to be different for everyone.
I'm very happy, but I understand those that are frustrated with their iOS 9 experience.
I'm very happy, but I understand those that are frustrated with their iOS 9 experience.
The bottom line is that the vast majority of iOS customers are average people who don't know and/or care about any of this. So no matter how many of us would be "up at arms" about these types of things, we represent such a tiny minority of a very small subgroup that it practically doesn't matter--there have been plenty of complaints ongoing from iOS 7 days, and as we can see, a few years later, same types of complaints continue, meaning that the complaining hasn't resulted in much beyond just discussions and venting.
and I simply don't believe you. no offense. if you care to make a video and prove your point - ok, but otherwise it's simply not the case. maybe it's great for you, but it isn't great by my standards.
The fact that you so vehemently excuse Apple is worrying to me, and reinforces my point. It is not the consumers problem that 'more features' = lag. Apple should devise a way to make more features work without sacrificing performance, again, ESPECIALLY on one year old devices.
iOS 9 is not 1 day old software. There have been betas since, what, June? And I do think it's fair to compare, because Apple expect you to update on day one, even to the point where if you do they REFUSE to let you downgrade. If Apple are going to take that approach, they should be damned sure that the release out of the gate has no lag where it didn't have before. I have no doubt that iOS 9.1 and 9.2 and so on will fix many of these issues. But I don't care about tomorrow, I care about today. Apple have released a laggy piece of software, which is visibly lagging on even the second most recent iOS devices you can buy at this moment in time.
Yeah I see what you mean, but our frustrations would be much louder if people didn't try to tell us that we're wrong because of some odd attachment they have to Apple.
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