stupidest questions from PC users

[Definity]

Not a troll, just open minded. Just some questions you never get answers to.

Words like that also tick me off.

 

[richard.mac]

Indeed, but how often do you see Redhat/FreeBSD/CentOS/Ubuntu/Solaris/OpenSUSE users ripping into Mac users? It's exactly a mirror of how Firefox users rip into anyone who doesn't use it, despite firefox being an inferior product to Opera. They have no basis on their arguments, and are judgmental on others without warrant. Likewise, as with many Mac users and firefox users alike, they possess this "holier than thou" attitude. …

Linux users would respect Mac OS X as its core is FreeBSD. but i bet some users just wouldnt like OS X's eye candy even though it can be made to look quite professional for power users.

Firefox users also rip on IE users all the time even though it runs on the same OS.

… A good thing to note and a frequent argument is that Windows only supports up to 4GB of ram. It's wholly untrue. It actually supports up to 128GB and can use every last bit of it too, it is available and you can buy it now, if you have £32,000 spare. Vastly more than the MacPro which can be spec'd up to 32GB, inferior in comparison. …

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/08/26/road_to_mac_os_x_10_6_snow_leopard_64_bits.html

… A good metaphor would be, you see yourself as a Mac user, the older brother, and the Windows user as a younger sibling in need of direction. The older brother drives a Porsche, with his black sweatshirt, thin armarni glasses, designer jeans and styled up hair. The younger brother pushes himself around in a tricycle wanting to be like the older brother. The older brother hangs around groups of people and follows the latest trends, flashing the latest iPod, iPhone, etc. …

so your saying Mac users should not critise Windows users but help them by recommending the switch? i thought thats what we do… well its what i do anyway.

… I'd quite find that Linux users would be the Cambridge don who drives a Zonda to the local shops, and takes the Rolls to work and gives the older brother work. They have a fuller understanding of how things work and attain better harmony. …

thats a good example of a Linux user , i like it.

… A point to note, it's amazing that I have never, ever, ever, seen a host which runs a webserver that runs on a Mac. They may exist, but I have yet to find one. Wonder why?

im not sure. im just guessing that web servers dont need OS X's eye candy and the reasonably high priced OS when they could just use say FreeBSD for example which built perfectly for a webserver and is free. they can also customise the OS to suite their needs as its open source which you cant do to OS X as it proprietary like Windows… but why would everyday users like me and you want to mess around with an OS for?

i would also like to point out as well that i recently saw an article (cant find it sorry) talking about Snow Leopard supporting Exchange and that an XServe with OS X Server will actually cost a lot less than a PC server loaded with a Windows Exchange Server license. maybe we could see Macs being used as web and business servers in the future?

 

[TBi]

Indeed, but how often do you see Redhat/FreeBSD/CentOS/Ubuntu/Solaris/OpenSUSE users ripping into Mac users? It's exactly a mirror of how Firefox users rip into anyone who doesn't use it, despite firefox being an inferior product to Opera. They have no basis on their arguments, and are judgmental on others without warrant. Likewise, as with many Mac users and firefox users alike, they possess this "holier than thou" attitude.

How exactly is Opera better? Where is the basis to this argument?

A good thing to note and a frequent argument is that Windows only supports up to 4GB of ram. It's wholly untrue. It actually supports up to 128GB and can use every last bit of it too, it is available and you can buy it now, if you have £32,000 spare. Vastly more than the MacPro which can be spec'd up to 32GB, inferior in comparison.

People here are referring to windows 32-bit, which does support only 4GB of ram (although can support more). OSX supports more than 32GB, it's just a hardware limit at the moment so i don't see your point. How many PC's can you buy on the market today that support over 32GB? How many can you by that support over 16GB?

EDIT: Seems i was a litte wrong on the 32GB front.

I'd quite find that Linux users would be the Cambridge don who drives a Zonda to the local shops, and takes the Rolls to work and gives the older brother work. They have a fuller understanding of how things work and attain better harmony.

For some reason i can't picture the average Linux user spending that much money on a car. They'd probably be more likely to buy a good reliable, easy to repair, car that gets them around with no fuss.

A point to note too, it's amazing that I have never, ever, ever, seen a host which runs a webserver that runs on a Mac. They may exist, but I have yet to find a reputable one. Wonder why? Poundhost, Rackshack, UK2, Easyspace, Fasthosts, WebIntellects, list goes on and on.

As pointed out Linux or FreeBSD are cheaper/free alternatives to OSX. Why pay the money for all the glitz when you don't need it? It doesn't mean OSX can't do it, it just means people don't see why they should pay for it. I wouldn't.

Even Mac.org.uk say:

But OSX is UNIX so they are saying OSX is good for it...

 

[Definity]

Linux users would respect Mac OS X as its core is FreeBSD. but i bet some users just wouldnt like OS X's eye candy even though it can be made to look quite professional for power users.

Quite true, but everything works out at personal preference. I prefer the look of OS 9 to OS X, because it has so much extra things that I have no need for whatsoever, hence me using OpenSUSE as my main OS.

Firefox users also rip on IE users all the time even though it runs on the same OS.

Understood, but it was the mentality of these arguments that annoy me most.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/08/26/road_to_mac_os_x_10_6_snow_leopard_64_bits.html

Yup. I'd like to see people referring to the 4GB issue a lot less seeing as most CPU's now come readily with 64bit architecture.

so your saying Mac users should not critise Windows users but help them by recommending the switch? i thought thats what we do… well its what i do anyway.

It depends how you do it and at what frequency and attitude. It's like a sales pitch. The harder you press someone, the more likelier they'd walk away, with a bad view of you overall.

thats a good example of a Linux user , i like it.

Thanks...

im not sure. im just guessing that web servers dont need OS X's eye candy and the reasonably high priced OS when they could just use say FreeBSD for example which built perfectly for a webserver and is free. they can also customise the OS to suite their needs as its open source which you cant do to OS X as it proprietary like Windows…

Both OS's can be further tweaked. Web servers, windows based anyway, are usually reverted to the old Windows 98 skin. They use up unnecessary resources on things that essentially don't matter.

but why would everyday users like me and you want to mess around with an OS for?

I mess around with my dedicated web server all the time, sometimes to actually optimise it, others just to play around.

i would also like to point out as well that i recently saw an article (cant find it sorry) talking about Snow Leopard supporting Exchange and that an XServe with OS X Server will actually cost a lot less than a PC server loaded with a Windows Exchange Server license. maybe we could see Macs being used as web and business servers in the future?[/QUOTE]

 

[TBi]

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/08/26/road_to_mac_os_x_10_6_snow_leopard_64_bits.html

That's a very interesting article, thanks for the link!

 

[richard.mac]

… I mess around with my dedicated web server all the time, sometimes to actually optimise it, others just to play around.

i just meant just everyday users. since you own a server so you like customising your OS and so do server admins, hence why they use open source OSs.

 

[r.j.s]

Yup. I'd like to see people referring to the 4GB issue a lot less seeing as most CPU's now come readily with 64bit architecture.

Considering that most windows users are still running a 32-bit version of the OS, the argument is still valid. Even though the hardware is 64-bit, it means nothing if the OS is still 32.

 

[Sdashiki]

Id so much rather read this thread for funny stories, not banter back and forth debating what someone might have overheard.

If you insist on being petty in a tongue-in-cheek thread, at least make it funnier.

 

[greenchilegirl]

Here's a change-up given the title of this thread

I was in the Apple store today, fondling the MBPs and a woman (mid-50s, heavily-applied blue eyeshadow that matched her sun visor - that's important for context) standing next to me asked me what I thought. I responded "It's cool, but I'm going to have a huge learning curve switching to a Mac." She said "Switching from what?"

that's funny alone, but when I told her I had Vista as the OS on my current laptop she said, "Oh, you mean they don't all use Mac?" I decided against trying to explain the difference between an operating system and an actual computer. . .

She then said "I have that one" pointing at one of the really spendy iMacs and told me to have a nice day. Surreal.

 

[raymondu999]

You should be careful with your phrasing... I thought you were "fondling the MBPs and a woman (mid-50s)" instead of "fondling the MBPs" "and a woman came along"

 

[greenchilegirl]

Poo. I'm always letting my parentheticals get in the middle of my message! How embarrassing for my second-ever post on this forum!!!

 

[rjphoto]

She said "Switching from what?"

that's funny alone, but when I told her I had Vista as the OS on my current laptop she said, "Oh, you mean they don't all use Mac?"

Well, I can see where her initial question is coming from. You could be switching from an XO laptop (seriously, Google XO Laptop & Birmingham Schools...).

As for the second part, who knows, maybe she's never used a PC. My wife has only occasionally used one at the local library. Her Mac is 9 years old & she uses it everyday.

 

[PowerFullMac]

Not a question but a very very stupid comment.

 

[SkyBell]

Of course to be fair, 99% of all YouTube users are ignorant teenage jackasses who have nothing better to do then enrage fanbois.

A memo to all: If you want to see some Mac bashing with made up "facts" and spelling that would make a 1st grader recoil in disgust, YouTube is the place to go.

 

[Les Kern]

I got my iMac two years ago at circuit city unfortunately my computer retarded mother was there and I ended up arguing with two sales men at the same time about how pound for pound an I imac with osx is way better than any Pc. I'll pay 200 extra for functionality and stability.

Please know that they are compelled to say that because their profit margin is higher on the PC, hence they make a bigger commission. They don't give a rat's ass what's best for YOU, just THEM.
Never have I heard more assinine crap than in a computer carnival like Best Buy. When walking the aisles it's all I can do to not attack a salesidiot for lying to a customer. I did do it a few times... it wasn't pretty. Not only was the salesidiot miffed, but one time the CUSTOMER WAS TOO!

 

[duncyboy]

I was at a party friday night and failed utterly to convince two friends that Macs are the way to go. One is a hardcore gamer so that's no surprise but the other one was always a big Amiga guy and I was so disappointed in him...

"I couldn't live with that one button mouse thing..."

 

[DoFoT9]

I was at a party friday night and failed utterly to convince two friends that Macs are the way to go. One is a hardcore gamer so that's no surprise but the other one was always a big Amiga guy and I was so disappointed in him...

"I couldn't live with that one button mouse thing..."

at that point i would have turned around and walked away hahahhaha

 

[krye]

A few days ado a guy at work was Mac bashing and I asked him if he'd ever actually used a Mac? He said yeh, but didn't get the whole one button mouse thing. After I smashed my palm into my forehead, I informed him that Mac users have been using 2 button mice for some time now, and that the Mighty Mouse can be configured to have a "right click". I can't stand when Windows users slam the Mac because of something they don't understand. Or worse, base the entire "end user experience" on a 5 minute test run.

 

[belvdr]

I can't stand when Windows users slam the Mac because of something they don't understand.

Agreed, vice versa or anything for that matter. I don't like it when someone runs down anything and he/she doesn't understand it.

 

[hogfaninga]

A few days ado a guy at work was Mac bashing and I asked him if he'd ever actually used a Mac? He said yeh, but didn't get the whole one button mouse thing. After I smashed my palm into my forehead, I informed him that Mac users have been using 2 button mice for some time now, and that the Mighty Mouse can be configured to have a "right click". I can't stand when Windows users slam the Mac because of something they don't understand. Or worse, base the entire "end user experience" on a 5 minute test run.

Sometimes it isn't worth explaining to people.

 

[sushi]

Not a question but a very very stupid comment.

Almost an illiterate comment.

 

[ZiggyPastorius]

I had a good quote come from someone the other day. I was trying out someone's Instinct at school (which is a terrible phone, by the way), and I open the calculator, and try to use it, and it was really bad...a grey screen with a generic calculator, and it's a chore to use the scientific and other features. Anyways, I'm trying to figure it out, and I go "This isn't very intuitive...I can't even figure out how to use this." and some goes goes, "Well, of course you can't figure out how to use it...you're a Mac user." I felt like being a smart ass, but instead I was just like, "What the **** does that have to do with anything?" Apparently, Mac users don't know how to use phones.

 

[DoFoT9]

I had a good quote come from someone the other day. I was trying out someone's Instinct at school (which is a terrible phone, by the way), and I open the calculator, and try to use it, and it was really bad...a grey screen with a generic calculator, and it's a chore to use the scientific and other features. Anyways, I'm trying to figure it out, and I go "This isn't very intuitive...I can't even figure out how to use this." and some goes goes, "Well, of course you can't figure out how to use it...you're a Mac user." I felt like being a smart ass, but instead I was just like, "What the **** does that have to do with anything?" Apparently, Mac users don't know how to use phones.

LOLISM!!

maybe we're just used to not having to read the manuals??

 

[TuffLuffJimmy]

I had a good quote come from someone the other day. I was trying out someone's Instinct at school (which is a terrible phone, by the way), and I open the calculator, and try to use it, and it was really bad...a grey screen with a generic calculator, and it's a chore to use the scientific and other features. Anyways, I'm trying to figure it out, and I go "This isn't very intuitive...I can't even figure out how to use this." and some goes goes, "Well, of course you can't figure out how to use it...you're a Mac user." I felt like being a smart ass, but instead I was just like, "What the **** does that have to do with anything?" Apparently, Mac users don't know how to use phones.

Well as dumb as the other person sounds; you really couldn't figure out how to use a calculator?

 

[patrick0brien]

I had a good quote come from someone the other day. I was trying out someone's Instinct at school (which is a terrible phone, by the way), and I open the calculator, and try to use it, and it was really bad...a grey screen with a generic calculator, and it's a chore to use the scientific and other features. Anyways, I'm trying to figure it out, and I go "This isn't very intuitive...I can't even figure out how to use this." and some goes goes, "Well, of course you can't figure out how to use it...you're a Mac user." I felt like being a smart ass, but instead I was just like, "What the **** does that have to do with anything?" Apparently, Mac users don't know how to use phones.

-ZiggyPastorius

Any time anyone comes back with a remark like "Well, of course you can't figure out how to use it...you're a Mac user.", I like to trip them up with "So, what's your point?"