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danleon950410

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Okay, this thread got ridiculous from 0 to 100 as days went by.
Both parties are partially right, but it's not possible to give the reason to one or another.

Op is right, there are a lot of iphones (6) suffering those issues on iOS 9, A LOT, NOT ALL OF THEM.
The greater part is working as it should...What's the cause of this? Only Apple knows...

Performance decreasing is a fact: Even minimal, it's still there, and from the last model to the oldest one it becomes more obvious, you know, because of the hardware limitations or something like that.
The problem with iOS 9 is that they announced that it was going to be faster, which is simply not true, and the best cases are getting the same result as iOS 8, even benchmarks have concluded this.

Then we have the people that so blindly and angrily defends Apple...No words, just take a look at the whole thread.
"Completely full of themselves" describes a bunch, a very quickly joker describes the other bunch.
No wonder that some are being called "Fanboys", with almost no arguments other than the typical "i'm not suffering that"

Something to note: Owning a device (even for some years) gives you experience, NOT A GOD DAMN EXPERT DEGREE ON THE SUBJECT!
 

jayf

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Lol. My 6 is running perfect. Not one thing wrong. Sure I'd like more battery life, but ios9 didn't make it any worse. I suggest you go buy an android or learn how to set up and use your iPhone properly.
 

CupertinoSlave

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Lol. My 6 is running perfect. Not one thing wrong. Sure I'd like more battery life, but ios9 didn't make it any worse. I suggest you go buy an android or learn how to set up and use your iPhone properly.
What a ridiculous comment. Why would you refer someone to an even laggier OS? People used iOS because it was smooth.
 

wbrat

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You guys will kill me, but my iPhone 4S runs better with iOS 9 than it was with iOS 8. On the other hand, I also have iPhone 5 and in this case iOS8 was better than iOS 9 is (to be precise - I've got iOS 9.0.2 on iPhone 5 and iOS 9.1 beta 3 on iPhone 4S).

If the theory that Apple intentionally make older devices slower is true, then my case is somehow weird.
 

jayf

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Oct 5, 2014
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What a ridiculous comment. Why would you refer someone to an even laggier OS? People used iOS because it was smooth.
Exactly my point. Nit picky petty complaints. Go use a non Apple OS and see how good you have it. For Free.
 

Will22

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Settings opens to the top of the page with the search bar showing. Is that not correct?

This is how it opens on all 4 iPhone 6s phones I've had.
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snowmoon

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This is how it opens on all 4 iPhone 6s phones I've had.

I've seen others saying it's a known bug in 9.0.x at this point, don't know about 9.1 betas. EDIT: same on my Air 2.

My experience with ios 9 has been neutral so far, nothing horrifically bad, but nothing worth upgrading from 8 at this point.
 

dk001

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Oct 3, 2014
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There have been so many "it's bad, it's laggy, it's broke, it's not ..." that I decided to do a little testing this weekend.

I took the following:
iPad Mini 3 LTE 64GB, iPhone 6 plus 64GB, iPhone 6S Plus 64GB and reset all to factory and 9.0.2. Executed all while connected to split 2.4ghz/5ghz 200/20 wifi. I used resets to avoid OTA and all the inconsistencies it seems to bring device to device. OTA is a worry.

The results surprised me.

I tested scrolling screen to screen, opening Notifications, Control Center, Task manager and Spotlight. I opened and closed core apps. I opened and closed business, gaming, video, and shopping apps. I did not try to cover everything, just enough to get a feel.

To level set my "experience" I matched these against a Note 5 64GB to avoid becoming "used to" the experience.

Screen to screen:
  • 6S+ - very smooth but felt syrupy.
  • 6+ - smooth but syrupy
  • i3 - smooth but encountered small chops when changing fast

Notifications, Control Center, Task manager and Spotlight:
  • 6S+ - very smooth though the bounce back was a bit much except for Task Mgr.
  • 6+ - smooth but encountered a stutter on first open of Control Center and Task Mgr. During testing the 6+ just shut down. Had to use the power button to bring back up. No info in D&U.
  • i3 - smooth but a chop on first open of Spotlight and Control Center. Task Mgr was okay.

Core Apps: This was disturbing. All apps paused then loaded. Wait time was more significant on the i3.
  • 6S+ - Email - all was good. Calender - all was good. Safari - all was good
  • 6+ - Email - some emails paused then loaded, offline some emails displayed only header. Calender - all was good. Safari - serious stutter on long pages, had one tab (CNN) just fail and close during testing. iCloud and App Store asked for id verification 2x
  • i3 - Email - some emails paused then loaded, offline some emails displayed only header. Calender - was good. Safari - serious stutter on long pages, had some tabs reload, other tabs crashed. Photos - had one photo download end up in the Screenshot gallery.

Apps:
  • 6S+ - most worked well though I did see some glitches - likely fixed in updates. All launched slow but ran quickly once opened.
  • 6S - most worked well but launched slowly, some had pauses that didn't exist under 8.4 - likely fixed in updates.
  • i3 - most worked well but saw some strange behavior in the opening sequence (click icon/icon fades out/icon fades in/app launches), pauses were longest of all three devices.

Overall Feel: 9.0.2 didn't do older models any justice. Trading old bugs for new bugs. We'll see going forward.
  • 6S+ - smooth, worked well, saw some bugs. Runs like I'm swimming in light syrup.
  • 6+ - smooth with some lag and seems to have a number of bugs. Safari is still a big issue and you can add mail, especially off-line to that. Runs like I'm swimming into small waves.
  • i3 - not so smooth with some lag and seems to have a number of bugs. Safari is still a big issue and you can add mail, especially off-line to that. Runs like I am swimming in chop.

I used the Note 5 (Android 5.1.1 on Nova Prime) as my level set to ensure I am fairly comparing the iDevices. On a personal note: I will say the Note 5 ran quicker, snappy smooth, and with less apparent issues than any of the iDevices on 9.0.2. That by itself is a disappointment. I expected more from the 6S+.
 

Will22

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Lol. My 6 is running perfect. Not one thing wrong. Sure I'd like more battery life, but ios9 didn't make it any worse. I suggest you go buy an android or learn how to set up and use your iPhone properly.

I have had several android phones that are a lot smoother in operation than my 6s

HTC M8
Nexus 5
Nexus 6
Oppo Find 7
Oneplus One
Moto X
S6 and S6 edge

I still want to stay with iOS and my 6s and until we have jailbreak for iOS 9 I will keep using my 6 which is on 8.4

Telling people to learn how to set up there phone is a little daft. I have tried everything from DFU restore to setting up as new and it is still the same.
 

iJcaP

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I'm not gonna lie, yes my 6 Plus is significantly slower with iOS 9. That doesn't mean there isn't a fix. I know restoring it and setting it up as a new device will fix this. The only thing is that, I don't want to lose any Apple Watch Activity Data. And to be honest the phone has been running slow since iOS 8.4. Right now it's just a culmination of corrupt files I guess that are really contributing to the performance. Resetting all Settings didn't do much. You can't have your cake and eat it too, but it's kinda sad how there's an export option for Health Data, but not Activity Data.
 
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iJcaP

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The problem with iOS 9 is that they announced that it was going to be faster, which is simply not true, and the best cases are getting the same result as iOS 8, even benchmarks have concluded this.

It's even more frustrating that they came through with that promise on OS X El Capitan, and not iOS. El Capitan IS faster on my 2013 MBA. It's kinda freaky how they made things a lot more fluid and quick. I thought a 2 year old machine couldn't get faster.
 

blogbytes

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When some people say it is as smooth as iOS 8, I believe them. It's just that you don't notice the lag, also known as FPS lag. Your eyes just don't notice it.

An example, not iPhone related but the same principal applies.

I own a 144hz monitor. Some of my mates say it feels much smoother than 60hz, some don't notice it. Same thing with iOS 9. Some people just have more sensitive eyes. I have sensitive eyes and I am not lying when I say iOS 9 lags. iOS 8 to me was butter smooth. And this is the same one EVERY iPhone 6. There no such thing as it runs smooth on one and not the other.

But I won't argue. I see it, you don't. To me iOS 9 is a pile of sheet so far.
 

31 Flavas

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.. for deliberately and maliciously crippling the iPhone 6 all to increase sales of the 6S
{... snip ...}
Now I can understand why my iPad Air has been crippled (it has a good run of a few years), but my 6 is barely a year old. Now it feels like a piece of junk.
They could just swear off on iOS version updates. Would you, instead, like to be forced to buy a new iPhone to get a new iOS version? I'm sure Apple would love to offer that. It would sure sell more iPhones. But, I don't think you'd be happy either way.
 

Will22

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I'm not gonna lie, yes my 6 Plus is significantly slower with iOS 9. That doesn't mean there isn't a fix. I know restoring it and setting it up as a new device will fix this. The only thing is that, I don't want to lose any Apple Watch Activity Data. And to be honest the phone has been running slow since iOS 8.4. Right now it's just a culmination of corrupt files I guess that are really contributing to the performance. Resetting all Settings didn't do much. You can't have your cake and eat it too, but it's kinda sad how there's an export option for Health Data, but not Activity Data.

I even tried a full restore and set my Air 2 and 6s up as new and it didn't help.
 

31 Flavas

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is this a joke..? people still believe this.? people think hardware doesnt age.? not like the iphone 6 is "slow/freezing/stuttering/locking up/etc" anyway, unstable android? have u even used an android like gingerbread..?

so many questions..
Moreover, if the iPhone 6 with it's A8 processor is being 'burdened' by iOS 9 (over iOS 8) -- why aren't forums flooded with screams of bloody murder from iPhone 4S owners who only have a 'paltry' A5?
 
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vertsix

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I wish there was a thumbs down button, so people could vote down these dumb threads and make them disappear.

No lag on iPhone 6, not even on 5. There's something wrong with your iOS. Restore, setup as new, try something, because that not how iOS runs for other people.

One thing that I'll give you is iPad Air, it's multitasking animations have low frame rate. Opening multitasking and closing it.
What an ignorant statement.

So everyone that's been saying the same thing is wrong?

If it were a few people complaining about these things it would be understandable, but I've seen countless of people saying the same thing about iOS 9 (that it's stupidly slow and crippled) not only here, but in real life.

And if you look at freshly restored iOS devices with iOS 9, you can clearly see how much more crippled and slow it is compared to 8.4.1.
 
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Act3

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They could just swear off on iOS version updates. Would you, instead, like to be forced to buy a new iPhone to get a new iOS version? I'm sure Apple would love to offer that. It would sure sell more iPhones. But, I don't think you'd be happy either way.

How about they just don't make statements about performance improvements ?
 

I7guy

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What an ignorant statement.

So everyone that's been saying the same thing is wrong?

If it were a few people complaining about these things it would be understandable, but I've seen countless of people saying the same thing about iOS 9 (that it's stupidly slow and crippled) not only here, but in real life.

And if you look at freshly restored iOS devices with iOS 9, you can clearly see how much more crippled and slow it is compared to 8.4.1.
Maybe everybody's experience Is different. Seems i also have seen a bunch of threads on "I like iOS 9". In "real life" no one on iOS 9 that I know is complaining.
 

Act3

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Moreover, if the iPhone 6 with it's A8 processor is being 'burdened' by iOS 9 (over iOS 8) -- why aren't forums flooded with screams of bloody murder from iPhone 4S owners who only have a 'paltry' A5?

Maybe because the 4s is now 4 years old, not a little over a year.
 
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ama0219

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Oct 13, 2011
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My 6 plus and mini 3 have been perfectly fine on iOS 9.0.2. Almost no lag and if there is any a simple restart solves the problem. I did not do a clean install either when I updated and still no major issues.

My husband's 6 plus was freezing a bit today but he turned it off and on and it's been fine since. His air 2 has also been fine.

I'm pretty pleased with iOS 9. Sorry to see some are having issues.
 

jayf

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I have had several android phones that are a lot smoother in operation than my 6s

HTC M8
Nexus 5
Nexus 6
Oppo Find 7
Oneplus One
Moto X
S6 and S6 edge

I still want to stay with iOS and my 6s and until we have jailbreak for iOS 9 I will keep using my 6 which is on 8.4

Telling people to learn how to set up there phone is a little daft. I have tried everything from DFU restore to setting up as new and it is still the same.
And all the background refresh, location tracking, memory/data auto settings are modified? This is what I mean about setting up the phone. Turn off all the crap that hogs memory and consumes processing power. My 6 is flawless. No lag, no stutter, fast, etc. I'm happy, and I've been using smart phones since the very first blackberry.
 

vertsix

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Maybe everybody's experience Is different. Seems i also have seen a bunch of threads on "I like iOS 9". In "real life" no one on iOS 9 that I know is complaining.

No, it's not that the experience is different, it just depends on how much attention someone puts on the performance or bugs in iOS.

Surely those that don't care will preach and say that it's running fine, but those that tend to look for inconsistencies (like me) notice the performance issues and bugs ("the little things").
 
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