So turns out iOS 9 is actually laggy

[C DM]

it's not explicitly said . but when you get used to something a company does a certain way, you expect it to be not better, but at least the same. iOS 7+ animations are stupid. do any of you remember when you actually could switch an app or close/open an app and immediately scroll on the screen or press buttons? now you open/switch/close something and have to wait half a second because even though you think the animation finished, it did not. it's frustrating when you have to do something quickly, especially a repetitive thing you do many times a day.

here, refresh your memory. iOS THREE

P.S.
I'm already predicting apple apologists to say that it doesn't matter, not a big deal, who cares, it's better now etc.

Yup, pre iOS 7 interactions were faster and smoother. Unfortunately that changed with iOS 7, partly by design (longer animations that can't be interrupted), and partly because of some added complexity of how they started doing things in iOS--new design, more visual effects especially around transparencies and the like, and perhaps even more under the hood, especially as of iOS 8 with support for widgets and third party keyboards and extensions and the like. It'd be great if they would get back to those levels of interaction that were there before iOS 7, but so far that hasn't been the case. Perhaps with another redesign they might get to it again, perhaps not, if things keep getting more complex and expanded which can come at the cost of some other things.

 

[sbailey4]

That's fine, still don't buy it. There's no way two identical models of iPhone with exactly the same software will operate so differently where one will have easily demonstrable lag, and the other will not. Sure, there may be tiny immeasurable differences, but they wouldn't amount to something like this.

Really now? Have you read any other forum topics or tech blogs or articles before regarding technology? For instance, just recent. Some folks with iPhone 6 and iOS 9 cant run WhatsApp app and others with exact same device and iOS can. Its a crap shoot whether or not it will work. Purely based on the developer getting it updated to support iOS 9. So yes, identical devices with identical software CAN behave differently. Nothing new there. Not just Apple just ask Windows 10 insiders.

 

[tzohar]

So basically we don't know why your iOS 9 install is defective.

I did a DFU restore as new. Meaning, it erases the phone, pulls he OS down again from Apple's servers on iTunes, and reinstalls it on the erased phone as new. So it can't be a defective install.

It's also kinda silly to say it's a defective install, because I'm not the only person who has a laggy app switcher. Like I said, my partner has it too, as well as many other people on these forums. So literally some have it and some don't. We can't just decide that everyone who has it got a defective install. We're all using the same file.

Although hey, I'm at a loss for an answer, so if you're right, I at least can hope Apple patches it.

 

[FatPuppy]

How does one measure FPS on a 1/2 second load of control center is the bigger question?

His eyes are trained, maybe he s a gamer. In time, most people who play games can guess the FPS rate and he is right, CC is about 20 FPS onthe 5s with ios 9.

 

[deviant]

I did a DFU restore as new. Meaning, it erases the phone, pulls he OS down again from Apple's servers on iTunes, and reinstalls it on the erased phone as new. So it can't be a defective install.

It's also kinda silly to say it's a defective install, because I'm not the only person who has a laggy app switcher. Like I said, my partner has it too, as well as many other people on these forums. So literally some have it and some don't. We can't just decide that everyone who has it got a defective install. We're all using the same file.

Although hey, I'm at a loss for an answer, so if you're right, I at least can hope Apple patches it.

the only way to check it is to film it. people with no lags , please do post videos with no lags whatsoever.

 

[vertsix]

I downgraded back down to 8.4.1.

I gave iOS 9 a full day and it didn't get any better. Just as laggy as it was when I first installed it.

I knew it'd be this way, since it has been like this since the first beta of iOS 9 which I've tested. You may not believe me, but performance issues have not improved significantly since the first beta on the 5s. And trust me, I've tested them all.

I thought I could trust Apple in releasing an acceptable (not perfect) release in terms of performance and in bugs, but that wasn't the case. Never had a problem with software updates with Apple before until now on my 5s.

Such a shame. I'll enjoy the buttery-smooth and super-stable iOS 8.4.1 until iOS 9 is decently ready. I will miss out on a few features and improvements for now, but that's fine. What I need is a fast phone.

 

[TETENAL]

Heise made a scientific comparison between iOS 8 and 9.

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Geschwindigkeitsvergleich-iOS-8-gegen-iOS-9-2819992.html

iOS 9 is booting faster.

 

[vertsix]

Heise made a scientific comparison between iOS 8 and 9.

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Geschwindigkeitsvergleich-iOS-8-gegen-iOS-9-2819992.html

iOS 9 is booting faster.

Well yeah.

Doesn't mean it performs faster though.

 

[Surfheart]

From Apple's website:

Faster and more responsive.
The apps in iOS 9 now take advantage of Metal, making more efficient use of the CPU and GPU to deliver faster scrolling, smoother animation and better overall performance. Email, messages, web pages and PDFs render faster. And multitasking features on iPad feel fluid and natural.

What a bunch of lies.

 

[FatPuppy]

the only way to check it is to film it. people with no lags , please do post videos with no lags whatsoever.

Here is my mini 2 on 8.4.1, no lag:

 

[lagwagon]

His eyes are trained, maybe he s a gamer. In time, most people who play games can guess the FPS rate and he is right, CC is about 20 FPS onthe 5s with ios 9.

I've been gaming for just about 30 years, I'm no stranger to what fps is. I notice it on all versions of iOS. It's also happens on competing products, no product is immune to it happening. It just doesn't upset some as much as others, because in the grand scene of things it has no real impact on how good or the capabilities of the OS. That video which was claimed to be showing 15-20 fps CC is not even close to that low (it's not quite full 60fps either though.) So clearly numbers were being exaggerated.

 

[FatPuppy]

I've been gaming for just about 30 years, I'm no stranger to what fps is. I notice it on all versions of iOS. It's also happens on competing products, no product is immune to it happening. It just doesn't upset some as much as others, because in the grand scene of things it has no real impact on how good or the capabilities of the OS. That video which was claimed to be showing 15-20 fps CC is not even close to that low (it's not quite full 60fps either though.) So clearly numbers were being exaggerated.

Dude, just stop, you are everywhere defending Apple for ios 9. It feels like you work for Apple.

 

[C DM]

Dude, just stop, you are everywhere defending Apple for ios 9. It feels like you work for Apple.

So that means that others are everywhere attacking Apple in that case? Is that somehow better?

How about people are just speaking about their experience, and those who are having issues are just as valid to talk about them as those who aren't, right? People can certainly exaggerate on either side, but that doesn't mean that issues exist for some and don't for others or at least to a much lesser degree for others. I guess I'll throw in a as well.

 

[lagwagon]

Dude, just stop, you are everywhere defending Apple for ios 9. It feels like you work for Apple.

Dude, just stop, you are everywhere defending iOS is a laggy pile of junk. It feels like you work for Google (Android).

I'm not defending Apple. And I'm no more "everywhere" than the same few people who jump on every single thread stating its fact that iOS is crap. I'm simply saying it isn't as bad for every single user out there, as the few of you claim.

There are plenty things I don't like about Apple hardware, OS X, iOS, watchOS but I don't go around telling people who may be new or looking for genuine advice to run away and that their experience will be identical to mine.

 

[MacTownBoy]

iPhone is not indexing lol yea it does get a little be faster after 2-3 days but it's a laggy iOS Apple has always done this

You should ask your mom to explain punctuation.

 

[W123a]

Seems like people have forgotten how laggy ios 8 was when it came out? Made my state of the art ipad air1 run like a POS. There was a thread just like this one about it too. Especially when you'd type something into the safari address bar. I dont know if they ever fixed that because i ended up selling it and buying an ipad air 2. i guess Apple's business model works. Sell people hardware, release unoptimized software (or optimized for the next gen hardware) and make them upgrade if they want their device running smoothly again. lol! anywho, learned my lesson, not upgrading any time soon on my air 2.

 

[Jayson A]

Listen guys...

Tell me what I can do to my iPhone 6 to get it to perform the same way it does on 8.4.1, but on 9.0 instead. Let me know.

Also, for those of you with an iPhone 6 (not 5s or 5) please try to take a video of your flawless lag free iPhone. How can 8.4.1 run so great, but not 9.0 yet some people actually said 9.0 made things smoother for them?

So the fast phones slowed down and the slow phones sped up???

 

[gmanist1000]

From Apple's website:

Faster and more responsive.
The apps in iOS 9 now take advantage of Metal, making more efficient use of the CPU and GPU to deliver faster scrolling, smoother animation and better overall performance. Email, messages, web pages and PDFs render faster. And multitasking features on iPad feel fluid and natural.

What a bunch of lies.

This is what annoys me the most, they can't claim this and it's just not even true.

 

[ra.skill]

You wanna know about slow... Or laggyness!!! You should see my 5 year old iPhone 4 in action, now that's what I call laggyness! Still works like a charm tho, people too impatient these days... 10yrs ago you'd have to wait hours for the info you can now get in seconds. Sounds to me like you need to do a clean install and sit out the indexing.

 

[deviant]

Here is my mini 2 on 8.4.1, no lag:

my iPad air on 8.4.1 is the same. my problem is with iOS 9 :/ and not only with Control Center. that's only a little tiny detail

 

[vizi0n]

Sounds to me like you need to do a clean install and sit out the indexing.

I've updated both my iPad Air from 8.4.1 to 9.0 and they both started lagging in The Simpsons Tapped Out (choppy framerate whens scrolling vs butter smooth on 8.4.1) and the different OS features were laggy as well (app switcher, bottom menu which I cant recall the name). I've downgraded them back to 8.4.1 and tadaaa, no more lag. Strangely, 8.4.1 doesnt "index" ? I think this indexing reason is total bs

 

[Jayson A]

Guys, do you think it could be linked to something like iCloud? I wonder if the people with smooth devices (no lag) are not using iCloud and maybe using Google or some other service?

Whenever I restore (even a clean restore) I enter my iCloud information. That's the only difference for me. It could explain why some devices see improvements and others degrade.

 

[fel10]

Dude, just stop, you are everywhere defending Apple for ios 9. It feels like you work for Apple.

I thought I was the only one who noticed it. The guy is a major Apple sheep.

 

[Altis]

Yup, pre iOS 7 interactions were faster and smoother. Unfortunately that changed with iOS 7, partly by design (longer animations that can't be interrupted), and partly because of some added complexity of how they started doing things in iOS--new design, more visual effects especially around transparencies and the like, and perhaps even more under the hood, especially as of iOS 8 with support for widgets and third party keyboards and extensions and the like. It'd be great if they would get back to those levels of interaction that were there before iOS 7, but so far that hasn't been the case. Perhaps with another redesign they might get to it again, perhaps not, if things keep getting more complex and expanded which can come at the cost of some other things.

This is worth noting. I really wish Apple would focus on the speed of interactions with the phone. Having to tap or swipe several times before it responds really messes with the flow.

It started with iOS 7.0, which is brutal. The animations wouldn't let you do anything until they were settled, and then another 1/2 second. Some people claimed they didn't notice, but 6 months later when 7.1 came out and gave back some of the speed, it was quite evident how bad 7.0 was.

Funny thing... I remember back in the day there used to be charts showing the response time of the touchscreens used in the flagship phones. Apple's were always the best, though these were measured in tens of milliseconds. Now, the phone goes unresponsive for 1000 ms at a time, and many people seem unconcerned.

I suspect that I just use the phone more quickly than most. Muscle memory lives long!

 

[dampfnudel]

Even though some Apple fans swore it wasn't.

Going to try a fresh install now to see if its any less laggy on my iPhone 6.

Getting the iPad 1 form iOS 4.3 to iOS 5 vibe. Not as unusable but pretty damn annoying.

Useable? Yes

Does it feel like a blazing fast and modern OS on an iPhone that was just released a year ago? Nope.

Seems like iOS 9 was made for the newest iPhones/iPads which is disappointing because in the past, it took about 2 cycles before devices would seen noticeable slowness.

Maybe that's the reason the iPhone 6s/6s+ got the extra RAM? Too soon to say for sure. My 5s seems to run about the same as before, maybe a little better.