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Technical analysis on iOS planned obsolescence
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Of course that is the case. But everything apple doesn't do has a margin associated with it. It's a big, evil, greedy corporation, who through brilliant marketing has recruited a generation or two of "isheep", who can't wait to throw their hard-earned money at apple thus killing innovation for the rest the folks who would like apple to go bankrupt to teach them a lesson or two because they couldn't downgrade from ios 9 to ios 6. While apple management goes to nefarious places so their conversations on how to slow down future IOS versions in such a way as to be undetectable, while at the same time showing a benevolent smile and a friendly handshake making you believe they have your back and the itch to upgrade is all in your head; not planted by them.
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Yep.
It's so difficult to follow this forum nowadays without being indicated as an idiotic sheep anxious to throw my money to an evil liar company.
That may be your opinion.Too bad my device and the dozens of Youtube videos disagree
Well, you can argue for or against planned obsolescence.
I do agree basic UI like scrolling and whatnot should be quite optimized at this point that it shouldn't be "lagging," unless there are simply too many additional APIs and background processes taking up the GPU time to render the pixels.
I believe it's more about Apple not optimizing the OS enough for the older devices. One can argue whether it's intentional or not, but I think it's more about they just don't have the time to do so. Windows has longer product cycle and actual demand for it to function well on legacy devices. Apple does (did) not really have the burden so much. Add on top of that the "pressure" created by themselves to push "new" iOS version on the yearly basis, it seems logical to think that Apple engineers would prioritize optimizations for the newer devices first. I believe from iOS 10 onwards, the focus will be on 64bit SoCs. I am looking at my iPhone 5 that is running iOS9 like a champ, and saddened that it might meet its time with iOS 10.
Another thing I think is most critical is GPU. I think this is why Apple is really pushing towards GPU performance on the Ax SoCs, in contrast to other off-the-shelf chips that focus on CPU cores. The first wake up call was the iPad retina display, and then iOS7. I am wondering if the A9X has enough juice for the iPad Pro (hopefully Apple learned a thing or two from the A5X).
As for the iPhone 4S, the A5 itself had a pretty good run imo. It survived the huge UI switch to iOS7 good enough, unlike the poor A4.
And to put things into a more positive perspective, the grass is not any greener on the other side. Almost all Android devices I have used have performance issues. Heck, my OnePlus One is lagging like a low-end phone on Lollipop, and the device is barely even a year old.
I do agree basic UI like scrolling and whatnot should be quite optimized at this point that it shouldn't be "lagging," unless there are simply too many additional APIs and background processes taking up the GPU time to render the pixels.
I believe it's more about Apple not optimizing the OS enough for the older devices. One can argue whether it's intentional or not, but I think it's more about they just don't have the time to do so. Windows has longer product cycle and actual demand for it to function well on legacy devices. Apple does (did) not really have the burden so much. Add on top of that the "pressure" created by themselves to push "new" iOS version on the yearly basis, it seems logical to think that Apple engineers would prioritize optimizations for the newer devices first. I believe from iOS 10 onwards, the focus will be on 64bit SoCs. I am looking at my iPhone 5 that is running iOS9 like a champ, and saddened that it might meet its time with iOS 10.
Another thing I think is most critical is GPU. I think this is why Apple is really pushing towards GPU performance on the Ax SoCs, in contrast to other off-the-shelf chips that focus on CPU cores. The first wake up call was the iPad retina display, and then iOS7. I am wondering if the A9X has enough juice for the iPad Pro (hopefully Apple learned a thing or two from the A5X).
As for the iPhone 4S, the A5 itself had a pretty good run imo. It survived the huge UI switch to iOS7 good enough, unlike the poor A4.
And to put things into a more positive perspective, the grass is not any greener on the other side. Almost all Android devices I have used have performance issues. Heck, my OnePlus One is lagging like a low-end phone on Lollipop, and the device is barely even a year old.
Sigh...I was expecting citations and numbers, not a bunch of blind assumptions about how software works. This isn't a "technical analysis" as much as it is a casual rant.
I don't care about YouTube videos.
YouTube is literally FULL OF BS.
Clickbaits and totally invented issues are daily bread for Youtubers.
iOS 9 is, by far, the best iOS version I ever seen on any iDevice , and even my old iPad Air runs it flawlessly.
Then tell me WTF changed visually from iOS 8 to 9 ? The blur got more "blurry" ? The beauty of Apple devices was exactly in the optimization and not needing a Quad-Core and gigs of RAM for their mobile OS like the competitors one. And at the end of the day iOS was still smoother and more responsive to touch.
Because if nothing is changed and newer iOS is "optimized" for newer released hardware, then that's just a BS expression for guess what - planned obsolescence.
Perhaps they should've made sure Metal was actually faster than OpenGL before claiming it is.
Jailbreak and remove all animations. That would make your iPhone extremely fast on any iOS. As a bonus you can also tweak your phone to make it your own.
Also most people compare I OS 8.4.2 which is a finished iOS to 9.0 or 9.1 an unfinished iOS. That is a poor comparison. Once Apple releases 9.4.2 it would be as smooth as 8.4.2. Gone are the days when Apple releases an iOS that is finished on the first try.
These comparisons are flawed. They are comparing iOS 9.0 to iOS 8.4.2. The latter is a finish product and the former has just been introduced. Wait till 9.4.2 and then compare it to 8.4.2. I am sure that 9.4 would be as smooth as 8.4
Finished OS? Did I somehow miss "iOS 9 isn't finished" small print disclaimer on release in September? If it ain't finished, then don't release it, this ain't Google beta service #73 and customers don't pay premium money for **** like this.
Well, I'm not an Apple engineer, so although I know you are upset, but you yourself wouldn't know the reason either, right? So instead of assuming your preconception of planned obsolescence, maybe the anger is better used to support other products that offer better fit for you?
Should basic UI be smooth? Absolutely! I agree with you. On the other hand, Apple (and any companies out there) doesn't really care whether you think there's planned obsolescence or not. You can stop supporting Apple if it made you really upset. Apple is already went above and beyond the industry in terms of supporting their products (compared to majority of Android phones that got abandoned by the OEMs the minute they were launched, and were obsolete the moment Google release the next Android version). Which one would you say is more towards planned obsolescence?
Thing is with Android devices like Nexus,Google offers a downgrade to any version I like.On Android there's no force to upgrade as the new API are updated via Play Services.Therefore you don't run the risk of missing out on latest games and apps
That's fine, but wasn't really the aspect of it that I was replying to.
Welcome to iOS. What else is new or surprising in any of that?
Google can deliver some component updates via Play Store, but there are still inherent updates that are integral to the main Android OS. You are not missing much on latest games and apps because Android developers knew that if they only support the latest Android OS, they can only reach a tiny amount of users. To get many users, they need to develop apps for the lowest common denominator. Different story.
Doesn't change the fact that Android phones do lag also. I mean I have the OnePlus One with 3GB RAM and Snapdragon 801, which are still a beast in theory. Yet it's a lagfest after Lollipop update.
Maybe refined is a better word for you. iOS 9.1 is not as refined yet as iOS 8.4.2. Once iOS 9.1 becomes 9.4, then comparisons with 8.4.2 become more appropriate. Right now they should not be compared. iOS 9.1 is not as refined as 8.4.