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My final thoughts:
-Considering the Surface Book, I knew this was going to cost a kidney, but not START at a Kidney.
-GPU is still a lot better than the current iMac, but I'd feel weird spending $3000-$4200 on computer with a 980M when they could've fit an MXM 1070 or 1060 in the same TDP. If you're going to use NVidia, at least use the latest GPU.
-No pure SSD option is also pain point. I will not buy another computer with a HDD in it, period. Apple, Microsoft, or whom can add whatever BS branding they like("Fusion" "Rapid"
); A HDD is still a HDD.
-The ability to have such a large digital canvas could definitely eat into the iMac among creative design professionals.
-Kind of related to price, I'm surprised there isn't a smaller 21-23" model. The starting cost would've probably been $2000 at least, but that's still better than $3000.
-Considering the Surface Book, I knew this was going to cost a kidney, but not START at a Kidney.
-GPU is still a lot better than the current iMac, but I'd feel weird spending $3000-$4200 on computer with a 980M when they could've fit an MXM 1070 or 1060 in the same TDP. If you're going to use NVidia, at least use the latest GPU.
-No pure SSD option is also pain point. I will not buy another computer with a HDD in it, period. Apple, Microsoft, or whom can add whatever BS branding they like("Fusion" "Rapid"
); A HDD is still a HDD.-The ability to have such a large digital canvas could definitely eat into the iMac among creative design professionals.
-Kind of related to price, I'm surprised there isn't a smaller 21-23" model. The starting cost would've probably been $2000 at least, but that's still better than $3000.
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http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/05/16/creation-myth
I've just had a look at the promotional video for the big-ass tablet computer from Microsoft... and I hope they have the best palm rejection in the world, because using that thing to draw without resting your palm or even your full forearm on the screen - if you want to go to the top corners - is going to give you a bad case of gorilla arm very, very quickly.
This might be a scenario like what Apple did with the 15" rMBP that they released in 2012. Release the larger model first, then create the smaller, lower-priced models about six months to a year later.
Dunno, probably because I've been using Macs for decades now and have watched Apple's steady decline of support toward the pro market?
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If the price point was 2k, then I could see myself being tempted, but at 3k, there's no way I would get it, plus my wife would kill me if I spent that much on a computer.
Yeah, what I'm getting at is why are they doing that - and trying to imply that their focus on other devices is because that's where the money is.
I like the Surface Studio. It's a bit much for my needs and that price is scary, but I know a lot of visual artists who are really, really excited by this thing. Animators, illustrators, they can't wait to work with surface and that dial.
I'm waiting to see how it works with zBrush.
I'm waiting to see how it works with zBrush.
The price seems competitive enough. First of its kind, a verge large high res (on par with the imac) touch screen with advance tech such as the impressive palm rejection, solid materials from what I can see, and it's even aesthetically pleasing.
It's not cheap by any means, but it does seem reasonably priced for what it's offering
I agree. Apple may lose the professional user base as Microsoft is actually increasing the pace of Windows and hardware integration. Apple seems to be slowing it.
Yes. Exactly. Which is why they don't bother with the Pro. Because they don't get much revenue from it.
You can't claim it's a niche product based on price when a sub par "high end" MBP or "high end" iMac starts mid-$2k's with outdated technology. MS outdid Apple in every respect. Innovation, tech, etc... The only thing that'll keep people from going over is their comfort levels and/or disdain for MS in general. I 100% guarantee whatever Apple releases tomorrow isn't going to compare or compete with the market out there. I love my iMac. But man, that thing is impressive as all hell no matter how many ways one wants to spin it to make Apple out like some superior product.
I did. And actually I like Win 10 better. (I also got a Mac Mini running El Capitan so I am not a fanboy of either.)
I don't understand the grousing about the price..
It has a 28" 4500x3000 DCI-P3 capable multi-touch screen!
I think there's a great value case to be made, it's a really cool implementation of a use case (artists/editors/designers, etc) and it's some MUCH needed desktop OS+hardware combo competition for Apple.
(oh and it's 3:2 aspect ratio makes me insanely jealous)
It has a 28" 4500x3000 DCI-P3 capable multi-touch screen!
I think there's a great value case to be made, it's a really cool implementation of a use case (artists/editors/designers, etc) and it's some MUCH needed desktop OS+hardware combo competition for Apple.
(oh and it's 3:2 aspect ratio makes me insanely jealous)
The resolution is less. But, the Cintiq 27QHD is a little cheaper. And, better. Probably. Because you can use it on a Mac or whahaveyou.
I don't think the design of the Surface Studio is anything special, to be honest.
And, to be honest, to say that this is copying from Apple design is kind of a slap in the face of Jon Ivy.
The thing is far from apple products I know of. The Surface Studio is more like the recent smartphones, bezel less mania, tv designs from the past 3 years of looking at products at CES and similar events.
Thank you.
There are no comparable iMacs. Specs-wise, perhaps, but not for what it is. The display is what's driving the price up. Spec-wise, a comparable iMac is $3400 with a much inferior GPU. I'm not sure where these prices keep coming from. The store is right on their site for everyone to click on.
Stop comparing this to an iMac. It's not even close. It's not even close to the 2001 iMac.
The design sucks man!
Visit a Microsoft store to see this thing in real life and then visit an Apple Store and compare the two computers. Also visit an antique store with an old iMac.
You wil be disappointed with that piece of trash Studio piece of sh#t!
Just look at my attachment. That price came from the windows store.
Here's the iMac. I picked 16GB ram only because you can buy the extra 16GB cheaper from any retailer for far less than Apple charges.
And remember this is the older iMac which might get a refresh.
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I'm referring to the iMac prices people are coming up with, not the Microsoft price.
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Dunno if you noticed, but I've been saying that repeatedly.
To you, yes.
I'd rather not.
That is very mature of you.