Dang....if I got a 3GS I was going to jailbreak just for SBsettings
, so I wouldn't slow it down
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Speed of 3GS after jailbreak .
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Dang....if I got a 3GS I was going to jailbreak just for SBsettings
, so I wouldn't slow it downAll of the icons are stock, except the dock icons and dock, which are from Matte Nano. I also manually added all of the files for WeatherIcon files to springboard.app so I could theme Weathericon without Winterboard.
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I can say that I am rather surprised. I jailbroke my 3GS last night and there's no perceived slowdown at all. My 3G seemed a touch slow on certain transitions, etc. I installed Mobile Substrate and Winterboard but I applied my own created theme that changes Wallpaper, a few sounds, sliders and removes the dock background. Apps (in my observation on my device) open the same as they did when unjailbroken. Boot time seems the same as well. I'm pleasantly surprised there's no noticeable slowness, even tho the slowness on my "old" 3G was minimal at best.
Please. You'd think I was basing this on a single observation.
I've jailbroken every firmware since 1.1.1. Back in the Summberboard days, things were good - there may have been slowdown, but if there was, I certainly didn't notice it. That changed once the 3G was launched and 2.0 + WinterBoard hit the scene. I have jailbroken using PwnageTool numerous times. Every time, without exception, there was noticeable slowdown within a day or two. I have also jailbroken using QuickPwn, again, numerous times. Every time, without exception, there was noticeable slowdown within a day or two. When I sold my 3G two weeks ago, I installed 3.0 on it and used redsn0w to JB. Again, slowdown. Blatantly obvious slowdown. Now with my 3GS, 3.0 + purplera1n and once again? Yup.
Do you notice a recurring theme?
Numerous (as in innumerable, a multitude of, etc) jailbreaks using a variety of JB tools on a number of devices (I've jailbroken eight 3G's, two 1st gen iPod touches, three 2nd gen iPod touches, and now two 3GSs) and post-2.0 firmware, every single time, without exception, there has been quantifiable, blatantly obvious slowdown. EVERY TIME. So please don't sit there and act like my experience is a fluke, that I don't know what I'm talking about. I've probably had more experience jailbreaking than you and half of the people posting in this forum, combined. You may not like the facts, but the reality is that if you install MobileSubstrate and WinterBoard, your phone will be slower than if you don't install them. Period. It's not debatable, it doesn't vary from person to person. If you install MobileSubstrate and WinterBoard, your phone will be slower than if you don't install them. /thread
First off bragging about Jailbreaking experience? Jailbreaking has been pretty cake for a long time now, I'm pretty sure a monkey could do it at this point.
Second, of course if you have a ton of crap running in the background your iPhone will be slowed down. That same applies to all computers. Winterboard itself does not slow down the Iphone, its down to the theme you are using from what I have experienced. Mobile Substrate I have never run, but knowing that it runs in the background and what it is used for would sense as to slowing down your phone a bit. I think at this point people can use common sense and figure things out. This horse has been beat to death.
hmmmm....well on my jailbroken iPod Touch 2G, I'm running the Alit theme, SBsettings/winterboard both installed, and I compared the speed to my dad's 'vanilla' iPhone 3G (not jailbroken) [both devices are on 3.0] , and surprisingly, my dad's iPhone 3G is actually faster than my iPod Touch 2G , yet is has a slower processor than my iPod, very surprising....w/e I still love my jailbroken iPod
, yet is has a slower processor than my iPod, very surprising....w/e I still love my jailbroken iPod 
Nope. Try again.
I don't know of any on Cydia; I always just make my own. This is the one I made last night (and posted in that screenshot):
and without the reflections
Winterboard is a mobile substrate extension. So your statement that "Winterboard itself does not slow down the Iphone" is inconsistent with your statement that "Mobile Substrate I have never run, but knowing that it runs in the background and what it is used for would sense as to slowing down your phone a bit."
Install reflective dock in Cydia from david.ashman.com/apt and you'll get dock reflections.
If you've read my posts I've been talking about jailbreaking in general, as you have too seeing as you've mentioned 1.X Firmwares. The only difference in jailbreaking the 3gs vs other idevices is that it will run faster than on the other devices simply because the phone is faster.Wirelessly posted (iPhone 3GS (White, 32GB): Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7C97d Safari/528.16)
Wait a minute, let me get this straight. You're arguing with me about the performance of my two 3GS's in a thread specifically about the performance of the 3GS and yet you don't even have one? So in your opinion, conjecture trumps real-world, hands-on experience? That's interesting, and good to know. *
In any case, thanks for making me laugh, man.
Lag issues are purely luck of the draw, not a definite outcome everytime as you state.
Wirelessly posted (iPhone 3GS (White, 32GB): Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_0 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7A341 Safari/528.16)
There seems to be quite a bit of confusion in this thread. First there are claims that WinterBoard's
slowdowns have been observed firsthand on an iPhone that has never had MobileSubstrate installed, and then there are claims that the slowdowns are purely the result of bad luck, and nothing else. Just luck of the draw.
I think the only real, factual post has been Opie's YouTube video, which shows beyond the shadow of a doubt that the jailbroken iPhone running WB is marginally slower launching apps than the 'vanilla' one. Which, incidentally, is what I've been saying all along.
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There seems to be quite a bit of confusion in this thread. First there are claims that WinterBoard's
slowdowns have been observed firsthand on an iPhone that has never had MobileSubstrate installed, and then there are claims that the slowdowns are purely the result of bad luck, and nothing else. Just luck of the draw.
I think the only real, factual post has been Opie's YouTube video, which shows beyond the shadow of a doubt that the jailbroken iPhone running WB is marginally slower launching apps than the 'vanilla' one. Which, incidentally, is what I've been saying all along.
I know that I was looking for a dock shelf or background or whatever you want to call it. That is on cydia.
i agree that you can see the slowdown in the video, although it is only a small fraction of a second. What would be interesting to see, is how much that slowdown increases or decreases by adding and removing various common jailbreak apps + plugins. Is a jailbroken phone in mobilesubstrate safe-mode identical in speed to a stock 3GS? What about when you start applying winterboard themes, or adding more mobilesubstrate addons?
Maybe pick one app, where the difference is most notable, and try a few different scenarios. I would do it but i only have 1 iPhone 3GS
Maybe pick one app, where the difference is most notable, and try a few different scenarios. I would do it but i only have 1 iPhone 3GS
Nope. Try again.
I don't know of any on Cydia; I always just make my own. This is the one I made last night (and posted in that screenshot):
and without the reflections
Can you post the background from your screenshot please?
Should I JB the 3GS with dev team/purplera1n?
I heard that purplera1n has many loopholes/problems? Is that true?
Dev. team's JB will lag the phone more than purplera1n? Why is that so?
I don't know, but I can't wait to hear the answer to your question. I was thinking the same thing.
purplerain and redsnow both work fine..purplerain rc1 had problems but geohot updated those
Should I JB the 3GS with dev team/purplera1n?
I heard that purplera1n has many loopholes/problems? Is that true?
Dev. team's JB will lag the phone more than purplera1n? Why is that so?
Someone answer these questions!
Why did the discussion stop? It was very entertaining/informative to read all the previous posts... healthy debate and even a youtube video, I want more!
If you don't notice the slowdown then does it really matter?
One of the main reasons I got the GS was that it could power through any MS related slowdowns.
One of the main reasons I got the GS was that it could power through any MS related slowdowns.
I noticed a slow down too.
3GS 16GB.
Winterboard and a bunch of other stuff installed.
My space bar doesn't work very well when using TwitterFon.
3GS 16GB.
Winterboard and a bunch of other stuff installed.
My space bar doesn't work very well when using TwitterFon.
Nice video.
However, when doing comparisons, both devices need to be set up the same. Aside from comparing a 16GB to a 32GB model, there are some other issues that could affect the results of your test:
a. Different apps are loaded on each iPhone. Additionally apps like Photos have a different number of photos.
b. Apps used to test in different dock locations which can affect the outcome.
Any differences in the set up will affect the outcome. To do a speed test each device needs to be set up exactly the same.
Nonetheless, thanks for the video.
Agreed. It should be done with both iPhone restored from the same iTunes restore, with all the same apps and data on each one. I'd do it myself, but I don't think my wife would be too thrilled about me messing around with her iPhone all day.
Rule #1:I'd do it myself, but I don't think my wife would be too thrilled about me messing around with her iPhone all day.
Always keep the spousal unit happy.