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muzzy996

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On the one hand, the storage for my current 2018 iPad Pro (256G) is fine, and 8GB RAM will probably be sufficient for a long time

On the other hand, this iPad is so expensive that I would want to keep it for five years or more. I could see adding a ton of photos and media to the iPad and using it as my main "media storage" computer (my MacBook will remain at 512GB). That suggests a 1 TB 16GB RAM model may be merited.

The price difference is meaningful - $600

Anyone else struggling with this decision?
You’re less than 3 years into your current iPad Pro, you seem to have no complaints about its storage capacity or RAM limitations now (though we all can admit that upgrading to a 2021 will give you improvements over your 2018 related to RAM regardless of which you choose) and yet the next latest and greatest is here causing a purchase consideration. No judgement here, there are many of us who are excited about these new machines, but I agree with the sentiment that if you don’t need one right now just wait for the software to develop that takes advantage of the hardware differentiation. Certain apps will surely benefit from the additional RAM and if there are any on your radar then thats where you could focus your attention on to monitor their performance improvements in order to inform your purchase decision.

As for using an iPad as a main storage device to each his own but I wouldn’t; I just went through a pain in the arse situation with my wife’s Air 4 which decided not to recognize her passcode, forcing a complete wipe. She hadn’t changed her passcode recently, is the only one with physical access to the ipad, and multiple attempts to use the correct passcode were in vain. About the only thing I could think of is perhaps something had happened during auto update to 14.5. In any case it was no big deal for us since our family is on a large iCloud storage plan but the lesson was to expect the unexpected.
 

jmgregory1

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The big if on the 16gb of ram, is whether Apple does anything with iPadOS that can even use that amount of ram. If the M1 in the iPP behaves similarly to the MBA/MBP/Mac mini, and swaps memory as needed, there is far less need for 16gb of ram. I have to assume Apple has some plans to more fully utilize the M1 going forward, including getting developers to build their apps so they more fully use the performance potential. In the short term, I’m guessing the 8gb is going to be more than plenty for most people and applications.
 

AVBeatMan

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I pretty much decided on the storage. I’m currently using 170 of my 256GB. Most of that is movies and TV shows that I could easily remove so don’t think I need more than 256.

The thing I’m struggling with is WiFi only or the cellular model. I always buy cellular but have hardly ever used it. Easy decision then you might think…but…will I regret getting the WiFi only model? I don’t travel much apart from the odd weekend away and then won’t be working. WiFi is available virtually everywhere so why is this decision driving me nuts?! Any advice?
 

Xak444

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I’ve made peace with my decision to wait for the M3 16GB 1TB variant next year. Why because at WWDC Apple will show the XDR M1 iPad Pro running BigSur. And by next year the M2 chips will be old news for A May 2022 iPad Pro release.
iPad Pro isn’t running Big Sur ever. Not saying iPad won’t run macOS ever but it won’t be Big Sur they do it with.
 
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jmgregory1

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I agree, and I don't think Apple ever wants it to. I do think we may start to see "light" versions of the pro apps running on iPad OS, and even port over to the Mac if they will do the job as you can now on Big Sur. Otherwise the full pro app will be available on your Mac system back at the office or studio or even your hotel room later on your MBP. And some users will be happy with just a iPad Pro plus a dock, monitor etc and using the iOS apps but iPad plus Mac will be the ultimate use case.
I would be willing to bet that what M1 on iPad Pro will allow isn’t “light” versions of desktop / laptop MacOS apps, but rather full performance versions that simply take advantage of the iPP’s multiple touch input options.
 

LogicalApex

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Apple is making this decision a bit easier for most of us. Waiting until WWDC and seeing what, if anything, is announced that might make the spec decisions clearer. At present spending $600 for 1TB & 16GB on a prayer that the iPad gets features that make those choices useful in more than a few very niche cases is very risky. With general availability only been about 18 days or so ahead of WWDC it seems prudent to just wait it out.

Either decision can be hard to swallow long term. Shelling out an extra $600 that goes to waste when you could have saved the money for something actually useful or seeing Apple drop some bombshell that makes you need to shift your stance.

I think the 8GB will be a solid choice for many and likely everyone. It is certainly a solid choice unless Apple unveils something radical at WWDC and even then I expect it will be a while before it is an issue since the iPad from last year is only a 6GB device.
 

Hunter5117

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For 2500 dollars though, you could buy a base model iPad pro 12.9” and a Mac Mini with 16GB Ram, still have 700 dollars, and be covered both ways… the cost doesn’t make sense.
Sure there are many options for those dollars. I already have 2 MBP's the newest a 16" 1tb model. Plus a desktop. It seems obvious that Apple is signaling that something new and big is coming for iPad Pro, why else would they make them available with basically the same ram and storage as the M1 model MBP and Mini? Otherwise, for just "iPad stuff" a much lower ram and storage works just fine assuming you have some sort of cloud storage. The high cost only makes sense if this is the first version of something new and highly desirable for a number of people.
 

Hunter5117

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I would be willing to bet that what M1 on iPad Pro will allow isn’t “light” versions of desktop / laptop MacOS apps, but rather full performance versions that simply take advantage of the iPP’s multiple touch input options.
It might be. IMHO FCP, Logic, Motion etc are such deep and rich programs that I dont know how practical it would be to try and do the whole thing on even a 12.9" iPad. The touchpad interface does have some advantages in very fast moving and mobile situations where you might want to prepare rushes or rough edits while riding in a car or something like that. I don't see you doing serious color matching or sound editing on anything but a studio setup under controlled lighting and acoustics. Plus I don't see Apple offering 2 distinct 100% professional options on 2 different platforms, I can see them wanting the IPP to fill a hole and offer new options in the existing eco-system.
 

rui no onna

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Sure there are many options for those dollars. I already have 2 MBP's the newest a 16" 1tb model. Plus a desktop. It seems obvious that Apple is signaling that something new and big is coming for iPad Pro, why else would they make them available with basically the same ram and storage as the M1 model MBP and Mini? Otherwise, for just "iPad stuff" a much lower ram and storage works just fine assuming you have some sort of cloud storage. The high cost only makes sense if this is the first version of something new and highly desirable for a number of people.

I wouldn't really count on price being an indicator of functionality. The big price jump came in 2018 and there weren't really any drastic software changes then.

M1's just A14X/Z branded differently. There's more changes from A10X to A12X/Z than A12Z to M1. The RAM though, is unusually high for Apple.

2017 iPad Pro 12.9

Wi-Fi models:
64 GB – US$799
256 GB – US$899
512 GB – US$1,099

Wi-Fi + Cellular models:
64 GB – US$929
256 GB – US$1,029
512 GB – US$1,229


2018 iPad Pro 12.9

Wi-Fi models:
64 GB – US$999
256 GB – US$1,149
512 GB – US$1,349
1024 GB – US$1,749

Wi-Fi + Cellular models:
64 GB – US$1,149
256 GB – US$1,299
512 GB – US$1,499
1024 GB – US$1,899


2021 iPad Pro 12.9

Wi-Fi models:
128 GB – US$1,099
256 GB – US$1,199
512 GB – US$1,399
1024 GB – US$1,799
2048 GB – US$$2,199

Wi-Fi + Cellular models:
128 GB – US$1,299
256 GB – US$1,399
512 GB – US$1,599
1024 GB – US$1,999
2048 GB – US$2,399
 

Digitalguy

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FCPX works fine on 8GB of RAM.
Yes and I would add that there is no way that Apple is making FCP available only on the M1 pro. This would restrict too much who can subscribe to it. My guess is that the iPad air and 4GB RAM devices in general will be the entry point (with the iPad 8 and mini being excluded). Which does not mean that some other things may not be exclusive to M1, but any M1, not just 16GG devices). 16GB is more of a bonus for those who need high storage and a way to incentivize those storage tiers...
 

neutrino23

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Like most here I have been struggling with this. I finally decided to go with 8GB / 512GB. 8GB is much more than previous iPads had so this should be good for years to come. I only hit the 256GB storage limit I currently have when I am careless about not deleting already viewed content. I may change some usage in the near future so 512GB will be good for years to come. Plus it is getting easier to work with either cloud storage or physical storage.
 
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Digitalguy

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I'll just put it this way: I've never heard anyone express regret that they went with more memory or storage, but I have heard people express regret with going with less memory and storage. Even if it's just psychological, as long as you can afford it, just go for it so you don't have buyer's remorse. If you have to have an iPad NOW and the price difference is going to endanger your finances, then of course go with the most you can afford.
Mmh... If I follow your reasoning, since I can easily afford the 2TB device (and more), that's what I should get...
Don't get me wrong, it's good to have some room to spare, so if you are unsure between 128 and 256 because you currently use say 100 , do get 256, but going up to 1 or even 2 TB if your current use is 10 times less becomes like buying a big van instead of a regular car in case one day I meet someone, get married and have many children... By the time that happens there will be much better iPads around...
 

usagora

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Mmh... If I follow your reasoning, since I can easily afford the 2TB device (and more), that's what I should get...
Don't get me wrong, it's good to have some room to spare, so if you are unsure between 128 and 256 because you currently use say 100 , do get 256, but going up to 1 or even 2 TB if your current use is 10 times less becomes like buying a big van instead of a regular car in case one day I meet someone, get married and have many children... By the time that happens there will be much better iPads around...

My reasoning is if you're debating between 2 options and can afford either, then go with the higher option. I'm not saying if you're debating between 512 and 1TB to go for 2TB. I'm saying go for 1TB. Etc. This is assuming you've put a lot of thought into it and still can't decide (hand-wringing stage).
 
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gusping

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$600 pays for over half of another 12.9" iPad PRo within 5 years. So cross that bridge when you come to it.

Or like the person above me said, wait until WWDC to even buy a new iPad in case new iPad features might influence your decision.
Couldn't agree more. I think the M1 name is causing confusion and it's just an A14X underneath (which it is when you step back). I am fully expecting a very underwhelming iPad OS WWDC reveal, with the main update being widgets on the home screen. I've been following Apple long enough to know they aren't doing anything radical just yet.
 

rui no onna

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$600 pays for over half of another 12.9" iPad PRo within 5 years. So cross that bridge when you come to it.

Or like the person above me said, wait until WWDC to even buy a new iPad in case new iPad features might influence your decision.

Fun backtest for 5 years. :p

 

Digitalguy

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My reasoning is if you're debating between 2 options and can afford either, then go with the higher option. I'm not saying if you're debating between 512 and 1TB to go for 2TB. I'm saying go for 1TB. Etc. This is assuming you've put a lot of thought into it and still can't decide (hand-wringing stage).
Now we are saying the same thing ?
 
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rui no onna

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My reasoning is if you're debating between 2 options and can afford either, then go with the higher option. I'm not saying if you're debating between 512 and 1TB to go for 2TB. I'm saying go for 1TB. Etc. This is assuming you've put a lot of thought into it and still can't decide (hand-wringing stage).

I had this dilemma with the 2018 and 2020 Pros. Given the hardware changes from the 2017 Pro, I wasn't comfortable spending the $1.8-2.1K for the 1TB cellular model but I knew I was going to seriously regret going down to 512GB.

Ended up just waffling until a bigger upgrade came along and I'm quite happy to see the hardware upgrades were better than I had expected. ?

If I was just going for entry level, I'd probably upgrade more often but depreciation's really bad with storage and cellular upgrades.
 
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iBighouse

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With my edu discount and my iPad trade-in, it seems I can get the 1TB/16GB WiFi configuration for $60 less than the retail price of the 512GB model. Should I just go for it?
 

rui no onna

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With my edu discount and my iPad trade-in, it seems I can get the 1TB/16GB WiFi configuration for $60 less than the retail price of the 512GB model. Should I just go for it?

That means you can probably get the 512GB for around $800-ish.

Personally going for 1TB even at full MSRP. :D
 

thefourthpope

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the 12.9" iPP is a tad more expensive than a standard tablet, and with an M1 much much faster than before... It's basically a MBA in a different form factor now. I expect to be able to run some heavy workloads for that capability and price, which may need the RAM, and I don't need that much disk space. It's a raw deal to tie the extra 8GB of RAM to a $600 increase (more because of sales taxes) on an already expensive device. I was all set to pre-order tomorrow until I saw that, now I'll probably wait and see
I’m wait and see on the software. As you say, for what we’re potentially purchasing for the 16/1, there needs to be some work getting done on the machine.
 
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