So turns out iOS 9 is actually laggy

[Sea Bass]

iOS 9 hasn't been smooth on any of my devices.

My iPhone 6 has a delay between tapping on an app and it opening. The new app switcher is also laggy and dropped frames are common. It feels like my iPhone 6 is already 2 years old and in need of replacement.

The iPad Air is just the worst. It's jittery and stutters just opening apps, let alone using the keyboard. Opening a folder causes dropped frame rates. Using Slide-Over has crashed the keyboard. Safari is so slow, especially typing in Safari. This is the first update where I've seen the Air lag; on iOS 7 and 8 it was buttery smooth. I honestly don't know how Apple managed to just murder what had been a fast, capable device on iOS 8.

My iPhone 5 (surprisingly) fared the best going from iOS 8->9. There hasn't been a noticeable drop in performance except for lag in the app switcher.

 

[ABC5S]

Ok, here you go. Is it useable? Of course. It just looks like a 4 year old device when it's only two years old. Hahaha.

I don't see an issue. My 5s did same over a year ago and I passed it as to how I swiped upwards/downwards as my fault not the iOS and it was not on iOS 9. Just as nice today with 9.0

 

[deviant]

iOS 9 hasn't been smooth on any of my devices.

My iPhone 6 has a delay between tapping on an app and it opening. The new app switcher is also laggy and dropped frames are common. It feels like my iPhone 6 is already 2 years old and in need of replacement.

The iPad Air is just the worst. It's jittery and stutters just opening apps, let alone using the keyboard. Opening a folder causes dropped frame rates. Using Slide-Over has crashed the keyboard. Safari is so slow, especially typing in Safari. This is the first update where I've seen the Air lag; on iOS 7 and 8 it was buttery smooth. I honestly don't know how Apple managed to just murder what had been a fast, capable device on iOS 8.

My iPhone 5 (surprisingly) fared the best going from iOS 8->9. There hasn't been a noticeable drop in performance except for lag in the app switcher.

still time to downgrade...

 

[deviant]

I don't see an issue. My 5s did same over a year ago and I passed it as to how I swiped upwards/downwards as my fault not the iOS and it was not on iOS 9. Just as nice today with 9.0

are you really blaming yourself instead of apple? new level right there, lol

 

[C DM]

Yeah I see what you mean, but our frustrations would be much louder if people didn't try to tell us that we're wrong because of some odd attachment they have to Apple.

I think part of what some people are trying to say that for many it's not as bad as some are making it out to be. Add to that that it seems that at least some of those who are having issues feel the need to go after those who aren't having the issues (sometimes on a more personal level), that equally doesn't help.

 

[coldjeanzzz]

I don't see an issue. My 5s did same over a year ago and I passed it as to how I swiped upwards/downwards as my fault not the iOS and it was not on iOS 9. Just as nice today with 9.0

No I can clearly see the jitter in that video. Some people just don't have the eye for it because they never seemed to notice how smooth it was in the first place.

 

[lagwagon]

Yeah I see what you mean, but our frustrations would be much louder if people didn't try to tell us that we're wrong because of some odd attachment they have to Apple.

No one is trying to tell you or anyone who experience stutters or lag is wrong. The only people who have been saying others are wrong are the people who do and say people who don't are.

iOS 7 had stutter in some areas, so did 8, so does 9. So do Android phones. So do full fledge computers. Animations are just eye candy. For the most part when one stutters it's still taking the same length of time (it's just showing fewer frames.) Nothing is every going to be perfect all the time unless animations are completely removed and boring.

As for your comment of me "excusing Apple" in another post. I'm not. I just realize a system on whatever current OS or from any brand will never be "omg 60fps 110% of the time and never even dip to 59fps." That's just unrealistic in every way.

 

[C DM]

No I can clearly see the jitter in that video. Some people just don't have the eye for it because they never seemed to notice how smooth it was in the first place.

And many people might see it but don't see that as anything to worry about it. It's not perfection, but it's much closer to being at least fine if not more than that, than being bad.

 

[wagszilla]

It seems to be working great on iPhone 5.

I'm not a fan of the new App Switcher but besides that, good stuff.

 

[itsJoeClark]

I think part of what some people are trying to say that for many it's not as bad as some are making it out to be. Add to that that it seems that at least some of those who are having issues feel the need to go after those who aren't having the issues (sometimes on a more personal level), that equally doesn't help.

But again that is just a matter of perception. Whether you think the lag is unbearable, or absolutely minuscule, what doesn't change is that lag exists where it didn't before. It's just inexcusable on devices of this calibre.

In terms of going after people, I think it's important to call a spade a spade. If you're telling me YOU don't experience problems with iOS 9, good for you. That doesn't invalidate anything I've said. You just don't notice the lag. Again I go back to what I said before, all our complaining can do is improve things. I see no reason why someone would feel the need to jump in in defence of a COMPANY. It just baffles my mind, and that's coming from a huge fan of Apple.

 

[cwwilson]

I'm having a major glitch on Apple Music where I can't "like" any more songs. I press the heart button but then it instantly "unhearts".

Is there a limit or something?

 

[doug in albq]

I see the two resident MR Apple apologists are hitting this thread hard in the last hour with their rhetoric.

Speed and stability update my ass.

 

[sracer]

But again that is just a matter of perception. Whether you think the lag is unbearable, or absolutely minuscule, what doesn't change is that lag exists where it didn't before. It's just inexcusable on devices of this calibre.

In terms of going after people, I think it's important to call a spade a spade. If you're telling me YOU don't experience problems with iOS 9, good for you. That doesn't invalidate anything I've said. You just don't notice the lag. Again I go back to what I said before, all our complaining can do is improve things. I see no reason why someone would feel the need to jump in in defence of a COMPANY. It just baffles my mind, and that's coming from a huge fan of Apple.

It is possible that those who claim not to experience any lag truly don't. Not that they don't perceive it but that it simply isn't there. Although millions of iOS devices are manufactured with identical hardware specs, there can be variances in manufacturing tolerances that could cause iOS to behave differently. This is most evident when taking identical devices and freshly installing iOS on it only to have differing results.

Unfortunately, I'm not one of the fortunate ones. If there are some who report a lag with a particular combo then I can guarantee that I will experience it too.

 

[C DM]

But again that is just a matter of perception. Whether you think the lag is unbearable, or absolutely minuscule, what doesn't change is that lag exists where it didn't before. It's just inexcusable on devices of this calibre.

In terms of going after people, I think it's important to call a spade a spade. If you're telling me YOU don't experience problems with iOS 9, good for you. That doesn't invalidate anything I've said. You just don't notice the lag. Again I go back to what I said before, all our complaining can do is improve things. I see no reason why someone would feel the need to jump in in defence of a COMPANY. It just baffles my mind, and that's coming from a huge fan of Apple.

Unexcusable is unrealistic. In utopia that's unexcusable, in reality, far from it. As I mentioned before, the iOS 7 forum has plenty of threads about this kind of thing relating to it all changing in iOS 7, things just get rehashed year after year. Sure, discussing and complaining is fine, but making it out to be some big thing is unrealistic, as those iOS 7 threads show from a few years back.

And, yes, someone not having issues doesn't invalidate someone having issues, but a lot of people are not saying it invalidates that, and even going out of their way to say that some people might very well be having more issues than others, yet even those people end up on the end of replies that imply they have no eyes or some other equally pointlessly childish remarks. None of that helps anything.

 

[C DM]

I see the two resident MR Apple apologists are hitting this thread hard in the last hour with their rhetoric.

Speed and stability update my ass.

From the past posts I know that was partly aimed at me so I'll say that it cleverly overlooks all of my participation in these types of threads back from iOS 7 days (and similarly overlooks what I actually say). And as usual thanks for focusing on the people rather than the issues, it really provides good solid support to arguments.

 

[itsJoeClark]

I'll probably bounce back to 9.1 beta 2 (probably coming next week) but for now 9.0 release seems to be the best of the two.



I'd like to see a video of your 5s 15-20 fps on the the CC window.

It is possible that those who claim not to experience any lag truly don't. Not that they don't perceive it but that it simply isn't there. Although millions of iOS devices are manufactured with identical hardware specs, there can be variances in manufacturing tolerances that could cause iOS to behave differently. This is most evident when taking identical devices and freshly installing iOS on it only to have differing results.

Unfortunately, I'm not one of the fortunate ones. If there are some who report a lag with a particular combo then I can guarantee that I will experience it too.

I don't think that is possible. Again, don't buy it. You either don't notice the lag, or you don't care. (By the way, that isn't an insult if you don't notice. Many don't. What I'm saying is that it's still there irregardless)

 

[sracer]

I don't think that is possible. Again, don't buy it. You either don't notice the lag, or you don't care. (By the way, that isn't an insult if you don't notice. Many don't. What I'm saying is that it's still there irregardless)

Based on my experience with computer manufacturing I can assure you that it is possible.

 

[itsJoeClark]

Unexcusable is unrealistic. In utopia that's unexcusable, in reality, far from it. As I mentioned before, the iOS 7 forum has plenty of threads about this kind of thing relating to it all changing in iOS 7, things just get rehashed year after year. Sure, discussing and complaining is fine, but making it out to be some big thing is unrealistic, as those iOS 7 threads show from a few years back.

And, yes, someone not having issues doesn't invalidate someone having issues, but a lot of people are not saying it invalidates that, and even going out of their way to say that some people might very well be having more issues than others, yet even those people end up on the end of replies that imply they have no eyes or some other equally pointlessly childish remarks. None of that helps anything.

My argument is simple; lag should not exist where it didn't before especially on devices only a year old.

Just for clarification, when I say that you either don't notice the lag or don't care, I'm not meaning that as an insult. Many people just don't see it for a variety of reasons, but that doesn't change the fact that it exists. I just believe that it is inexcusable for a device only a year old to be degraded in quality so much where we can now observe visual lag.

 

[nrvna76]

I usually don't notice lag, but I definitely notice it is iOS 9.

 

[itsJoeClark]

Based on my experience with computer manufacturing I can assure you that it is possible.

That's fine, still don't buy it. There's no way two identical models of iPhone with exactly the same software will operate so differently where one will have easily demonstrable lag, and the other will not. Sure, there may be tiny immeasurable differences, but they wouldn't amount to something like this.

 

[C DM]

My argument is simple; lag should not exist where it didn't before especially on devices only a year old.

Just for clarification, when I say that you either don't notice the lag or don't care, I'm not meaning that as an insult. Many people just don't see it for a variety of reasons, but that doesn't change the fact that it exists. I just believe that it is inexcusable for a device only a year old to be degraded in quality so much where we can now observe visual lag.

I agree with what you say. What I'm saying is that the lag can and does differ--for some it's more pronounced than others. For some it's because it is in fact more pronounced for some reason, for some it's because they don't perceive it that way. And, again, while agree perfection is what should be there, ultimately we live in reality which isn't perfect. None of that is to say that's good or anything like that, just to say that's what it is, and what we discuss here and how we go about it won't really change it--as evidenced by many discussions of this exact topic over the last few years (many of which I participated in taking the same type of stance that you have).

It is what it is, and while it's not great, for many it's good enough, and while that's sad in a way, it still is what it is, and as years have showed being upset about it and demanding better doesn't end up doing much (short of way WAY more people actually jumping in on that, and that's even less realistic).

 

[newellj]

Personally, yes. The official 9.0 release for me (and many) has seen quite an improvement over last weeks GM build and I'm noticing a slight improvement over 9.1 beta 1. (Biggest improvement benign my Safari doesn't crash on 9.0 release vs 9.1 beta.)

How does battery life compare between 9.0 public release and 8.4.1, at least as a general impression? The 9.0 PB gave me very poor battery life.

 

[TommyA6]

No one is trying to tell you or anyone who experience stutters or lag is wrong. The only people who have been saying others are wrong are the people who do and say people who don't are.

iOS 7 had stutter in some areas, so did 8, so does 9. So do Android phones. So do full fledge computers. Animations are just eye candy. For the most part when one stutters it's still taking the same length of time (it's just showing fewer frames.) Nothing is every going to be perfect all the time unless animations are completely removed and boring.

As for your comment of me "excusing Apple" in another post. I'm not. I just realize a system on whatever current OS or from any brand will never be "omg 60fps 110% of the time and never even dip to 59fps." That's just unrealistic in every way.

iOS 6 had ZERO stutters on my iPhone 5. The same goes for iPhone 4 on iOS 4.
My iPhone 6 Plus had stutters in several places in iOS 8, and (performance and smoothness improvement improved) iOS 9 hasn't fixed it.

 

[sunking101]

My argument is simple; lag should not exist where it didn't before especially on devices only a year old.

Just for clarification, when I say that you either don't notice the lag or don't care, I'm not meaning that as an insult. Many people just don't see it for a variety of reasons, but that doesn't change the fact that it exists. I just believe that it is inexcusable for a device only a year old to be degraded in quality so much where we can now observe visual lag.

The 6+ lagged from new. Not even a year old. New.
As for those saying that Android lags and computers lag etc, that it's to be expected, the fact is that iOS didn't once upon a time. The lag started with iOS8 and the gimped 6+ exhibited it more than any other iPhone.

 

[C DM]

iOS 6 had ZERO stutters on my iPhone 5. The same goes for iPhone 4 on iOS 4.
My iPhone 6 Plus had stutters in several places in iOS 8, and (performance and smoothness improvement improved) iOS 9 hasn't fixed it.

Yup, things changed since iOS 7 as multiples of threads in the iOS 7 (and iOS 8) forums can demonstrate.