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thefourthpope

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The only reason you’d need more than 8GB of Ram in an iPad is if it was running new programs; not currently available. If you design new programs for something that requires more than 8GB of Ram, your market is very small(only 1TB and over 5th gen. iPad Pros).

I would say, keep the 600 dollars, and wait for what comes next… buy devices for today with the chance of a good tomorrow… Don’t plan on the future… and that 600 dollars can grow way more than the 8GBs of extra Ram in your iPad.
I don’t really know how RAM gets allocated. If a new OS supports greater background/multitasking, would current programs be able to eat up more RAM, perhaps over 8GB?
 

rui no onna

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I think it's little naive to plan your purchase based on a thinking that the device will last 5 years. Crap happens and things break even when you baby it. Just buy what you need for the near future.

That's what AppleCare+ is for.

Mind, we still have a 2014 Air 2 and 2016 Pro 9.7 in active use in our household. Two of my primary use iPads are 2017 Pros (so 4 years old). I hate working on the Air 2 now but with later models, I think 5 years of good performance is perfectly doable.
 
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teohyc

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On the one hand, the storage for my current 2018 iPad Pro (256G) is fine, and 8GB RAM will probably be sufficient for a long time

On the other hand, this iPad is so expensive that I would want to keep it for five years or more. I could see adding a ton of photos and media to the iPad and using it as my main "media storage" computer (my MacBook will remain at 512GB). That suggests a 1 TB 16GB RAM model may be merited.

The price difference is meaningful - $600

Anyone else struggling with this decision?
Why spend money to buy another tablet that will do exactly the same things your current iPad Pro can do?

Apple marketing is amazing.
 
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doboy

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That's what AppleCare+ is for.

Mind, we still have a 2014 Air 2 and 2016 Pro 9.7 in active use in our household. Two of my primary use iPads are 2017 Pros (so 4 years old). I hate working on the Air 2 now but with later models, I think 5 years of good performance is perfectly doable.
I guess now that you can continue to buy AC+ past the initial 2 years helps. I wasn’t saying you couldn’t use it for 5 years, but it can break or get lost well before that. Having said that, will it be enjoyable to use in 5 years? ;)
 

rui no onna

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I guess now that you can continue to buy AC+ past the initial 2 years helps. I wasn’t saying you couldn’t use it for 5 years, but it can break or get lost well before that. Having said that, will it be enjoyable to use in 5 years? ;)

From experience with lower end or older iPads, I'd say yes. On the 2017 A10X/4GB, my main gripe is RAM and not CPU speed. 8GB might be cutting it close after 5 years but I expect 16GB will still be comfortable.
 
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iBighouse

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I think it's little naive to plan your purchase based on a thinking that the device will last 5 years. Crap happens and things break even when you baby it. Just buy what you need for the near future.
I just checked the manufacture date on my current ipad pro 12.9. It’s over 5 years old.
 
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LogicalApex

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I pushed my iPad Air to 7 years. It was barely usable in the end though. Very slow and missing a lot of newer features and updates. 5 years is the upper bound for sure.
 

Digitalguy

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I guess now that you can continue to buy AC+ past the initial 2 years helps. I wasn’t saying you couldn’t use it for 5 years, but it can break or get lost well before that. Having said that, will it be enjoyable to use in 5 years? ;)
Not in every country and not in mine. So you make a point, if you drop your maxed out iPad pro after AC+ expires you are out $2000
 

Digitalguy

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If AC+ has expired and I dropped a 2K iPad I would just claim off my house insurance that’s covers accident damaged
Well I am not sure about this, but I have some doubts that my house insurance would cover this kind of accidental damage, maybe I should read the contract more closely....
 

Apple Mac Daz

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Well I am not sure about this, but I have some doubts that my house insurance would cover this kind of accidental damage, maybe I should read the contract more closely....

in the UK you can cover contents with accidental cover for a slight increase over standard contents. Covers TV, Laptops etc
 

Digitalguy

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in the UK you can cover contents with accidental cover for a slight increase over standard contents
Interesting, I guess there is some sort of franchise (if that's the word in English...) but worth having if you have expensive devices
 

rui no onna

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I pushed my iPad Air to 7 years. It was barely usable in the end though. Very slow and missing a lot of newer features and updates. 5 years is the upper bound for sure.

A8X/2GB is when longevity gets better. The A9X notches it up quite a bit more with around desktop Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge level.

I think there were some years where we saw (almost) double the performance on Apple chipsets. I believe that's actually slowed down to around 20-30% YOY of late.

The 6-year old 2015 iPad Pro and 4-year old 2017 iPad Pro still perform quite decently right now even if lacking in some features.
 

LogicalApex

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A8X/2GB is when longevity gets better. The A9X notches it up quite a bit more with around desktop Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge level.

I think there were some years where we saw (almost) double the performance on Apple chipsets. I believe that's actually slowed down to around 20-30% YOY of late.

The 6-year old 2015 iPad Pro and 4-year old 2017 iPad Pro still perform quite decently right now even if lacking in some features.

It was a lower storage model too so you have additionally some SSD wear leveling that complicates matters in terms of longevity. You'll get SSD slowdown in the 7 year time horizon which will be more pronounced on lower storage sizes than on larger ones and it is a lot harder to discern if the iPad is slow because the CPU is now stretched or if it is SSD wear or battery aging.

7 years was a good run though!
 

rui no onna

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It was a lower storage model too so you have additionally some SSD wear leveling that complicates matters in terms of longevity. You'll get SSD slowdown in the 7 year time horizon which will be more pronounced on lower storage sizes than on larger ones and it is a lot harder to discern if the iPad is slow because the CPU is now stretched or if it is SSD wear or battery aging.

7 years was a good run though!

If the SSD does proper garbage collection, it shouldn't be slowing down due to wear. Alas, SSDs do slow down when they're filled and one's more likely to have a 16-32GB iPad full than a 1-2TB one.

Due to how SSDs work (basically like internal RAID-0), higher storage tiers tend to be faster than lower ones, too, at least until they get bandwidth bottlenecked. Apart from benchmarks, I remember doing some real world testing on the iPhone 7 32GB and 256GB. The 256GB model was noticeably faster installing large apps and app updates.
 

AttilaTheHun

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I'll just put it this way: I've never heard anyone express regret that they went with more memory or storage, but I have heard people express regret with going with less memory and storage. Even if it's just psychological, as long as you can afford it, just go for it so you don't have buyer's remorse. If you have to have an iPad NOW and the price difference is going to endanger your finances, then of course go with the most you can afford.
You are right more memory it's better but if the price is way high stay with what you need
 

Mac407

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I’m currently using 67 gigs on my 2018 iPad, my iPhone uses 191gigs with 110 of that being photos. Initially ordered the 256gig iPad , but now I’m having second thoughts on maybe I should spend the extra money on the 512gb?
 

iBighouse

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Well, when I tried to add the 1TB model to my cart, it said the item wasn't available, and I did so just a minute after the orders started...not sure if I could have done so if I tried again, but since I was on the fence about it anyway, I was able to add the 512GB model. I doubt I'd ever really have the need for 16GB of RAM, let alone 1TB of storage- and may not even need the 512GB of SSD, but I'm happy with my choice.
 
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maflynn

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Initially ordered the 256gig iPad , but now I’m having second thoughts on maybe I should spend the extra money on the 512gb?
I'd stick with your current selection for a couple of reasons.
1. you'll lose your place in line, and the latest delivery dates are in July - not sure when you ordered yours but if you did it as soon as the orders opened up, that's a major delay.
2. Your current usage is such that 512GB is over kill. Even if you put everything that's on your phone on your iPad you still have more then enough storage. Also you can leverage iCloud storage if you wish to alleviate the storage and/or external storage.
 
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prospervic

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I'd stick with your current selection for a couple of reasons.
1. you'll lose your place in line, and the latest delivery dates are in July - not sure when you ordered yours but if you did it as soon as the orders opened up, that's a major delay.
2. Your current usage is such that 512GB is over kill. Even if you put everything that's on your phone on your iPad you still have more then enough storage. Also you can leverage iCloud storage if you wish to alleviate the storage and/or external storage.
I’m currently using 67 gigs on my 2018 iPad, my iPhone uses 191gigs with 110 of that being photos. Initially ordered the 256gig iPad , but now I’m having second thoughts on maybe I should spend the extra money on the 512gb?
Rather than canceling your order, after receiving it you could take it to the Apple store for exchange. If none are in your area, you request an RMA from Apple to ship it back at no cost.
 

Mac407

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I'd stick with your current selection for a couple of reasons.
1. you'll lose your place in line, and the latest delivery dates are in July - not sure when you ordered yours but if you did it as soon as the orders opened up, that's a major delay.
2. Your current usage is such that 512GB is over kill. Even if you put everything that's on your phone on your iPad you still have more then enough storage. Also you can leverage iCloud storage if you wish to alleviate the storage and/or external storage.
Rather than canceling your order, after receiving it you could take it to the Apple store for exchange. If none are in your area, you request an RMA from Apple to ship it back at no cost.
I was able to get the may 21st-28th delivery. I might just keep with what I have ordered initially. But I never thought of this before, I do have several apple stores in my area, they would let me exchange it on launch for a higher model when new orders have ship dates in July?
 

prospervic

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Usually Apple stores have stock on the same day product arrives for home delivery. But I'd advise getting there way early.
 
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