So turns out iOS 9 is actually laggy

[coldjeanzzz]

No one is trying to tell you or anyone who experience stutters or lag is wrong. The only people who have been saying others are wrong are the people who do and say people who don't are.

iOS 7 had stutter in some areas, so did 8, so does 9. So do Android phones. So do full fledge computers. Animations are just eye candy. For the most part when one stutters it's still taking the same length of time (it's just showing fewer frames.) Nothing is every going to be perfect all the time unless animations are completely removed and boring.

As for your comment of me "excusing Apple" in another post. I'm not. I just realize a system on whatever current OS or from any brand will never be "omg 60fps 110% of the time and never even dip to 59fps." That's just unrealistic in every way.

The animations should run as smooth as they did on 8.4.1. It's not asking too much for that

And many people might see it but don't see that as anything to worry about it. It's not perfection, but it's much closer to being at least fine if not more than that, than being bad.

No one is asking for perfection, what would be nice is not seeing regression on high end devices only a year old. Sure Apple might fix this in time, but why is it even an issue? Shouldn't this sort of crap have been sorted out long ago in the beta versions?

 

[scjr]

and I simply don't believe you. no offense. if you care to make a video and prove your point - ok, but otherwise it's simply not the case. maybe it's great for you, but it isn't great by my standards.

No offense taken. I'm pleased with my iOS experience, you're not. We just see things differently. I hope one day Apple meets your standards.

 

[Act3]

So by the time Apple fine tunes iOS 9 to where it is smooth and fast like 8.4.1, we will be only a couple months from iOS 10 and same cycle will start over.

 

[C DM]

The animations should run as smooth as they did on 8.4.1. It's not asking too much for that

No one is asking for perfection, what would be nice is not seeing regression on high end devices only a year old. Sure Apple might fix this in time, but why is it even an issue? Shouldn't this sort of crap have been sorted out long ago in the beta versions?

Those animations didn't run as smoothly in iOS 8.0. And yes it should be sorted out earlier, but it isn't given how Apple and many other companies release things, it takes updates to the released x.0 version to sort out various things. Does it make it great or good, no, but, gain, that's the reality of it. We can argue how it should be better for those that care about it (as for many it's just fine), but as many previous threads about it will show is that all it will be is another old thread that will get rehashed in the future again.

 

[newellj]

Here's the thing, people really, REALLY need to stop saying that they are not experiencing lag. It's either you are and you don't mind/are lying about it, or you don't notice. It is unquestionable that iOS 9 is lagging on these devices and frankly it is inexcusable, especially on one year old iPhones and iPads. I love Apple and my iPhone, and wouldn't consider switching to any other platform. Having said that, Apple's quality control has been slipping FAST since iOS 7, and if we have people saying that it's fine when it isn't, Apple won't listen and nothing will change.

You're wrong, and lying about lag. If your iDevice is lagging, it's purely because you can't set up and use a smart phone or table. Where did this herd urge to label Apple products as trash and label other users as liars or handicapped come from?

 

[C DM]

So by the time Apple fine tunes iOS 9 to where it is smooth and fast like 8.4.1, we will be only a couple months from iOS 10 and same cycle will start over.

More or less. That's essentially the product cycle these days, not just from Apple but basically most companies/products.

 

[Jayson A]

It is possible that those who claim not to experience any lag truly don't. Not that they don't perceive it but that it simply isn't there. Although millions of iOS devices are manufactured with identical hardware specs, there can be variances in manufacturing tolerances that could cause iOS to behave differently. This is most evident when taking identical devices and freshly installing iOS on it only to have differing results.

Unfortunately, I'm not one of the fortunate ones. If there are some who report a lag with a particular combo then I can guarantee that I will experience it too.

That's a bunch of crap. Everyone's iPhone 6 will work exactly the same on the same OS on a fresh install. Same goes for everyone with a 5 or 5s.

Whether they see the lag or not is up to their perception and how sensitive they are to the issue.

I cannot test an iPhone 5 or 5s because I do not own either of them. So people who say it's perfect on their 5 or 5s could very well be telling the truth, but what I do know is iOS 8.4.1 was better on my iPhone 6 than iOS 9 and I've tried installing multiple times... some fresh, some upgrades and even tried resetting all settings (even tried 9.1 beta 1 and found it to be the same). It lagged on the beta and it lagged on the GM... and guess what, it lags on the final release as well.

It's not my particular configuration, it's the software. Stop trying to blame the hardware for the unoptimized mess that Apple put out.

Like I said before... just when I began to think 9.0 was perfectly smooth, I downgraded to 8.4.1 only to be blown away by how fluid ALL animations are and by how quickly it responds to any of my inputs.

 

[sbailey4]

What iphone are you running it on? I haven't noticed any lag on my iphone 5.

yeah, lol. iPhone 5 and no lag... have you seen a new iPhone recently, just to understand what "no lag" means?

Yeah Matthew that 1/4 of a second delay in some places it totally unacceptable for a phone. You must not be paying attention. Watch a little closer and don't blink. Its blatantly obvious.

 

[newellj]

The fact that you so vehemently excuse Apple is worrying to me, and reinforces my point. It is not the consumers problem that 'more features' = lag. Apple should devise a way to make more features work without sacrificing performance, again, ESPECIALLY on one year old devices.

iOS 9 is not 1 day old software. There have been betas since, what, June? And I do think it's fair to compare, because Apple expect you to update on day one, even to the point where if you do they REFUSE to let you downgrade. If Apple are going to take that approach, they should be damned sure that the release out of the gate has no lag where it didn't have before. I have no doubt that iOS 9.1 and 9.2 and so on will fix many of these issues. But I don't care about tomorrow, I care about today. Apple have released a laggy piece of software, which is visibly lagging on even the second most recent iOS devices you can buy at this moment in time.

The fact that you are so vehemently trash-talking other users and Apple hardware and software is worrying to me. I think you need to seek the help, say, from an Apple Genius. You have to start somewhere.

 

[mentaluproar]

It's fast as hell on my iPad Air 2. Multitasking is seamless. My iPhone 6 lags a little bit, but not enough to even annoy me. It will be gone in the next update, surely. My boyfriends 5s was similarly affected with UI lag. It's there, but hardly noticeable. It is very fast too. But he had to nuke it because his battery life went into a nose dive.

 

[newellj]

and I simply don't believe you. no offense. if you care to make a video and prove your point - ok, but otherwise it's simply not the case. maybe it's great for you, but it isn't great by my standards.

So, explain this to me, please? You don't believe him (in other words, he's lying), but he's not supposed to be offended?

 

[sbailey4]

On my 5S , control center animation is about 15-20 FPS and stutters. How does no one notice this stuff?!?!?!

How does one measure FPS on a 1/2 second load of control center is the bigger question?

 

[lagwagon]

iOS 6 had ZERO stutters on my iPhone 5. The same goes for iPhone 4 on iOS 4.
My iPhone 6 Plus had stutters in several places in iOS 8, and (performance and smoothness improvement improved) iOS 9 hasn't fixed it.

iOS 6 and iOS 4 of course appear to be smoother. They are old, way less complex/robust and not even on the same UI or use the same animations. That's almost like comparing (key word "almost") a Lite version of an app to a full fledge feature rich version.

I'm not denying the existence of less than perfect animations in anything iOS 7 to iOS 9. But in my own experience the OS as a whole (looking at more than just specific animations) has gotten quicker each time. Short of getting rid of animations completely, it's probably a far more complicated thing to solve. (While the OS is way different even Andriod 4 and 8 core processors with 3-4gb of ram can't power through 60fps at all times.) Or even some top end Intel i7 chips with top end NVidia cards can sometimes choke.

It's not an Apple only issue, it's an every company issue. Apple somehow gets held as "god" status and everything they produce is expected to be immaculate.

That expectation is whats disappointing people.

 

[deviant]

So, explain this to me, please? You don't believe him (in other words, he's lying), but he's not supposed to be offended?

because i specifically said why i don't believe him (i.e. it's good enough for him and he doesn't see lag or he doesn't care about it, which is fine by me) read my message a couple of times and maybe you'll understand. the guy replied "non taken". i fail to see how he doesn't have a problem with me, but you do. this is not a pro bono lawyers forum. get off of me.

 

[Tritto]

Same here! I was nervous because I updated to iOS 8 last year and reverted it back to 7.1.2 before they closed the signing window because it was so slow. I stayed at 7.1.2 till yesterday, and the main reason I updated was for security reasons. I'm quite impressed with how quick iOS 9 is compared to 8, especially on what's considered to be the bastard stepchild of the iPad family.

How does 9.0 compare to 7.1.2. Both my 5S and my iPad 4 are still on 7.1.2 and that will be the jump Ill have decide on making.

 

[lagwagon]

How does battery life compare between 9.0 public release and 8.4.1, at least as a general impression? The 9.0 PB gave me very poor battery life.

Doesn't seem any worse to me. (iPhone 6) Though for the most part my battery was pretty good all summer on beta. Most charges I got 8 hours on average for usage with about 24 on average for standby. The best I was able to reach was almost 10 hours usage and just over 48 hours standby. With of course times in the other direction with like 6-7 hours usage and not much more standby.

It really depends how long each session is that you have the screen on. Shorter bursts of usage over a longer time to accumulate 8+ hours usage will always get you longer life vs doing hour long sessions or more.

Im sure I read somewhere iOS 9 can go into a deeper state of standby using less power than what 8 or earlier can. (Not talking about low power mode) So longer times between sessions will also mean more often it can get to that deeper state.

 

[scjr]

So, explain this to me, please? You don't believe him (in other words, he's lying), but he's not supposed to be offended?

It's all good.

He's comparing my comments versus his experience. He wants zero lag. iOS 9 isn't perfect, but I do like it much better than iOS 8. Any minor lagging doesn't hinder me from using any of my devices. I hope Apple listens to him and others that want a smoother iOS experience. It will only benefit us all.

 

[sbailey4]

So, wait, how many people is it going to take to notice that recent iOS updates haven't been up to par before we realise that this is an iOS wide issue? If this was one person saying that iOS 9 was laggy your argument would stand, but a lot of people are saying it, and have been saying it pretty consistently about iOS since iOS 7. It must therefore be an issue. If people deny it or don't notice, Apple's quality control will continue to slip. iOS 9 should have little to NO complaints of slowness on one year old devices... period.

Perhaps that's the way its supposed to be if all the iOS7, and (10 or so) iOS 8,and now 9 updates have consistently been that way. Where does Apple say that when you tap the screen that EVERYTHING is instantaneous? Just curious. People are all in a wad because a phone may take 1/4 to 1/2 a second to do something different than what its currently doing. WTH? Really?

 

[C DM]

That's a bunch of crap. Everyone's iPhone 6 will work exactly the same on the same OS on a fresh install. Same goes for everyone with a 5 or 5s.

Whether they see the lag or not is up to their perception and how sensitive they are to the issue.

I cannot test an iPhone 5 or 5s because I do not own either of them. So people who say it's perfect on their 5 or 5s could very well be telling the truth, but what I do know is iOS 8.4.1 was better on my iPhone 6 than iOS 9 and I've tried installing multiple times... some fresh, some upgrades and even tried resetting all settings (even tried 9.1 beta 1 and found it to be the same). It lagged on the beta and it lagged on the GM... and guess what, it lags on the final release as well.

It's not my particular configuration, it's the software. Stop trying to blame the hardware for the unoptimized mess that Apple put out.

Like I said before... just when I began to think 9.0 was perfectly smooth, I downgraded to 8.4.1 only to be blown away by how fluid ALL animations are and by how quickly it responds to any of my inputs.

You'd probably be even more blown away by 7.1.2, and even more by 6.1.3, in particular when compared to a x.0 version.

 

[AdonisSMU]

I didn't experience this issue. It's actually faster in my case.

 

[tzohar]

That's a bunch of crap. Everyone's iPhone 6 will work exactly the same on the same OS on a fresh install. Same goes for everyone with a 5 or 5s.

Whether they see the lag or not is up to their perception and how sensitive they are to the issue.

I cannot test an iPhone 5 or 5s because I do not own either of them. So people who say it's perfect on their 5 or 5s could very well be telling the truth, but what I do know is iOS 8.4.1 was better on my iPhone 6 than iOS 9 and I've tried installing multiple times... some fresh, some upgrades and even tried resetting all settings (even tried 9.1 beta 1 and found it to be the same). It lagged on the beta and it lagged on the GM... and guess what, it lags on the final release as well.

It's not my particular configuration, it's the software. Stop trying to blame the hardware for the unoptimized mess that Apple put out.

Like I said before... just when I began to think 9.0 was perfectly smooth, I downgraded to 8.4.1 only to be blown away by how fluid ALL animations are and by how quickly it responds to any of my inputs.

Actually, you may find this hard to believe, but my iPhone 6+ on iOS 9 is experiencing terrible lag in the app switches. I might post a video at some point to show you, the animation stutters so terribly when scrolling between apps that it literally looks like a DVD that's skipping frames or a video game being run on a computer that doesn't have the specs to run it. It's so noticeable that when some of my friends saw it they immediately said it looks really weird.

Meanwhile, I've looked at 3 other iPhone my friends own. None of them had lag at all in the app switcher. I compared them side by side. Mine was stuttery, laggy and not as rsponsive, and theirs shows a smooth, clear animation going back and forth.

Meanwhile, my partner's 6+ has an identical issue on his app switcher. Same exact lag. But so far that's the only one I've seen that has the same issue as mine. I even went to the Apple Store today, where they had a 6+ I could look at with iOS 9 and it exhibited perfectly smooth animation in the app switcher.

Now the crazy part: I DFU restored my phone yesterday. Started it as totally new, no backup. The moment I got to the home screen and double clicked the home button I could tell the lag was STILL THERE. I let it go for 4 hours, loaded a few apps on it, set some settings. Restarted the phone. Left it alone for another hour. But the issue was still there. Even starting the phone as brand new on a DFU restore of iOS 9, my phone has a laggy app switcher whereas other people's iPhones (also 6+) don't.

Meanwhile my iPad Air 2 was flawless from the moment I updated. Go figure. I don't understand this issue at all and I hope they somehow fix it in a future update because my app switcher looks gross and is just not as responsive as it should be.

 

[C DM]

Actually, you may find this hard to believe, but my iPhone 6+ on iOS 9 is experiencing terrible lag in the app switches. I might post a video at some point to show you, the animation stutters so terribly when scrolling between apps that it literally looks like a DVD that's skipping frames or a video game being run on a computer that doesn't have the specs to run it. It's so noticeable that when some of my friends saw it they immediately said it looks really weird.

Meanwhile, I've looked at 3 other iPhone my friends own. None of them had lag at all in the app switcher. I compared them side by side. Mine was stuttery, laggy and not as rsponsive, and theirs shows a smooth, clear animation going back and forth.

Meanwhile, my partner's 6+ has an identical issue on his app switcher. Same exact lag. But so far that's the only one I've seen that has the same issue as mine. I even went to the Apple Store today, where they had a 6+ I could look at with iOS 9 and it exhibited perfectly smooth animation in the app switcher.

Now the crazy part: I DFU restored my phone yesterday. Started it as totally new, no backup. The moment I got to the home screen and double clicked the home button I could tell the lag was STILL THERE. I let it go for 4 hours, loaded a few apps on it, set some settings. Restarted the phone. Left it alone for another hour. But the issue was still there. Even starting the phone as brand new on a DFU restore of iOS 9, my phone has a laggy app switcher whereas other people's iPhones (also 6+) don't.

Meanwhile my iPad Air 2 was flawless from the moment I updated. Go figure. I don't understand this issue at all and I hope they somehow fix it in a future update because my app switcher looks gross and is just not as responsive as it should be.

And that's another actual example of some people having issues and others not really having them as well as of some people having one degree of issues and others having a lesser (or greater) degree of those types of issues. It's nice to theorize how everything should be either black or white, but the reality is that there a lot of shades of gray in-between.

 

[AdonisSMU]

Actually, you may find this hard to believe, but my iPhone 6+ on iOS 9 is experiencing terrible lag in the app switches. I might post a video at some point to show you, the animation stutters so terribly when scrolling between apps that it literally looks like a DVD that's skipping frames or a video game being run on a computer that doesn't have the specs to run it. It's so noticeable that when some of my friends saw it they immediately said it looks really weird.

Meanwhile, I've looked at 3 other iPhone my friends own. None of them had lag at all in the app switcher. I compared them side by side. Mine was stuttery, laggy and not as rsponsive, and theirs shows a smooth, clear animation going back and forth.

Meanwhile, my partner's 6+ has an identical issue on his app switcher. Same exact lag. But so far that's the only one I've seen that has the same issue as mine. I even went to the Apple Store today, where they had a 6+ I could look at with iOS 9 and it exhibited perfectly smooth animation in the app switcher.

Now the crazy part: I DFU restored my phone yesterday. Started it as totally new, no backup. The moment I got to the home screen and double clicked the home button I could tell the lag was STILL THERE. I let it go for 4 hours, loaded a few apps on it, set some settings. Restarted the phone. Left it alone for another hour. But the issue was still there. Even starting the phone as brand new on a DFU restore of iOS 9, my phone has a laggy app switcher whereas other people's iPhones (also 6+) don't.

Meanwhile my iPad Air 2 was flawless from the moment I updated. Go figure. I don't understand this issue at all and I hope they somehow fix it in a future update because my app switcher looks gross and is just not as responsive as it should be.

So basically we don't know why your iOS 9 install is defective.

 

[deviant]

Perhaps that's the way its supposed to be if all the iOS7, and (10 or so) iOS 8,and now 9 updates have consistently been that way. Where does Apple say that when you tap the screen that EVERYTHING is instantaneous? Just curious. People are all in a wad because a phone may take 1/4 to 1/2 a second to do something different than what its currently doing. WTH? Really?

it's not explicitly said . but when you get used to something a company does a certain way, you expect it to be not better, but at least the same. iOS 7+ animations are stupid. do any of you remember when you actually could switch an app or close/open an app and immediately scroll on the screen or press buttons? now you open/switch/close something and have to wait half a second because even though you think the animation finished, it did not. it's frustrating when you have to do something quickly, especially a repetitive thing you do many times a day.

here, refresh your memory. iOS THREE

P.S.
I'm already predicting apple apologists to say that it doesn't matter, not a big deal, who cares, it's better now etc.

 

[Sdahe]

After a while is smooth now in my iphone 6... Butter now