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At my old High School, the computer related subjects were more or less controlled by a Windows lover, and Mac hater. We did use both macs and PCs in his class so I can't complain too much (Hypercard & stuff like that) but I did happen to bear the brunt of many anti Mac jokes when I was doing Computer Studies in year 9 and 10. Probably had something to do with being the son of my Mac loving father who also works in the same department. Which was kind of interesting being the only mac user in a reasonably large class. Especially when my best friend started bringing in 'hack' programs with which to remotely screw with other people's computers. He also started making programs that when opened just sat invisibly in the background for a set time before 'exploding', at which point would start spamming messages to every computer on the network as fast as it could before the person realised what was happening and forced the program to quit using control-alt-delete and task manager. It isn't hard to realise just how much daily chaos this caused, along with everyone else's disinterest in what was being taught, people prefering to play games in the background.
Later, this teacher got transferred to another school, leaving the computer department in the hands of two Mac lovers. Unfortunately, the two lots of Apple computers had already been shunted to obscure parts of the school, rather than right underneath the noses of people in the computers staff room. There is even a nice large glass window between the computer rooms and staff room.
Now you would think that this would mean the Macs would be moved back to the main two computer rooms, and the Windows boxes condemned to small holes aroud the school. But no. My dad and his work colleague enjoy sitting up in their office overseeing the students. They also particularly enjoy using little 'hacks' that they find to eg. remotely log off the computer of a student who is obviously not doing school work.
See? Who says Macs are toys now? Windows boxes (as I like to call them, as Macs are PCs too, always were and always will) are good for something.
I don't see anything like that happening on a Mac. I suppose you could very easily make some insanely annoying Applescripts, for example a simple 4 line program that tells the computer to shut down, which is placed in the "startup items" folder, or a program that creates 100 new folders. But all in all, you can't do any serious damage with Applescripts. And then there's "Fool Proof" which foils anything anyway.
Think how boring Computer Studies would be without Windows? So yeah. That's my story. Windows is a toy operating system. And proving something isn't a toy by saying it needs lots of maintenance is just peculiar logic.
Later, this teacher got transferred to another school, leaving the computer department in the hands of two Mac lovers. Unfortunately, the two lots of Apple computers had already been shunted to obscure parts of the school, rather than right underneath the noses of people in the computers staff room. There is even a nice large glass window between the computer rooms and staff room.
Now you would think that this would mean the Macs would be moved back to the main two computer rooms, and the Windows boxes condemned to small holes aroud the school. But no. My dad and his work colleague enjoy sitting up in their office overseeing the students. They also particularly enjoy using little 'hacks' that they find to eg. remotely log off the computer of a student who is obviously not doing school work.
See? Who says Macs are toys now? Windows boxes (as I like to call them, as Macs are PCs too, always were and always will) are good for something.
I don't see anything like that happening on a Mac. I suppose you could very easily make some insanely annoying Applescripts, for example a simple 4 line program that tells the computer to shut down, which is placed in the "startup items" folder, or a program that creates 100 new folders. But all in all, you can't do any serious damage with Applescripts. And then there's "Fool Proof" which foils anything anyway.
Think how boring Computer Studies would be without Windows? So yeah. That's my story. Windows is a toy operating system. And proving something isn't a toy by saying it needs lots of maintenance is just peculiar logic.
I just ignore him. Besides, I have a much nicer time on my MBP in photoshop class than he does on the computer lab filled with 700MHz Celerons with 256MB of RAM running xp pro, so that makes up for his idiotic comments on my Mac.
Oh, you might be surprised.
When I was in grade 10-11, we were using a computer lab full of Mac LC's. There was a program called "Radiation" which was installed as a system extension as well as a client program. Essentially it let you pop up a system dialog, with a bomb icon (or any other standard Mac dialog icon), and put in whatever text you wanted.The program was called "Radiation" because the default dialog message would say something like "Warning: radiation levels from your monitor have reached dangerously high levels. Please step away from the computer."
Being the mature, sensitive boys that we were, we would tease the gullible-looking girls...
lol at my school we used to have powermac 7300's (along time ago) and then everything was windows and it still is and all the time the server is shutting down and the printers wont print and im like hahah ive got a mac. people are like o i dont want a mac it would take a long time to learn to use, and i am laughing. 
silly pc users and their old school os. I hate how on all of those interviews on cnn and stuff about vista, bill gates is like, o well we are ahead of apple and every day people create viruses for mac but pc is completely secure, i wanted to smash his face in. lol
silly pc users and their old school os. I hate how on all of those interviews on cnn and stuff about vista, bill gates is like, o well we are ahead of apple and every day people create viruses for mac but pc is completely secure, i wanted to smash his face in. lol 
I remember when i first started school, we were using Powermac 5500's and the such, for about 2 months. Then in 1998 we got iMacs.
In 2002, the iMacs were retired for PC's. Don't know why, because our school had been using Apple's since the IIe... Guess they got a better deal on priceing...
In 2002, the iMacs were retired for PC's. Don't know why, because our school had been using Apple's since the IIe... Guess they got a better deal on priceing...
Education costs!In 2002, the iMacs were retired for PC's. Don't know why, because our school had been using Apple's since the IIe... Guess they got a better deal on priceing...
Generally, most school systems have very limited budgets and are very budget conscious. So they must get the best deal possible at the time.
Here's some more computer idiots I've run into.
I'm looking up the vocab words for a test and my teacher was in contradiction with the dictionary.
me: "The Oxford dictionary says that it means this, and that's what I put." (whiles showing her the word on my MBP)
another student: "It's those Apples, they're always wrong."
me: "It's the Oxford dictionary..."
the same student: "but it runs on Apples so it's wrong."
idiot
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I remember when i first started school, we were using Powermac 5500's and the such, for about 2 months. Then in 1998 we got iMacs.
In 2002, the iMacs were retired for PC's. Don't know why, because our school had been using Apple's since the IIe... Guess they got a better deal on priceing...
When I was in high school we had Apple IIe's................ yikes.
Wow, talk about someone who knows very little about computers!Here's some more computer idiots I've run into.
I'm looking up the vocab words for a test and my teacher was in contradiction with the dictionary.
me: "The Oxford dictionary says that it means this, and that's what I put." (whiles showing her the word on my MBP)
another student: "It's those Apples, they're always wrong."
me: "It's the Oxford dictionary..."
the same student: "but it runs on Apples so it's wrong."
idiot
when my friends ask why i switched i simply say "remember that month when i installed XP on my laptop 17 times?" then they say "oh ya... good move" and it wasnt 17 time because i dont know what im doing (i went to school for computer admin and then repairing them) i just got sick of paying to learn how to repair something that shouldnt be needing THAT much attention
Also i was in best buy and the computer salesman was selling a mac and said this about a MBP
Customer: i like the mac and all but i need windows for work
SA: oh well then you need another computer
Customer: riiiight.... what about this one button mouse?
SA: Macs dont need 2
Customer: ok can i actually talk to someone who knows something about the product?
Me: Hey, I used to work at a best buy and i own a mac. how may i help you?
Also i was in best buy and the computer salesman was selling a mac and said this about a MBP
Customer: i like the mac and all but i need windows for work
SA: oh well then you need another computer
Customer: riiiight.... what about this one button mouse?
SA: Macs dont need 2
Customer: ok can i actually talk to someone who knows something about the product?
Me: Hey, I used to work at a best buy and i own a mac. how may i help you?
spoken by morons.
without learning something first, how can it be taught?
isnt teaching DOING something thats probably far better than the job the person(s) who say this quote? I think so.
well.. lets see.
i am a professional web designer, i enjoy my work, and i get a great feeling of accomplishment.
if YOU think handing out mis-information to students you hate is better than a well paying job you enjoy, be my guest to go become a purveyor of all that "Teachers Edition" has to offer.
i am a professional web designer, i enjoy my work, and i get a great feeling of accomplishment.
if YOU think handing out mis-information to students you hate is better than a well paying job you enjoy, be my guest to go become a purveyor of all that "Teachers Edition" has to offer.
Oh, you might be surprised.
Don't forget "Melt" for OS 7/8, which would make the video seem to melt to the bottom of the screen, or the program that would make the screen shrink by 1 pixel row/ column all the way 'round each time the computer was restarted....
Ah, the good old days.
wth are you talking about?
someone who says "Those who can, do. Those who cant, teach" is trying to belittle the teaching profession. Which is a ridiculous notion to say the least.
so, you had a bad teacher who knows jack about Apple, does that make his career choice any less worthy?
NO, it makes that person a bad computer teacher if anything at all.
spoken by morons.
without learning something first, how can it be taught?
isnt teaching DOING something thats probably far better than the job the person(s) who say this quote? I think so.
I think you missed the point. There's a difference between theoretical or "book" knowledge and the ability to actually use use that knowledge to solve problems. The quote is claiming that teachers can't actually solve problems in the real world with their knowledge, so they teach instead. I'm not saying I agree with the quote, but that's what it means.
I never said I had a bad computer teacher. i never mentioned computer teachers.. you said "isnt teaching DOING something thats probably far better than the job the person(s) who say this quote?"
i simply told you what *I* do for a living, and asked if being a teacher sounds like its "better".
define better?
it is my experience that in most cases teachers are never fully qualified or trained for whatever it is they are teaching, and instead they rely on what little experience they have (possibly from the teaching itself) and the course materials to carry them through their career.
i simply told you what *I* do for a living, and asked if being a teacher sounds like its "better".
define better?
it is my experience that in most cases teachers are never fully qualified or trained for whatever it is they are teaching, and instead they rely on what little experience they have (possibly from the teaching itself) and the course materials to carry them through their career.
-Folks
"Macs are toys"
"Windoze"
"those who can, do,those who can't, teach!"
As humans, we all have a propensity to try to feel better than some others, this forum is rife with it, heck, that's what this thread is about.
There is enough of it about without digging into each other.
If I may suggest, can we bury the hatchet on the teaching conversation and get back to abusing just stupid PC users?
"Macs are toys"
"Windoze"
"those who can, do,those who can't, teach!"
As humans, we all have a propensity to try to feel better than some others, this forum is rife with it, heck, that's what this thread is about.
There is enough of it about without digging into each other.
If I may suggest, can we bury the hatchet on the teaching conversation and get back to abusing just stupid PC users?
sorry you had such lousy teachers.
here is my PC story along with a bad teaching experience:
freshmen year of high school, first class, Computer Applications. which was about 30 Mac Classics all networked.
they were running system 6, and were locked out in the sense you couldnt change anything, names, files, etc, except in your own folder on the network. you couldnt rename the HD or any files....
my friend and I realized if you put in a disk, clicked to change its name and then click the HD to change its name, it would let you!
so we changed EVERY computer HD's name to something obscene and childish, it was high school, gimme a break.
this was on a friday.
monday comes and the teacher sits me and my friend down, grabs our disk (which was just a 3.5" disk i had lying around) and says:
"WHATS ON THE BOOT SECTOR!!!!?"
he goes on to explain he spent the entire weekend trying to rename the HDs and he couldnt do it.
we showed him how we did it, in 10s and he was floored.
the rest of the semester we all just played Net Trek, Sim City and Othello, NOT a single piece of schoolwork got done, because he had been humiliated by "lowly students" who shouldnt know more than the teacher.
another story, same setup, was that apparently Mac Classics have 2 buttons on the side, one resets it the other does NOTHING....until you press it while starting up.
we would restart the computer(s) and immediately press the (what we called) "Drunk Button" which caused the screen to invert to black with a very sad and dead looking mac icon.
"OH MY GOD NOW THEY'RE ALL DOING IT!? WHATS GOING ON!?" he said. We did this every day at the end of class bell to at least 5 machines.
he quit/fired that year.
fast forward a couple of years.
my mother, who teaches at a different high school, tells me "you remember your teacher Mr. XXXXXX ? hes our schoolwide IT guy"
I almost died laughing.
he still has that job to this day, and from what my mom tells me, he truly is an idiot.
last year in college(Computer college none the less) before i bought my Mac one of my friends who already had one was having problems with the network and internet as was I, but i didnt say anything. turns out that the admins were fiddiling with something and there was a sign saying something about the MAC and under neath in small writing 'Media Access Control' and shes went nuts saying that its unfair that the internet is down for her computer and not mine and that she cant get her work done and so on. then i turned on my computer as did one of our friends and showed her that ours were down too and just read the sign. after that she still didnt belive us and complained to someone in the IT dept. who asked her "why do YOU own a Mac if you dont know this stuff?
lol, i was just at futureshop and there was a sweet old 2nd gen ipod for 30$ in the openbox display and so i asked about it and the dude said o that was my friends i dont think it works and then he kept saying i wouldnt recomend getting it and i was like i just want to see it and he wouldnt open the case, so w/e then i said o do you have the orange shuffle and he said o dont buy a shuffle they are unreliable, and they dont hold alot of songs and he told me all apple products are crap, and i said, i have a 30gb video i just want a shuffle for sports cause they are flash based, and the video has a hard drive in it, and he was denying that the apple video ipod had a hdd in it. it turned out that they didnt even have the new shuffles and he was like o they are so backed up and they will be awhile and i was just at walmart and they had all of the new shuffles except orange so i told him this and he walked away.
