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Since when Duolingo rolled their redesign a year or few ago I stopped learning new languages, app now nearly unusable. “Courage”🤦‍♂️
 
See now, I would have gone with “hey, we are really sorry our new update bricked parts of your sound system you’ve spent thousands on and I know you’re putting aside a few hours this weekend with tech support to unbrick them” but yeah I guess “courage” works a well, I feel much better now. Thank you.
 
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I purchased a Sonos speaker for the kitchen. After connecting it to my network, it would show up on the app then just refused to play anything and would disconnect. Took it back for a refund and got a homepod mini instead. Might not sound as good but at least it works more often than not!
 
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So why push the release if they have not had the time to implement basic functions? What were they thinking? The users are gonna live the half baked app and are surely fine waiting for all the core functions? Why not just finish the damn app and release it when it’s done??
It’s the new norm to release half baked software and take 2 years to finish it and then once it’s done they will scrap that and rinse repeat
 
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As a Sonos user with a properly set up home network I've had zero (0) issues and am enjoying the new app.
Airplay 2 to all 12 Sonos speakers, flawless before and after the app update.
Homekit integration also perfect before and after the update.
Zero issues playing multiple different music services across out home using the app.

Remember folks - A happy customer tells 1 person, an uneducated customer complains to 10 people.
 


Sonos this week released a major redesign for the Sonos app, introducing customizable home screen meant to deliver a personalized listening experience. The update was announced back in April, but just went live, and unfortunately, it removes a number of features while also introducing several bugs.

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Multiple complaints on social media have called the app a "step back" with missing features like editing a song queue, managing playlists, shuffling a music library, and setting alarms and timers, along with slow performance and hard-to-access system controls. There has also been feedback from users about missing accessibility features.

The Verge asked Sonos about the negative feedback, and in response, Sonos said that it's aware of the complaints, but "it takes courage" to rebuild a core product.Sonos said that it is working to address the missing features "in the coming months," and the update will ultimately lead to "exciting innovations" in the years to come. There is no way for iOS customers who have already upgraded their apps to go back to the prior version, though users are calling for Sonos to roll back the update until the new app is more fully fleshed out.

Article Link: Sonos Said Rolling Out Widely Criticized App Redesign Took 'Courage'
Courage? That's a powerful word to mask the BS of deadlines and job stress. I'll make my feedback simple... I Hate the new app! How could it be this bad that a simple technique of having targeted groups of users try it first. If they did, something went haywire with that too.
 
Perfect, textbook example of everything that is wrong with software development today. Why was re-invention necessary? Why do they have to "re-introduce beloved features in the coming months?" What was so important that they had to launch a half baked app right now?

Management metrics and corporate culture at it again. The people actually making the software have no say, the users who have to deal with it have no say (other than to stop using the company's products.) Management tunnel vision.
Management hubris.
 
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Sonos this week released a major redesign for the Sonos app, introducing customizable home screen meant to deliver a personalized listening experience. The update was announced back in April, but just went live, and unfortunately, it removes a number of features while also introducing several bugs.

sonos-redesigned-app.jpg

Multiple complaints on social media have called the app a "step back" with missing features like editing a song queue, managing playlists, shuffling a music library, and setting alarms and timers, along with slow performance and hard-to-access system controls. There has also been feedback from users about missing accessibility features.

The Verge asked Sonos about the negative feedback, and in response, Sonos said that it's aware of the complaints, but "it takes courage" to rebuild a core product.Sonos said that it is working to address the missing features "in the coming months," and the update will ultimately lead to "exciting innovations" in the years to come. There is no way for iOS customers who have already upgraded their apps to go back to the prior version, though users are calling for Sonos to roll back the update until the new app is more fully fleshed out.

Article Link: Sonos Said Rolling Out Widely Criticized App Redesign Took 'Courage'
Sonos is an example for when great hardware meets sub par development and design.
They haven’t done a thing that people actually want around usability.
Who cares how easy it is to find a song (allegedly) when you can’t find your speakers?

They still didn’t fix intermittent disappearing and stopping speakers and music and of course still no way to get to control the speakers while not on the WiFi or using shortcuts.

Their only saving grace is that their speakers are good.
 
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I am not a user/owner of their products.

If doing a mistake is bad, admitting it is actually a good move is hilarious.


As I said not a user and never will be, but I will gladly stick with media players like Winamp and foobar2000 on my computer, thank you very much.
 
Why on earth not keep the app and either A) keep the app and release a second app with missing features but develop it further and B) not release the app until basic features are ready?

I mean I love technology, but this IoT thing where a company a goes out of business, my devices don’t work because we were brave and included a online subscription service to allow basic functionality, oh sorry the old devices don’t work on our new servers sorry, sorry it’s EOL after 5 years, oh technology moves at such a rapid pace…..when I still use my 30 year old Bang&Olfussen speakers and they are marvellous….
 
As a Sonos user with a properly set up home network I've had zero (0) issues and am enjoying the new app.
Airplay 2 to all 12 Sonos speakers, flawless before and after the app update.
Homekit integration also perfect before and after the update.
Zero issues playing multiple different music services across out home using the app.

Remember folks - A happy customer tells 1 person, an uneducated customer complains to 10 people.

Impressive you manage to pat yourself on the back while insulting others with nothing more than an anecdote. But you might want to tell Sonos to stop apologizing and just blame the users like you do.
 
Since Airplay 2 and Alexa were introduced, I’ve barely used the app, so the complaints haven’t bothered me.

Not justifying them releasing a subpar app though!
 
I have zero sympathy for anyone affected by this that are using Sonos' new products. You saw how they treat legacy customers previously with the App debacle, the very people who helped build the brand to what it is today.

Along with many others, I ditched my Sonos gear when they decided their old customers were unimportant. I wasn't even affected by the changes as I had relatively new Sonos gear at the time, but why would I want to keep products from a company that is known to treat it's customers like trash? I could understand if it was a budget/midrange product with pricing to match, but Sonos speakers are midrange at best with premium prices.

On top of all this, iOS users receive the best app with the best features. Strangely though, Airplay was always awful for me with regular audio glitches. It works fine on every other device, just not Sonos. After moving to Android, the app experience is clearly a massive step down, and to top it all off Sonos massively dislike Google as a business so you don't get Chromecast or anything built in. You also can't use their "trueplay" feature to tune the speakers, because they're still living in 2010 and think that all Android devices come with poor quality mics (not that this was ever true anyway).

You'd honestly be better off finding some cheap Airport devices or Chromecast Audio on eBay and building your own "smart" speakers. A pair of AudioEngine A2+, even if you went the wall mount route, would cost less than a single Sonos Beam yet your audio experience would be significantly better in every way. Guess what? They'll also work in 10 years time, because you don't need planned obsolesence filled software updates for a magnet inside a wood box.
 
What all the critics seem not to consider is that SONOS is a relatively small company that allways will be tight on budget.
The products don't have a premium price that would allow for higher margins.
The best proof is that after three years since the introduction of Apple Silicon Macs, the macOS SONOS app is still Intel only.
The SONOS app for iOS/iPadOS required a refresh. Maybe they released the software too early.
Yes, there are a lot of missing features, but one added feature I don't remember it was available previously.
With a web browser at play.sonos.com, the system can be controlled from anywhere.
I wasn't sure at first whether there was sarcasm in that post but in what world do the products NOT have a premium price that would allow for higher margins? I love my Sonos Moves but in no way is that stereo Setup worth the 900€ it currently costs here in Germany. Same with the soundbars. It's convenient and the sound is pleasant enough so most people will like it. But it's a steep upsell you pay for the convenience and I had many moments where one device or another had problems to connect where I doubted my decision to spend that much money if the core feature, the ease of use, isn't even reliable always.
 
Do people really use the SONOS app for anything other than updates? I connect to the speakers through Spotify/Apple Music/whatever, rarely go into the app itself.

I use it to setup the "alarm clock".
Which they removed in the new app.
But alarms you setup before, are still active. Which means you have no way to stop or change them.

Well luckily the Mac App still has it and i have now just disabled them.

I imagine anyone using Sonos to wake them up will run into this problem.
 
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