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SkyBell

macrumors 604
Sep 7, 2006
6,606
226
Texas, unfortunately.
Yesterday my teacher bought a laptop with Windows Vista. She came up to me in school today with a couple of questions. This is basically how the conversation went:

teacher: "I got a new computer with that "veesta" thing! It's a Gateway laptop. Anyway, I got it on and I don't know what to do. They said it has Norton 60-day trial on it and I bought MS Office 2007 but I don't know how to get any programs running. It's really confusing."

me: "Well, you have to go to the start menu, which I think is now a spherical button, and find the program or put the CD in."

teacher: "I don't know how to do that so I'll bring it in tomorrow and have you show me."

me: "By the way, did you ever think about getting a mac? They're much easier to use and MS Office is made for mac."

teacher: "Oh, those apples? I hate those."

me: "Why?"

teacher: "I tried one of those 3 years ago and I didn't understand it."

I had to re-read that one to understand it. That's about as close to irony (maybe not) as I've heard on this thread so far.
-Cassie

Actually, there's a double-meaning with using the "X" as historically UNIX OS's have had an x in the name: Linux, AIX, AUX, etc. So by saying OS X one is saying both the roman numeral for "10", and speaking to the UNIX underpinnings.

I wish they didn't call in OS X 10.x.x, and stuck with the original numbering convention of OS X 1.x, 2.x, etc.

So.... it can be pronounced "ex"?
 

BilltheCat

macrumors regular
Jan 14, 2007
243
0
Sanford FL
I keep being told by viscious PC only types that Bill Gates "owns" Apple anyway and just keeps it around to forstall any Gibbamint monopoly problems!

He 'bought' Apple for 150 million dollars!

(seems like a good deal for gates!}
 

SkyBell

macrumors 604
Sep 7, 2006
6,606
226
Texas, unfortunately.
I keep being told by viscious PC only types that Bill Gates "owns" Apple anyway and just keeps it around to forstall any Gibbamint monopoly problems!

He 'bought' Apple for 150 million dollars!

(seems like a good deal for gates!}

I was told that a LOT about a year ago.. I was like WTF?
They'd say "yeah, it's true."
"Then why does Apple kick Microsofts butt in nearly every way?"
*Pause* "No they don't. And because."
 

FrankBlack

macrumors 6502
Dec 28, 2005
365
0
Looking for Lucy Butler
Yesterday my teacher bought a laptop with Windows Vista. She came up to me in school today with a couple of questions. This is basically how the conversation went:

teacher: "I got a new computer with that "veesta" thing! It's a Gateway laptop. Anyway, I got it on and I don't know what to do. They said it has Norton 60-day trial on it and I bought MS Office 2007 but I don't know how to get any programs running. It's really confusing."

me: "Well, you have to go to the start menu, which I think is now a spherical button, and find the program or put the CD in."

teacher: "I don't know how to do that so I'll bring it in tomorrow and have you show me."

me: "By the way, did you ever think about getting a mac? They're much easier to use and MS Office is made for mac."

teacher: "Oh, those apples? I hate those."

me: "Why?"

teacher: "I tried one of those 3 years ago and I didn't understand it."

Yikes! (bad pun not intended.) It would have been tempting to ask "what did you not understand?", but that would have been a waste of time.

Let me guess... She teaches Sociology, right?
 

rjphoto

macrumors 6502a
Mar 7, 2005
822
0
Yesterday my teacher bought a laptop with Windows Vista. She came up to me in school today with a couple of questions. This is basically how the conversation went:

teacher: "I got a new computer with that "veesta" thing! It's a Gateway laptop. Anyway, I got it on and I don't know what to do. They said it has Norton 60-day trial on it and I bought MS Office 2007 but I don't know how to get any programs running. It's really confusing."

me: "Well, you have to go to the start menu, which I think is now a spherical button, and find the program or put the CD in."

teacher: "I don't know how to do that so I'll bring it in tomorrow and have you show me."

me: "By the way, did you ever think about getting a mac? They're much easier to use and MS Office is made for mac."

teacher: "Oh, those apples? I hate those."

me: "Why?"

teacher: "I tried one of those 3 years ago and I didn't understand it."


AND now the VEESTA THING is.... never mind.

I think I would have just said, "I'm sorry. I'd be glad to teach you everything you would need to know about a Mac, but this thing... I'd take it back and get the guy that sold it to you to teach you or return it for a refund."

Then move on...
 

eRondeau

macrumors 65816
Mar 3, 2004
1,185
491
Canada's South Coast
Yesterday my teacher bought a laptop with Windows Vista. She came up to me in school today with a couple of questions. This is basically how the conversation went....

Remember, people don't become teachers because they like to challenge the status quo. People become teachers because they want to maintain it. In all my years in the public school system, I had mostly "career" teachers. This means few of them ever did anything else but teach. They were inside a classroom from the time they turned 5 until they retired at 55. Looking back, I really feel sorry for these teachers because they know so little about real life. These are the hopeless, pathetic people Bill depends on to buy his Vista Home Premium Edition.

Ironically, your teacher probably loves her iPod and loves using iTunes. She probably thinks if Mac computers were more like those, she'd actually consider buying one.
 

Sdashiki

macrumors 68040
Aug 11, 2005
3,529
11
Behind the lens
In all my years in the public school system, I had mostly "career" teachers. This means few of them ever did anything else but teach. They were inside a classroom from the time they turned 5 until they retired at 55. Looking back, I really feel sorry for these teachers because they know so little about real life. These are the hopeless, pathetic people Bill depends on to buy his Vista Home Premium Edition.

wow, so wrong it hurts.

you are supposed to teach for 20+ years, thats called, a career in teaching. and seeing as how all public teaching salaries are based on time in that career, I dont think its a bad thing for a teacher to teach a subject for a few decades, if anything it makes them better at their particular curriculum.

if your teachers sucked, I wouldnt use the term "career" teachers, as that is what they are supposed to be.

its the teachers who start at 22, and end at 25 that truly suck. not those who start at 24 and end at 60.

im glad you had career teachers, it means they know how to teach.

granted, not all teachers SHOULD be teaching, but to generalize makes YOU look dumb, not them.

/rant
 

Sdashiki

macrumors 68040
Aug 11, 2005
3,529
11
Behind the lens
If someone thinks its BAD for a teacher to be on the job their whole lives, then they dont have clue one about learning.

and need to be taught. :D
 

hopejr

macrumors 6502
Nov 10, 2005
310
0
New South Wales, Australia
A recent discussion I had with someone who uses Windows at home, Macs at work:
Person: What's so good about macs anyway? I don't like them.
Me: Why, what's the problem?
Person: Oh this program I use doesn't work the same as the Windows version.

What a reason not to like a Mac, because of a third party app (do be completely honest, the Mac version isn't quite as good as the Windows version, but still not a reason).
 

mrgreen4242

macrumors 601
Feb 10, 2004
4,377
9
I don't run into nearly as many morons as all you guys do. I'd just look at a lot of these people completely dumbfounded before I responded with "you're effing kidding me right?" and just walked off. I lost patience for Windows and Windows users years ago. I have to support a bunch of them at work, but I don't have to like it. Which is why I absolutely refuse to fix anyones computer outside the 9-5. If someone tells me their computer is broken I say "what sort of machine is it?" They answer Dell/whatever and I say "have you called Dell?" and they always say no. "Did I sell you this piece of crap computer? No, so why would you call me?" I then tell them to go to an Apple store, buy a Mac and get Apple care. If they have any problems, call Apple or visit the store and they will fix it for you.
 

patrick0brien

macrumors 68040
Oct 24, 2002
3,246
9
The West Loop
I don't run into nearly as many morons as all you guys do. I'd just look at a lot of these people completely dumbfounded before I responded with "you're effing kidding me right?" and just walked off. I lost patience for Windows and Windows users years ago. I have to support a bunch of them at work, but I don't have to like it. Which is why I absolutely refuse to fix anyones computer outside the 9-5. If someone tells me their computer is broken I say "what sort of machine is it?" They answer Dell/whatever and I say "have you called Dell?" and they always say no. "Did I sell you this piece of crap computer? No, so why would you call me?" I then tell them to go to an Apple store, buy a Mac and get Apple care. If they have any problems, call Apple or visit the store and they will fix it for you.

-mrgreen

I respect you for your ability to do that. Myself, I'm a masochist in these matters and just-can't-say-no.

As for dealing with silly ignorant Windows users, I tend to smile knowingly and not say much. Sort of give them a "yooooou go ahead and keep thinking that" look, I realized that long ago that I wouldn't change the mind of anybody who came after me so agressively misinformed - their mind was already made up.

All I could do was get them to doubt.

Speaking of, I was a Starbucks this morning, one really close to a High School so it's slammed with kids at 8:30. One apparently wanting to look cool in font of friends came up to me with my glowing Apple logo and said "I heard that Apple's suck."

Pausing, I looked up. "I'm sorry you heard that. What do you think?"

Clearly not ready for a response so literal, he jittered, and came back with. "Well, I don't know."

Making a large-ish assumtion, I replied "You like your iPod?"

"Yeah."

Smiling, I said, "Well imagine that being applied to the whole computer."

Blink, blink. "Can I see?"

Sold!!!
 

SkyBell

macrumors 604
Sep 7, 2006
6,606
226
Texas, unfortunately.
-mrgreen

I respect you for your ability to do that. Myself, I'm a masochist in these matters and just-can't-say-no.

As for dealing with silly ignorant Windows users, I tend to smile knowingly and not say much. Sort of give them a "yooooou go ahead and keep thinking that" look, I realized that long ago that I wouldn't change the mind of anybody who came after me so agressively misinformed - their mind was already made up.

All I could do was get them to doubt.

Speaking of, I was a Starbucks this morning, one really close to a High School so it's slammed with kids at 8:30. One apparently wanting to look cool in font of friends came up to me with my glowing Apple logo and said "I heard that Apple's suck."

Pausing, I looked up. "I'm sorry you heard that. What do you think?"

Clearly not ready for a response so literal, he jittered, and came back with. "Well, I don't know."

Making a large-ish assumtion, I replied "You like your iPod?"

"Yeah."

Smiling, I said, "Well imagine that being applied to the whole computer."

Blink, blink. "Can I see?"

Sold!!!

See, I don't mind kids like that. They have to know the facts. Someone told him Apple's suck. Unlike a lot of people, he decided to find out if this was true.

Whatever he decides is fine, as long as he has tried it.
 

dsnort

macrumors 68000
Jan 28, 2006
1,904
68
In persona non grata
I will have to say that most people I meet who even notice what kind of computer I use have at least a modicum of respect for "different strokes for different folks". The one exception is someone I work with. For some reason he seems to take great offense to the presence of my Macbook. Whebn I had email trouble a while back he assured me is was my Macs fault. ( Turned out my password got reset by the administrator accidently.)

Naturally, I was the epitome of polite restraint recently when his 6 month old Thinkpad refused to boot up.....
 

iBookG4user

macrumors 604
Jun 27, 2006
6,595
2
Seattle, WA
Here's some more computer idiots I've run into.

I'm looking up the vocab words for a test and my teacher was in contradiction with the dictionary.

me: "The Oxford dictionary says that it means this, and that's what I put." (whiles showing her the word on my MBP)

another student: "It's those Apples, they're always wrong."

me: "It's the Oxford dictionary..."

the same student: "but it runs on Apples so it's wrong."

idiot :rolleyes:.
 

iBookG4user

macrumors 604
Jun 27, 2006
6,595
2
Seattle, WA
-iBookG4user

Perfect opportunity for a "Haaah?!?" response if I ever saw one.

I mean really, that one needs explanation - can't just walk away.

The person who stated the nonsense is completely ignorant of Macs and likes to denounce my Mac at any opportunity possible, even if it is completely illogical. His favourite thing to do is to mess with me, he's a jerk.
 

patrick0brien

macrumors 68040
Oct 24, 2002
3,246
9
The West Loop
The person who stated the nonsense is completely ignorant of Macs and likes to denounce my Mac at any opportunity possible, even if it is completely illogical. His favourite thing to do is to mess with me, he's a jerk.

-iBookG4user

Oh. Here I was hoping he was ignorant rather than an a$$.

What do you do in reaction? Please tell me you just shake your head.
 

notjustjay

macrumors 603
Sep 19, 2003
6,056
167
Canada, eh?
I don't run into nearly as many morons as all you guys do. I'd just look at a lot of these people completely dumbfounded before I responded with "you're effing kidding me right?" and just walked off. I lost patience for Windows and Windows users years ago. I have to support a bunch of them at work, but I don't have to like it. Which is why I absolutely refuse to fix anyones computer outside the 9-5. If someone tells me their computer is broken I say "what sort of machine is it?" They answer Dell/whatever and I say "have you called Dell?" and they always say no. "Did I sell you this piece of crap computer? No, so why would you call me?" I then tell them to go to an Apple store, buy a Mac and get Apple care. If they have any problems, call Apple or visit the store and they will fix it for you.

While I wouldn't have been that, er... blunt, I definitely feel for you. I was the local IT guy for a lot of my friends, I've been to more than a few people's houses (and a few people have come to mine) specifically to see if I can fix their computer. I never enjoy it, but I'm a nice guy. (The real problem is how illogical a lot of the issues are, but that's another story...)

Switching to the Mac in 2003 was probably very good timing because I managed to ditch the Windows world before it got really dangerous and very non-deterministic. Nowadays with spyware and adware and fancier viruses that download themselves as soon as you visit malicious websites, along with all of the usual stuff -- bad drivers, service packs, patches, poorly written software, a myriad of networking devices to contend with -- I couldn't keep up even if I wanted to. Less headache for me as a user, and now I have a handy excuse when people call me asking if I can fix their computer: Sorry, I don't really do Windows anymore. I'd be happy to help you if you had Mac questions, though.

In fact, a couple of my friends did end up getting Macs, and I've been happy to help support them. I'm finding myself behind the curve again, though, now that people are having issues with their Intel Core Duo machines running Tiger, as I'm still on Panther on a G4.
 
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