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KeesMacPro

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Nov 7, 2019
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Hi,

Wondering if anyone can help me out - I have the SYBA SI-PEX40129 controller installed in my MacPro -

Model: 4,1 updated to 5,1 firmware
OS: Catalina 10.15.7

The card is installed in slot 1, x16.
Im using two 500GB Samsung 970 EVOs
Firmware of both drives is 2B2QEXE7

When I look at the system report, "Hardware > NVMExpress", both drives have a link speed of 8.0 GT/s, but one drive has a link width of x1 and the other x4.

When I run AmorphousDiskMark separately on both drives, I get different speeds. Is this to be expected? I would have thought both drives have the exact same speed? Is it possible my card is defective, or is there some additional configuration Im missing?
Hi,

Both blades should show up as X4 and 8.0GT/s.
You could swap the blades between eachother to find out if the blade is faulty or the I/O Crest card.

Both blades should run with ~ the same I/O speed , unless e.g. one is filled completely , and there's no free space left.
 
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joevt

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Jun 21, 2012
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Hi,

Wondering if anyone can help me out - I have the SYBA SI-PEX40129 controller installed in my MacPro -

Model: 4,1 updated to 5,1 firmware
OS: Catalina 10.15.7

The card is installed in slot 1, x16.
Im using two 500GB Samsung 970 EVOs
Firmware of both drives is 2B2QEXE7

When I look at the system report, "Hardware > NVMExpress", both drives have a link speed of 8.0 GT/s, but one drive has a link width of x1 and the other x4.

When I run AmorphousDiskMark separately on both drives, I get different speeds. Is this to be expected? I would have thought both drives have the exact same speed? Is it possible my card is defective, or is there some additional configuration Im missing?
If one drive is 3000 MB/s (PCIe 3.0 x4) and the other drive is 800 MB/s (PCIe 3.0 x1) then it may be defective. Try switching them.
 

AlexMaximus

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Aug 15, 2006
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Hi,

Wondering if anyone can help me out - I have the SYBA SI-PEX40129 controller installed in my MacPro -

Model: 4,1 updated to 5,1 firmware
OS: Catalina 10.15.7

The card is installed in slot 1, x16.
Im using two 500GB Samsung 970 EVOs
Firmware of both drives is 2B2QEXE7

When I look at the system report, "Hardware > NVMExpress", both drives have a link speed of 8.0 GT/s, but one drive has a link width of x1 and the other x4.

When I run AmorphousDiskMark separately on both drives, I get different speeds. Is this to be expected? I would have thought both drives have the exact same speed? Is it possible my card is defective, or is there some additional configuration Im missing?
solved
 

basslik

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Feb 22, 2008
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According to their site. Bifurcation PCIe x16 slot to achieve their full potential with a bandwidth of up to 6,500 MB/s

I would try one stick at a time in each slot and run them separate to see what numbers you are getting.
 

tsialex

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Jun 13, 2016
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No Mac has bifurcation - none whatsoever. Bifurcation is a very specific resource of some recent Intel and AMD high end chipsets, where the chipset split the PCIe lanes allocated to a slot to multiple devices connected to it, for example a x8 slot is divided into 4 devices each one using 2 lanes, connected to a PCIe riser/card.

Why people use this term when talking about PCIe switched cards?!? Just because the SYBA marketing is utterly incompetent? o_O
 

Alan Young

macrumors newbie
Jan 20, 2004
13
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Hi,

Wondering if anyone can help me out - I have the SYBA SI-PEX40129 controller installed in my MacPro -

Model: 4,1 updated to 5,1 firmware
OS: Catalina 10.15.7

The card is installed in slot 1, x16.
Im using two 500GB Samsung 970 EVOs
Firmware of both drives is 2B2QEXE7

When I look at the system report, "Hardware > NVMExpress", both drives have a link speed of 8.0 GT/s, but one drive has a link width of x1 and the other x4.

When I run AmorphousDiskMark separately on both drives, I get different speeds. Is this to be expected? I would have thought both drives have the exact same speed? Is it possible my card is defective, or is there some additional configuration Im missing?
I have the same issue, although one drive has a link speed of 2x and the other 4x. Swapping drives in the card the problem follows the drive. It was in an Ablecon ? switched controller previously and both showed up as 4x lanes with R/W speed around 2600/2300 respectively. I dropped the card accidentally on the desk with both drives (Evo 970 plus) and the Ablecon PMX ? didn't boot or show up in system report. After trying various things I replaced the Ablecon with the Crest IO ( same chipset) and this problem started. Really seems strange. I don't think the drop of about a foot onto the desk hurt the Ablecon card or 970.

Alan
 

dksoutha

macrumors member
Mar 5, 2012
35
1
Anybody else having problems with their SYBA? cMP 4,1/5,1 would boot only half way, and First Aid in Recovery Mode found sectors had been zeroed out on the NVMe. Ideas? It's a new 980 Pro, so perhaps that's the problem?

Thanks in advance
 

basslik

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Feb 22, 2008
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980 Pro is perhaps the problem. I believe there's a list somewhere on here in that regard. I'm using the 970 plus's and working fine.
 
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saltinbanquis

macrumors newbie
May 17, 2017
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Hello all! Looking for some thoughts...

So, long story short (or not so short ) I have 2 of these Syba PEX40129 boards. One I purchased a couple of years back give or take, works great. I have 2 NVME drives installed on it to avoid macOS reboots, all good. I recently purchased a second board at a discount price on Amazon (am working on a second MacPro tower project). When I move my 2 perfectly working nvme drives to this new board, it does not recognize the bootable drive, the one I have MacOs Mojave installed on.

I have a third working drive, bit older (AHCI), with High Sierra installed and also working fine. That drive is also not recognized by the new SYBA board.

I have requested a replacement on Amazon but am wondering, is it that this particular board is defective somehow or has in fact something changed in the design of the board which will mean the replacement will also not work...

Interestingly, the old board comes with cooling pads for both the nvme drives as well as the Asmedia chip, however the new board has the cooling pads only for the drives (which you need to cut and install yourself where previously they were factory installed and you just removed the plastic protection) however the Asmedia chip is covered by a heatsink. In fact, I cannot know visually if indeed its an Asmedia chip or even the same model of chip as the old board, as its completely covered by the non-removable heatsink.

I have asked Syba for details on this but based on past experience I am not expecting any answers any time soon (I will revert back to this post if they do in fact reply)...


Drives I have on the working Syba are:
WDS100T2X0C 1TB with MacOS Mojave APFS formatted.
WD_BLACK SN750 SE 500GB blank, formatted as MacOS Plus.


Machine is a 4,1 Mac pro flashed to 5,1 with 144.0.0.0.0 firmware.

Thank you!
 

saltinbanquis

macrumors newbie
May 17, 2017
7
1
Thanks basslik. My system already has a metal capable card (Radeon RX580, in fact I have a very similar setup to yours)), and Mojave is already running. The issue is the drive was not appearing at all. When I booted, it took me to recovery and the Nvme drive where the OS is installed was not showing up. In hindsight, I did not reset the NVRAM, though I do not think that would have helped in this particular case... Again, all I did was replace the Syba card...

Anyhow, I have sent it back and am waiting for a replacement. Hopefully it was a bad card and the new one will work (I will try to reset nvram next time though :) )... I will post any further findings.

Thanks!
 

AlexMaximus

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Thanks basslik. My system already has a metal capable card (Radeon RX580, in fact I have a very similar setup to yours)), and Mojave is already running. The issue is the drive was not appearing at all. When I booted, it took me to recovery and the Nvme drive where the OS is installed was not showing up. In hindsight, I did not reset the NVRAM, though I do not think that would have helped in this particular case... Again, all I did was replace the Syba card...

Anyhow, I have sent it back and am waiting for a replacement. Hopefully it was a bad card and the new one will work (I will try to reset nvram next time though :) )... I will post any further findings.

Thanks!
I have one of those cards in my setup. I have read an article somewhere in the internet that described a similar problem as you have. Somehow there must be two versions out there. It seems the new version may not work any more on Mac.
 

saltinbanquis

macrumors newbie
May 17, 2017
7
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Apologies upfront for the long post... I hope this will be of help if someone is facing issues booting from a PEX40129 on macOS and perhaps of general interest out there :)

I received today the replacement board. Happy to report that it worked from the get go and no need to reset NVRAM. Either the previous one was a dud, or there are different versions going around, perhaps one of them does not support booting. I thought I would add my findings here, in case this is useful to anyone having a similar experience and feeling at a loss.

I have had in total 3 boards in my hands (lets call them Versions 1, 2, 3), one (V2) has been returned. I will list them in order of when I got them and I will try to load pictures showing some of the differences. Whilst checking these boards I noticed a number imprinted near the fan which was different on each. I am not sure if this denotes a "version" somehow. You may see it on the corner next to the fan, perhaps you can compare it with yours.

Version 1: Code shows "1920", see second thumbnail. This is the oldest of the 3 I have had. The main difference that I observe in comparison with the other two is that the Asmedia chip is covered by a cooling pad (installed from factory, blue plastic has to be removed upon installation etc. Each Nvme slot is also covered by a cooling pad. These are installed on the Aluminium cover or lid (see first pic).

Version 1 1920 IMG_5827.jpg . Version 1 1920 IMG_5828.jpg

Version 2: Code shows "21 20 M.RC". This is the one that did not boot macOs. This came with a heatsink installed on top of the Asmedia chip (I was very excited when I saw this initially, more on this below). The cooling pads came uninstalled, I had to cut them to size and install myself (you can tell in the first picture that the cuts are not that perfect :) ).
Also, not that important perhaps, but the aluminium lid or top was very shiny, looking really nice and sharp, while for the other two versions it looks more grey and "dull" (not that I care, but....). I think you can see it on the pictures.

Version 2 21 20 M.RC IMG_5800.jpg Version 2 21 20 M.RC IMG_5794.jpg Version 2 21 20 MRC IMG_5796.jpg

Version 3: Very similar to version 2. Code shows "20 49". Heatsink installed in favour of cooling pad. NVME cooling pads came preinstalled from factory. Looking darker grey and dull, again, just aesthetics, not important. Below ou can see the two nvmes installed, the heatsink and the code by the cooling fan.


Version 3 20 49 M IMG_5823.jpeg Version 3 20 49 M IMG_5824.jpeg Version 3 20 49 M IMG_5822.jpeg


I was instrigued by the performance of the heatsink, so I checked the temps while running V1 and compared against temps while running V3. I notice the blades run cooler on V3 (I suppose quite obviously). With Version 1 with the cooling pad on the chip, I was getting temps of up to 57 degrees but not lower than 42 while with Version 3 with the heatsink I am seeing a much more steady temperature running at 44, not higher than 46 and not lower than 40, so less temperature spikes, which I guess is a good thing...

I hope this post, though a bit long, is of interest and help to someone :)

All the best and let me know your thoughts.

(P.S. I sent some emails to Customer support, they replied early on asking the motherboard I was using but after sending my reply I have heard nothing back form them. So much for customer support).
 
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saltinbanquis

macrumors newbie
May 17, 2017
7
1
Did you end up keeping v3?

Would you recommend using in a 5,1?
Yes, I kept V3 and that is what I am currently using. You need to use 2 nvme sticks, as reported, otherwise system will crash. Also, be sure to place the card on slot 1, particularly if you are using an RX580 or similar card, else you risk the fans of the card hitting the capacitors on the bottom of the nvme card (you could use a spacer as well but I did not opt for this route). I had that happen to an older card and some capacitors came flying off!

Other than that, this card is perfect for the 5,1 or 4,1.

Put a price watch, so you ensure getting it at the right price. I paid about 150$. They are crazy expensive now.
 
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thrush

macrumors member
Jul 22, 2002
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Yes, I kept V3 and that is what I am currently using. You need to use 2 nvme sticks, as reported, otherwise system will crash.

Other than that, this card is perfect for the 5,1 or 4,1.

Did you use the blade heatsinks provided w/ the adapter or get aftermarket?

Any problems booting Win 10 on one of the blades like some of the Sonnet adapters?
 

saltinbanquis

macrumors newbie
May 17, 2017
7
1
I used
Did you use the blade heatsinks provided w/ the adapter or get aftermarket?

Any problems booting Win 10 on one of the blades like some of the Sonnet adapters?
I use the ones provided. So far I don’t feel I need to use aftermarket.

I do not boot windows, so I cannot say.
 

Quadra950Fan

macrumors newbie
Jul 29, 2022
4
1
Sacramento, CA
Yes, I kept V3 and that is what I am currently using. You need to use 2 nvme sticks, as reported, otherwise system will crash. Also, be sure to place the card on slot 1, particularly if you are using an RX580 or similar card, else you risk the fans of the card hitting the capacitors on the bottom of the nvme card (you could use a spacer as well but I did not opt for this route). I had that happen to an older card and some capacitors came flying off!

Other than that, this card is perfect for the 5,1 or 4,1.

Put a price watch, so you ensure getting it at the right price. I paid about 150$. They are crazy expensive now.
Hi Saltinbanquis, after quite a bit of research I ended up purchasing one of these Syba, probably the V3 card like you have, I'll have to pull it out to confirm. After purchasing I noticed the red text that somehow I missed in the previous several times looking over the post. Low and behold it does crash on my at least doing speed tests, I have not yet loaded any OS due to this issue.

You mentioned that you need 2 NVMe cards and it works just fine... I'd just like to know if I understood that correctly. I'll be happy to purchase one more card if that might be likely to resolve the crashing issue.

I'd be happy to hear about some experience you or others may have had.
 

basslik

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Feb 22, 2008
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Hi Saltinbanquis, after quite a bit of research I ended up purchasing one of these Syba, probably the V3 card like you have, I'll have to pull it out to confirm. After purchasing I noticed the red text that somehow I missed in the previous several times looking over the post. Low and behold it does crash on my at least doing speed tests, I have not yet loaded any OS due to this issue.

You mentioned that you need 2 NVMe cards and it works just fine... I'd just like to know if I understood that correctly. I'll be happy to purchase one more card if that might be likely to resolve the crashing issue.

I'd be happy to hear about some experience you or others may have had.
Running two samsung Evo 970's with my Syba and it runs really well. Huge Pro Tools sessions with many plugins.
 
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jggorman

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Jul 4, 2011
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I have the SI-PEX40129 installed in slot one and I was getting great speeds from my boot nvme installed in it in High Sierra. I think installed Opencore and Mojave and the speeds are slower even though the card is still in slot one. Any help would be appreciated.
 

serdar13

macrumors newbie
Jul 17, 2018
12
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I'd be interested in taking that cable too, but it doesn't ship to Italy and I can't find it on another site.
Can anyone help me if I have to find it please?
Thanks.
Thanks, you can find that cable on Amazon also:
Hi, I cannot find this cable anywhere in the UK or anywhere that stocks it and can post to the Uk. Can anyone help?
 
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