Sooooo iOS 8 anyone?

[jrswizzle]

Cmon now.......don't get me started.......That is not what was said.....
The very cool thing about Android is you can CHOOSE different apps on your phone. Apple is finally letting you CHOOSE to install a new keyboard.....after how many years of being able to do that on Android?? Now who is copying who? So lets not go there.......

Again, not a FEATURE but a product of being an open-source OS from the get go. Android has always had that advantage (if you choose to see it as such) over iOS. It's inherent in each OS.

Apple, via various APIs has opened up. This isn't copying Android, but simply opening up like countless other OSes before them. I agree it is something that should be applauded - and also not something that is unique to Apple.

 

[Vegastouch]

Seems like they are getting closer to what I want, Swiftkey keyboards and a larger screen, but still no "back key", Swypepad and the ability to hide all apps would keep me with my S5, I would also miss Google Now and don't recall a similar thing on the iPhone. Don't know how far back they will allow Yosemite to go, hoping it will be ok on my mid 2010 MBP.

Which is cool and big for Apple but i dont use Swiftkey much at all anymore and never use the Swype keyboard. I like Kii and the Google keyboard better than those, but it is a welcome change for the iPhone. I hated the stock keyboard on it which made texting frustrating.

 

[jrswizzle]

Just kid yourself that android dvm is not a sandboxed environment.




So why are you so negative to the point uselessnes of those features when apple didn't have them.

Now you are saying those are good features and Apple will do them better. you are just back pedalling and being a hypocrite.



Galaxy S is not an identical of the iPhone but every apple fanboys said it was copying. You are the one blinded by your own clouded mind.

Again, you lump me in with "apple fanboys". I never said any of these features were useless. S-Health is likely great, I don't know - I've never used it. I think health tracking apps/features are definitely useful. I use iOS so I'm glad Apple is implementing them.

As for something I find useless (just for example's sake, I don't want to get into another argument), the notification LED never served me any purpose. And I wouldn't feel differently even if Apple implemented it. Do I bash a phone for having it? Of course not - its an option I can turn off. But regardless of which OEM implements it (and I don't see an implementation that would be useful either), I still wouldn't like/use it. Apple or otherwise.

So instead of continuing this idiotic assumption circle where you speak for me - how about just taking what I'm saying to you as what I'm saying.

 

[jamezr]

Again, not a FEATURE but a product of being an open-source OS from the get go. Android has always had that advantage (if you choose to see it as such) over iOS. It's inherent in each OS.

Apple, via various APIs has opened up. This isn't copying Android, but simply opening up like countless other OSes before them. I agree it is something that should be applauded - and also not something that is unique to Apple.

too late......backpedaling now.... You have gone and said "meh" to all kinds of Android features that are now appearing on IOS......so now they are APIs.........that turn into apps that are features! LOL!!!

 

[Technarchy]

I think they hit a homerun with integration between iOS and OSX products. Other than that, nothing that truly impresses me or haven't seen.

This is probably a bit chunk of the appeal.

My galaxy S5 plays pretty nice with my Mac and iPad, but no where near as integrated as iOS8.

For people that own all Apple products, iOS8 and Yosemite will really get the hooks in with the strongest ecosystem in the business.

Anyway, Apple has my curiosity, now lets see if iPhone 6 can get my attention.

 

[jamezr]

This is probably a bit chunk of the appeal.

My galaxy S5 plays pretty nice with my Mac and iPad, but no where near as integrated as iOS8.

For people that own all Apple products, iOS8 and Yosemite will really get the hooks in with the strongest ecosystem in the business.[/QUOTE]

That is a great point.........If you are all into the ecosystem then it is very nice.

 

[Vegastouch]

Its different. You have to go into the notification center to quick reply on Android.

Or just use the popup window to do it

 

[jrswizzle]

all of my information....my Google Maps searches and navigations....how long it will take me to go to/come home from work......My recent Google searches......suggestions from my Google + preferences.......those are just a few.....

EDIT: did you say a widget in IOS? WOW...didn't you poo poo that as a useless feature on Android devices? Now its a good feature on IOS? LOL!!!

Interesting - well Today shows time it takes to get somewhere based on where you normally go at that time of day.....for example,

In the morning it will show me the time it will take me to get to work using the route I normally use (which isn't the normal route provided in Maps). Then around lunch time it tells me how long it'll take to get to the mall because I frequently go to the Food Court for lunch. Then in the afternoon it tells me how long it'll take to get home.

As for places of interest, restaurant suggestions, and those types of things - there isn't an iOS equivalent at the system level I'm aware of.

Sports scores will be available in notification center as widgets. And of course you can ask Siri all of these things from the lock screen.

As for your widget comment - I never "poo poo"ed widgets. I'm not particularly found of the way they are implemented in Android. I never used many of them. I will however use them in Apple based on the way they are implemented (at least a few of them).

Key difference for me is location. I don't want widgets on my home screen. Its cluttered and most of the time they're an unnecessary drain on my battery just to show me half the content I want to see.

If you saw the widget mock-up earlier last week, I was against that as well - even though it was an "iOS mockup". I prefer to keep either a dedicated widget page (which is what I advocated for as I do see SOME usefulness in widgets and said so before the keynote) or what Apple is implementing in iOS 8 - simple at a glance info in the notification center which is accessible from the lock screen.

The bolded is absolutely key. Widgets are definitely worthless if I can't get at them from the lock screen. We'll see how third parties put them together, but I still don't know how many I'll want to use.....likely not many. Sportscenter is really the only one that I can think of now.

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too late......backpedaling now.... You have gone and said "meh" to all kinds of Android features that are now appearing on IOS......so now they are APIs.........that turn into apps that are features! LOL!!!

I'm actually not backpedaling at all. I haven't said "meh" to "all kinds of Android features". You're just saying I have.

Not being impressed with something (meh) and making the distinction between copying and difference in implementation are separate things.

Stop putting words in my mouth. It's irritating.

 

[TechGod]

Or just use the popup window to do it

With Paranoid Android I actually use the Hover feature.

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Interesting - well Today shows time it takes to get somewhere based on where you normally go at that time of day.....for example,

In the morning it will show me the time it will take me to get to work using the route I normally use (which isn't the normal route provided in Maps). Then around lunch time it tells me how long it'll take to get to the mall because I frequently go to the Food Court for lunch. Then in the afternoon it tells me how long it'll take to get home.

As for places of interest, restaurant suggestions, and those types of things - there isn't an iOS equivalent at the system level I'm aware of.

Sports scores will be available in notification center as widgets. And of course you can ask Siri all of these things from the lock screen.

As for your widget comment - I never "poo poo"ed widgets. I'm not particularly found of the way they are implemented in Android. I never used many of them. I will however use them in Apple based on the way they are implemented (at least a few of them).

Key difference for me is location. I don't want widgets on my home screen. Its cluttered and most of the time they're an unnecessary drain on my battery just to show me half the content I want to see.

If you saw the widget mock-up earlier last week, I was against that as well - even though it was an "iOS mockup". I prefer to keep either a dedicated widget page (which is what I advocated for as I do see SOME usefulness in widgets and said so before the keynote) or what Apple is implementing in iOS 8 - simple at a glance info in the notification center which is accessible from the lock screen.

The bolded is absolutely key. Widgets are definitely worthless if I can't get at them from the lock screen. We'll see how third parties put them together, but I still don't know how many I'll want to use.....likely not many. Sportscenter is really the only one that I can think of now.

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I'm actually not backpedaling at all. I haven't said "meh" to "all kinds of Android features". You're just saying I have.

Not being impressed with something (meh) and making the distinction between copying and difference in implementation are separate things.

Stop putting words in my mouth. It's irritating.

Jrwizzle, it's not worth it. Your posts make sense to me and I don't know why we are being clumped in with the hard core fans.

I, however am going to watch WWDC now so laters

 

[jamezr]

Interesting - well Today shows time it takes to get somewhere based on where you normally go at that time of day.....for example,

In the morning it will show me the time it will take me to get to work using the route I normally use (which isn't the normal route provided in Maps). Then around lunch time it tells me how long it'll take to get to the mall because I frequently go to the Food Court for lunch. Then in the afternoon it tells me how long it'll take to get home.

As for places of interest, restaurant suggestions, and those types of things - there isn't an iOS equivalent at the system level I'm aware of.

Sports scores will be available in notification center as widgets. And of course you can ask Siri all of these things from the lock screen.

As for your widget comment - I never "poo poo"ed widgets. I'm not particularly found of the way they are implemented in Android. I never used many of them. I will however use them in Apple based on the way they are implemented (at least a few of them).

Key difference for me is location. I don't want widgets on my home screen. Its cluttered and most of the time they're an unnecessary drain on my battery just to show me half the content I want to see.

If you saw the widget mock-up earlier last week, I was against that as well - even though it was an "iOS mockup". I prefer to keep either a dedicated widget page (which is what I advocated for as I do see SOME usefulness in widgets and said so before the keynote) or what Apple is implementing in iOS 8 - simple at a glance info in the notification center which is accessible from the lock screen.

The bolded is absolutely key. Widgets are definitely worthless if I can't get at them from the lock screen. We'll see how third parties put them together, but I still don't know how many I'll want to use.....likely not many. Sportscenter is really the only one that I can think of now.

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I'm actually not backpedaling at all. I haven't said "meh" to "all kinds of Android features". You're just saying I have.

Not being impressed with something (meh) and making the distinction between copying and difference in implementation are separate things.

Stop putting words in my mouth. It's irritating.

No one is putting words in your mouth....do you see a common theme from most people here and your favoritism? Everyone one knows your a huge apple supporter(trying not to say something else). Nothing wrong with that. You have said "meh" to Android features and software. Just admit it.......your losing big time credibility now.......just own up to it. Everyone knows anyway.....

 

[jrswizzle]

No one is putting words in your mouth....have yo seen a common theme from most people here and your favoritism? everyone one knows your a huge apple supporter(trying not to say something else), You have said "meh" to Android features and software. Just admit it.......your losing big time credibility now.......just own up to it. Everyone knows anyway.....

(1) I freely admit I'm an iOS guy. Never claimed to be any different.

(2) Can you show me where I've said "meh" to all these various Android features you're claiming? I've hammered the notification light pretty hard, split screen multitasking (which isn't even Android - more Samsung/Windows), widgets to a certain degree (though I did use a few like I've said).....any others?

(3) I've actually praised a number of Android handsets and software quite a bit here. Went most of 2013 using various Android devices to try it out. Have encouraged other users to try out Android and given recommendations on some devices I thought were really nice.

It seems there are a few of you who simply read into my posts what you want to read. I don't conform to the typical Android drone so I'm labeling some outrageous fanboy and my comments are twisted and bashed. Mind you this is only done by a few posters here. The majority of people on this sub forum are very easy to converse with and seem to have no problem with me.....

Unless you all get together every week to talk about the latest crazy Apple fanboy thing I've said.....which if that's the case, I'm flattered.

 

[jamezr]

(1) I freely admit I'm an iOS guy. Never claimed to be any different.

(2) Can you show me where I've said "meh" to all these various Android features you're claiming? I've hammered the notification light pretty hard, split screen multitasking (which isn't even Android - more Samsung/Windows), widgets to a certain degree (though I did use a few like I've said).....any others?

(3) I've actually praised a number of Android handsets and software quite a bit here. Went most of 2013 using various Android devices to try it out. Have encouraged other users to try out Android and given recommendations on some devices I thought were really nice.

It seems there are a few of you who simply read into my posts what you want to read. I don't conform to the typical Android drone so I'm labeling some outrageous fanboy and my comments are twisted and bashed. Mind you this is only done by a few posters here. The majority of people on this sub forum are very easy to converse with and seem to have no problem with me.....

Unless you all get together every week to talk about the latest crazy Apple fanboy thing I've said.....which if that's the case, I'm flattered.

ok....on the ignore list you go......no credibility.......just own up to things. I ma not going to wade through your posts and prove it to you...not wasting my time with you anymore. Not worth the cycles.....

 

[jrswizzle]

ok....on the ignore list you go......no credibility.......just own up to things. I ma not going to wade through your posts and prove it to you...not wasting my time with you anymore. Not worth the cycles.....

Lol - thanks for proving my point on the way out.

I take the time to craft carefully thought out rebuttals, you ignore me.

Toodles!

 

[MRU]

This thread .. The bickering .. The arguments ..

#facepalm


Seriously the last 4 -5 pages are just you guys bickering ... It's an embarrassment.

 

[Switchback666]

Apple knows how to hype things so finally quick reply and third party keyboards, i was expecting swipe/gesture from apple but if swiftkey is coming.

I think this means in the not so distant future whe are going to see apple support set others apps by default.

Great things and i really like the osx side with handoff etc going to update to ios8 in the morning but i need that phablet apple....

 

[jeffe]

I suppose I did - though my example today was with my phone right next to me. I had to answer the call, then switch to speaker phone on the iPhone while I was sitting working on my iMac.

New feature = accept call on iMac without looking at iPhone or moving my hands from the keyboard/track pad. Seems pretty sweet.

Sprint users have been able to do this with Google voice for a few years now. It's pretty nice to hear the phone ring through the computer but I almost always picked up the call using my actual phone. I've since disabled the feature and don't miss it at all. I don't doubt plenty of people will love it though.

 

[Switchback666]

Sprint users have been able to do this with Google voice for a few years now. It's pretty nice to hear the phone ring through the computer but I almost always picked up the call using my actual phone. I've since disabled the feature and don't miss it at all. I don't doubt plenty of people will love it though.

If they can find a way to know how the the phone is from the mac that can be useful, like only show notifications on the mac when the phone is on X distance otherwise just regular phone notification.

I dont think i will be using it that much at least for the call aspect, texting its good thing to have.

 

[Oohara]

Swipe typing and the new possibilities off apps interacting with each other sound so promising that I'm actually rather excited about iOS 8. Much more than I had expected to be, honestly. But the 5.5" iPhone really needs to come true - after one year with a Note 2, I just couldn't go back to a smaller screen.

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Seriously the last 4 -5 pages are just you guys bickering ... It's an embarrassment.

+1. Had to wade through a ton of ego based posts just to get to the end of the thread.

 

[jeffe]

If they can find a way to know how the the phone is from the mac that can be useful, like only show notifications on the mac when the phone is on X distance otherwise just regular phone notification.

I dont think i will be using it that much at least for the call aspect, texting its good thing to have.

Yeah texting from the PC was fantastic and super convenient. To me it's not really that more convenient to make a difference but it's a nice feature to have and I know some android users use apps to do just that and were pretty upset when Google made it more difficult for them to do so.

I loved getting the calls on my PC when my phone was not nearby. I was less likely to miss calls because of this. It is also really helpful for when I was in an area with bad service.

 

[Switchback666]

Almost forgot about battery usage/chart for the apps, more control to see whats going on plus maybe finally whe gonna know the correct screen on time dont know why it took this long for it.

 

[The Game 161]

Still don't know what took them so long with third party keyboards

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#facepalm


Seriously the last 4 -5 pages are just you guys bickering ... It's an embarrassment.

Ha

You knew it would happen. It always ends like this.

 

[Switchback666]

Still don't know what took them so long with third party keyboards

I can understand the third party keyboards because of the whole "walled garden stance" but other things they announced i seriously dont know why took so long lol

I think im ready for the apple phablet with ios 8 and osx, what about you mate ? Will 5.5" iphone will keep us away from the Note 4 ?

 

[adder7712]

A bit underwhelming to be honest.

They're just a bunch of features they've lifted from other platforms.

 

[The Game 161]

I can understand the third party keyboards because of the whole "walled garden stance" but other things they announced i seriously dont know why took so long lol

I think im ready for the apple phablet with ios 8 and osx, what about you mate ? Will 5.5" iphone will keep us away from the Note 4 ?

The 5'5 is the only thing that could tempt me. And to be honest I would be tempted as first reason I left iPhone was due to screen size..the design is stunning after all. Part of me would miss too many features on Android. Would be more tempted if apple added an S pen type feature.
Chances are 98% Note 4 will be my next device but a 5'5 iPhone will make me think about it.. Would make me really think hard.

The fact I have all Android devices now would be rough to leave it all.

Wonder if the 5'5 iPhone is out this year.

 

[Switchback666]

The 5'5 is the only thing that could tempt me. And to be honest I would be tempted as first reason I left iPhone was due to screen size..the design is stunning after all. Part of me would miss too many features on Android. Would be more tempted if apple added an S pen type feature.
Chances are 98% Note 4 will be my next device but a 5'5 iPhone will make me think about it.. Would make me really think hard.

The fact I have all Android devices now would be rough to leave it all.

Wonder if the 5'5 iPhone is out this year.

This is actually why i never got the gear fit, dont really want to have something like a smart watch/band and locked to a specific set of devices/OS, totally understand and yeah if apple added an S pen alternative that would be huge in my book but i dont think whe going to see it i dont think it fits on the whole design they have going on with the iphone.