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Sooooo iOS 8 anyone?

jamezr said:
Not sure about that.......Didn't poo poo that idea of having your phone in another room and notifications? Correct me if I am wrong about that.
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I suppose I did - though my example today was with my phone right next to me. I had to answer the call, then switch to speaker phone on the iPhone while I was sitting working on my iMac.

New feature = accept call on iMac without looking at iPhone or moving my hands from the keyboard/track pad. Seems pretty sweet.

But i am not sure about getting double notifications. If i am at my desk as i am now....writing this from my iMac.......with my iPhone right next to me......I get a text......then get 2 notifications....one on my phone....one on my iMac with Yosemite. I think that would annoy me after a while......
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Oh I agree completely - that's why I only have my phone numbers associated with my iPhones and not my iPads or Macs. If someone wants to iMessage me via my AppleId, I'll get it on my Macs but otherwise it only pops up on my phone.

Even so, once you clear it in one place, it goes away on the others so its not a huge deal. Again, if your phone isn't in the room you aren't hearing two dings likely anyhow so....

But I've had the exact same thought.
 
jrswizzle said:
I've already had an instance today where it would've been cool and useful to answer my phone on my mac. And if it work with your phone in another room? I'd think all you notification light guys would be drooling over that :D;)
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Naaah. If it isn't on my person, I don't want to be bothered.;)
 
jrswizzle said:
I suppose I did - though my example today was with my phone right next to me. I had to answer the call, then switch to speaker phone on the iPhone while I was sitting working on my iMac.

New feature = accept call on iMac without looking at iPhone or moving my hands from the keyboard/track pad. Seems pretty sweet.



Oh I agree completely - that's why I only have my phone numbers associated with my iPhones and not my iPads or Macs. If someone wants to iMessage me via my AppleId, I'll get it on my Macs but otherwise it only pops up on my phone.

Even so, once you clear it in one place, it goes away on the others so its not a huge deal. Again, if your phone isn't in the room you aren't hearing two dings likely anyhow so....

But I've had the exact same thought.
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Accepting a call on your iMac...iPad....MBP....might seem like a neat idea. Until you actually do it......how is the microphone and speaker on those devices? Not as good as your iPhone.......but it might suffice if your phone was in another room.....
 
jrswizzle said:
Well said jamezr - I agree. This desire to see something completely new every year is pointless. There's always SOMETHING that came before it. That's why I focus so much on implementation. That's where some key differences lie.

I'm really excited to see how the continuity features work. Hope I get into the OS X public beta. Already put iOS 8 on my iPad Air and am going to throw it on my 5C as well. It seems really stable so far (far more stable than iOS 7b1 - which wasn't terrible for me).

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I've already had an instance today where it would've been cool and useful to answer my phone on my mac. And if it work with your phone in another room? I'd think all you notification light guys would be drooling over that :D;)
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you can't help yourself :p
 
Fanaticalism said:
Naaah. If it isn't on my person, I don't want to be bothered.;)
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That could perhaps be the case. I would agree ;)

But like I said, my example would've been easier that accepting the call and switching to speaker phone on my iPhone when I was working on my Mac. Even though the phone is literally right next to me.
 
jamezr said:
Accepting a call on your iMac...iPad....MBP....might seem like a neat idea. Until you actually do it......how is the microphone and speaker on those devices? Not as good as your iPhone.......but it might suffice if your phone was in another room.....
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I'm sure the microphone is just fine.....

And the speakers on my iMac are a pair of Bose computer speakers. Far better than what's packed into my iPhone :p

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Robster3 said:
you can't help yourself :p
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I find it hilarious that you guys who are such huge fans/proponents of the "one fewer tap/swipe" are knocking/discounting the continuity features here.....

Do you not see the irony?
 
Seems like they are getting closer to what I want, Swiftkey keyboards and a larger screen, but still no "back key", Swypepad and the ability to hide all apps would keep me with my S5, I would also miss Google Now and don't recall a similar thing on the iPhone. Don't know how far back they will allow Yosemite to go, hoping it will be ok on my mid 2010 MBP.
 
daveathall said:
Seems like they are getting closer to what I want, Swiftkey keyboards and a larger screen, but still no "back key", Swypepad and the ability to hide all apps would keep me with my S5, I would also miss Google Now and don't recall a similar thing on the iPhone. Don't know how far back they will allow Yosemite to go, hoping it will be ok on my mid 2010 MBP.
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Today in the notification center does some things Google Now does. Siri does the other things Google Now does....

Also, Google Now for iOS does what Google Now does :D
 
jrswizzle said:
Today in the notification center does some things Google Now does. Siri does the other things Google Now does....

Also, Google Now for iOS does what Google Now does :D
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So, what you are saying is that iOS offers choice? Who woulda thunk:cool:
 
jrswizzle said:
But see, you're assuming I've said those things - I havent. And widgets as Apple has announced them are far different than the widgets of Android or live tiles. Now we can say a widget is a widget, but I think implementation is important.

You made my point though - thanks for lumping me in with trolling apple fans who whine about a feature and then hail it awesome when Apple adds it. If I do so, I make a point to show distinction in implementations.

I've also had plenty of good things to say about Android, and have on multiple occasions. Just iOS works best for my needs.

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Lol - all I try to do is make a distinction between feature and implementation....not specific to anything mind you, just as a general rule, and these yahoos go nuts.

Android had everything first. Nevermind there were mobile OSes before it which had features "first". I would say implementation plays a huge role and makes Android better/different.

But all these guys can yell is "first!"

It's really kinda sad and so predictable.
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kinda sad you try to wiggle out of this using yet again your bias. Implementation you said? What so difference in implementation? They are exact copying of Android. Direct reply from notification is exact copy. Allowing 3rd party keyboards is just catching up. Sharing api is direct copy as well.

No matter what apple is shameful and pathetic by copying openly and suing others using ridiculous rectangular and prior arts patents.

Lets hope more people will see apple shameful way. It is also a wake up call to some diehard apple fans that apple is not as innovative as they thought and Apple is no better than other companies wrt stealing ideas.
 
mib1800 said:
kinda sad you try to wiggle out of this using yet again your bias. Implementation you said? What so difference in implementation? They are exact copying of Android. Direct reply from notification is exact copy. Allowing 3rd party keyboards is just catching up. Sharing api is direct copy as well.

No matter what apple is shameful and pathetic by copying openly and suing others using ridiculous rectangular and prior arts patents.

Lets hope more people will see apple shameful way. It is also a wake up call to some diehard apple fans that apple is not as innovative as they thought and Apple is no better than other companies wrt stealing ideas.
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Its different. You have to go into the notification center to quick reply on Android.
 
mib1800 said:
kinda sad you try to wiggle out of this using yet again your bias. Implementation you said? What so difference in implementation? They are exact copying of Android. Direct reply from notification is exact copy. Allowing 3rd party keyboards is just catching up. Sharing api is direct copy as well.

No matter what apple is shameful and pathetic by copying openly and suing others using ridiculous rectangular and prior arts patents.

Lets hope more people will see apple shameful way. It is also a wake up call to some diehard apple fans that apple is not as innovative as they thought and Apple is no better than other companies wrt stealing ideas.
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Really? The API is exactly the same? I never used any quick reply on Android that worked exactly like what Apple showed.

Allowing third party keyboards isn't "an Android feature".....simply just something a platform does when its open. Which Android has always been. Even here we see differences because Apple is allowing this via their Extensions API which puts the keyboards in a highly sandboxed environment.....

So while the features are the same/similar, the implementation is very different. And that can be key.

Nothing Google did at last year's I/O was innovative either. Samsung didn't "innovate" with S-Health. There's always someone else (usually some small no-name company) that's done it "first". The big boys simply take the idea, put their massive weight behind it and make it better.

You're right, they all use the same/similar ideas. But "copy" implies identical implementations. Its just not fundamentally true. I'm sorry you're too blind to see it.
 
jamezr said:
not true...their are plenty of apps that let you do that.....
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So then Apple isn't "copying" Android, but some specific third party developer?

This happens everywhere. There are only so many features out there - someone has thought of it and used it at some point. But they couldn't do it to the level Apple has in iOS or the level Google could if they adopted it stock in Android (like Swype and a whole bunch of other keyboard features they borrowed from 3rd party devs).

Copy and innovation - two buzzwords used by people on both sides of this idiotic fan war, neither of which have any real meaning in that context.
 
Robster3 said:
You are better off just getting up and going and banging your head against a brick wall:)
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That's right, I forgot what I'm supposed to do with you....

:D & *nod*

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LIVEFRMNYC said:
I bet my iPad 2 will have almost no new features. :(
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I'm surprised they kept it around. Thought it was a goner for sure.....

Should really upgrade this go around - TouchID, likely more RAM, nice design....I'm planning on this 2014 rMini being my iPad for a long while.
 
jrswizzle said:
Today in the notification center does some things Google Now does. Siri does the other things Google Now does....

Also, Google Now for iOS does what Google Now does :D
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Really? Is it the default launcher? Can you swipe to the left and have all of your information displayed? Great if it does! I don't think it does everything like it does on an Android phone.
 
jamezr said:
Really? Is it the default launcher? Can you swipe to the left and have all of your information displayed? Great if it does! I don't think it does everything like it does on an Android phone.
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No, it doesn't do everything exactly like Android does - here we run into my implementation thing again. Makes a difference!

I wanna walk this through though if you don't mind - what info do you want displayed? What do you normally see/want to see in Google Now with that left swipe?

EDIT: Before we start - just a side note and something to ponder.....with the new extension API, Google Now could create a widget that is displayed in the notification center....perhaps they could create it with the same card layout as seen on Android. So you would effectively be able to swipe down from the lock or home screen and see that Google Now widget in the notification center - AND you could make it the top/only thing shown there.

Interesting to think about the possibilities of these new APIs.
 
jrswizzle said:
So then Apple isn't "copying" Android, but some specific third party developer?

This happens everywhere. There are only so many features out there - someone has thought of it and used it at some point. But they couldn't do it to the level Apple has in iOS or the level Google could if they adopted it stock in Android (like Swype and a whole bunch of other keyboard features they borrowed from 3rd party devs).

Copy and innovation - two buzzwords used by people on both sides of this idiotic fan war, neither of which have any real meaning in that context.
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Cmon now.......don't get me started.......That is not what was said.....
The very cool thing about Android is you can CHOOSE different apps on your phone. Apple is finally letting you CHOOSE to install a new keyboard.....after how many years of being able to do that on Android?? Now who is copying who? So lets not go there.......
 
jrswizzle said:
Well said jamezr - I agree. This desire to see something completely new every year is pointless. There's always SOMETHING that came before it. That's why I focus so much on implementation. That's where some key differences lie.

I'm really excited to see how the continuity features work. Hope I get into the OS X public beta. Already put iOS 8 on my iPad Air and am going to throw it on my 5C as well. It seems really stable so far (far more stable than iOS 7b1 - which wasn't terrible for me).

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I've already had an instance today where it would've been cool and useful to answer my phone on my mac. And if it work with your phone in another room? I'd think all you notification light guys would be drooling over that :D;)
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Im not real big on the LED light. To be honest, im not real sure which app has which color. If its blinking i just look at the notification bar anyways. I tried a couple of lockscreen apps and they just drain your battery so though the LED does not do that, its not that big a deal to have all that stuff. My phone is always with me so its not like im missing anything.
 
jrswizzle said:
Really? The API is exactly the same? I never used any quick reply on Android that worked exactly like what Apple showed.

Allowing third party keyboards isn't "an Android feature".....simply just something a platform does when its open. Which Android has always been. Even here we see differences because Apple is allowing this via their Extensions API which puts the keyboards in a highly sandboxed environment.....
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Just kid yourself that android dvm is not a sandboxed environment.


So while the features are the same/similar, the implementation is very different. And that can be key.

Nothing Google did at last year's I/O was innovative either. Samsung didn't "innovate" with S-Health. There's always someone else (usually some small no-name company) that's done it "first". The big boys simply take the idea, put their massive weight behind it and make it better.
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So why are you so negative to the point uselessnes of those features when apple didn't have them.

Now you are saying those are good features and Apple will do them better. you are just back pedalling and being a hypocrite.

You're right, they all use the same/similar ideas. But "copy" implies identical implementations. Its just not fundamentally true. I'm sorry you're too blind to see it.
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Galaxy S is not an identical of the iPhone but every apple fanboys said it was copying. You are the one blinded by your own clouded mind.
 
jrswizzle said:
No, it doesn't do everything exactly like Android does - here we run into my implementation thing again. Makes a difference!

I wanna walk this through though if you don't mind - what info do you want displayed? What do you normally see/want to see in Google Now with that left swipe?
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all of my information....my Google Maps searches and navigations....how long it will take me to go to/come home from work......My recent Google searches......suggestions from my Google + preferences.......those are just a few.....
EDIT: did you say a widget in IOS? WOW...didn't you poo poo that as a useless feature on Android devices? Now its a good feature on IOS? LOL!!!
 
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