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LordQ

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Thanks Obama...

Seriously, WTF man? My 4S runs lovely with iOS 9...
 

teknikal90

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AB-SOL-UTELY not, or maybe i just have god's iphone 6 in front of me for the last year, not a SINGLE thing u listed is even close to happening on this phone. 4 seconds for the camera, keyboard freezing the os, really..?

take the thing to an apple store...
i used to think like you, then I got a new iPhone 6, and it still has iOS 8.4.1 and that thing is a speedster.
TouchID is much quicker on iOS 8, thats definitely true. I can definitely feel it.

Scrolling also is way smoother on iOS 8.4.1
Sticking with iOS 8.4.1 now.
 
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I7guy

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No, it's not that the experience is different, it just depends on how much attention someone puts on the performance or bugs in iOS.

Surely those that don't care will preach and say that it's running fine, but those that tend to look for inconsistencies (like me) notice the performance issues and bugs ("the little things").
Think your proving my point. Basically youre saying "everybody is stupid except for me". Riiiihggght.
 

darthbane2k

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What has been particularly bothering me this evening is the keyboard locking up. I've never experienced anything like this before, and I've been with 'iPhone OS' since the 3GS
 

teknikal90

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There have been so many "it's bad, it's laggy, it's broke, it's not ..." that I decided to do a little testing this weekend.

I took the following:
iPad Mini 3 LTE 64GB, iPhone 6 plus 64GB, iPhone 6S Plus 64GB and reset all to factory and 9.0.2. Executed all while connected to split 2.4ghz/5ghz 200/20 wifi. I used resets to avoid OTA and all the inconsistencies it seems to bring device to device. OTA is a worry.

The results surprised me.

I tested scrolling screen to screen, opening Notifications, Control Center, Task manager and Spotlight. I opened and closed core apps. I opened and closed business, gaming, video, and shopping apps. I did not try to cover everything, just enough to get a feel.

To level set my "experience" I matched these against a Note 5 64GB to avoid becoming "used to" the experience.

Screen to screen:
  • 6S+ - very smooth but felt syrupy.
  • 6+ - smooth but syrupy
  • i3 - smooth but encountered small chops when changing fast

Notifications, Control Center, Task manager and Spotlight:
  • 6S+ - very smooth though the bounce back was a bit much except for Task Mgr.
  • 6+ - smooth but encountered a stutter on first open of Control Center and Task Mgr. During testing the 6+ just shut down. Had to use the power button to bring back up. No info in D&U.
  • i3 - smooth but a chop on first open of Spotlight and Control Center. Task Mgr was okay.

Core Apps: This was disturbing. All apps paused then loaded. Wait time was more significant on the i3.
  • 6S+ - Email - all was good. Calender - all was good. Safari - all was good
  • 6+ - Email - some emails paused then loaded, offline some emails displayed only header. Calender - all was good. Safari - serious stutter on long pages, had one tab (CNN) just fail and close during testing. iCloud and App Store asked for id verification 2x
  • i3 - Email - some emails paused then loaded, offline some emails displayed only header. Calender - was good. Safari - serious stutter on long pages, had some tabs reload, other tabs crashed. Photos - had one photo download end up in the Screenshot gallery.

Apps:
  • 6S+ - most worked well though I did see some glitches - likely fixed in updates. All launched slow but ran quickly once opened.
  • 6S - most worked well but launched slowly, some had pauses that didn't exist under 8.4 - likely fixed in updates.
  • i3 - most worked well but saw some strange behavior in the opening sequence (click icon/icon fades out/icon fades in/app launches), pauses were longest of all three devices.

Overall Feel: 9.0.2 didn't do older models any justice. Trading old bugs for new bugs. We'll see going forward.
  • 6S+ - smooth, worked well, saw some bugs. Runs like I'm swimming in light syrup.
  • 6+ - smooth with some lag and seems to have a number of bugs. Safari is still a big issue and you can add mail, especially off-line to that. Runs like I'm swimming into small waves.
  • i3 - not so smooth with some lag and seems to have a number of bugs. Safari is still a big issue and you can add mail, especially off-line to that. Runs like I am swimming in chop.

I used the Note 5 (Android 5.1.1 on Nova Prime) as my level set to ensure I am fairly comparing the iDevices. On a personal note: I will say the Note 5 ran quicker, snappy smooth, and with less apparent issues than any of the iDevices on 9.0.2. That by itself is a disappointment. I expected more from the 6S+.
thanks for this
 

theyearof84

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I've been following all of this since the betas of iOS 9. I have a iPhone 6+ 64GB and I can say without a doubt that I've been experiencing lag AND stuttering while scrolling, while using the multitask switcher, while swiping down on the screen to get the search bar, waiting for 2-3 seconds after a tap for an app to load, the list goes on with 9.0.2.

I'm really happy for all the people out there that have "zero issues" with their iPhones, especially the people who get on here to claim their 6S/6S+ are free of all this ****, because good for you that your brand new phone works on the OS it was all the more likely written for.

First, what I take issue with is the rest of you, I have plenty of friends who have iPhone 6's, all of which I've asked to let me see their phone so I could test out a few things, and you know what? From what I can gather, the 6 doesn't seem to have the prevalent lag when using the multitask switcher (neither does my iPhone 5, FFS) but still exhibits plenty of issues with scrolling and pulling down the screen to access the search bar.

Second, the repeatedly claims that only a full restore and set up as new is the ONLY way to get to that iPhone/iOS nirvana that most of us just assume should be the norm is total ********. I'm sorry but when did iOS get to the point where to have it run optimally you need to do that? And just for the record, I have in fact restored completely, set it up as new, etc etc etc. and I still get all the choppy goodness that goes along with everything I've explained above.

So what's my conclusion? Once again, someone else said it best that Apple wrote iOS 9 with the 6S/6S+ in mind, as they should have, but in the process it seems to me that they were a bit more lackadaisical than usual in optimizing the OS for hardware that should by ALL MEANS run the OS just as smooth as the newer hardware.

End rant.

And if anyone wants to dispute anything I said above, I have ZERO issue recording every single place that iOS 9.0.2 exhibits issues and posting it, just exhausted about reading some people who have no issues because they either have a brand new S model (duh) or clearly aren't perceptive to it.
 

Yun0

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I'm really happy for all the people out there that have "zero issues" with their iPhones, especially the people who get on here to claim their 6S/6S+ are free of all this ****, because good for you that your brand new phone works on the OS it was all the more likely written for.

Once again, someone else said it best that Apple wrote iOS 9 with the 6S/6S+ in mind, as they should have, but in the process it seems to me that they were a bit more lackadaisical than usual in optimizing the OS for hardware that should by ALL MEANS run the OS just as smooth as the newer hardware.

people who have no issues because they clearly aren't perceptive to it.

:rolleyes: guess we're all still "liars", or dont know what stuttering is, etc, or whatever...still trying with that "we arent perceptive" of it crap:rolleyes:
 

Leonard1818

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Can't say I'm an iOS 9 (.0.2) fan. My iPhone 6 has run pretty crappy since the "upgrade". Battery life is worse and I don't really *love* the app switcher and some other new "features".

Performance-wise, it's just OK. I truly feel iOS 8.x.x ran a bit smoother and better on the iPhone 6. I also notice a usability difference on my wife's new 6s where it seems much better (more fluid, maybe)...
 
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theyearof84

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ya thats "trolling", dont hop on the ios X sucks train ur a troll. too bad, millions are just dandy with ios every year, when somethings popular people will look for & create ways for it to fail

most are fine, deal with it

Ooo, great comeback.

Listen up amateur hour, I'm really happy your iPhone 6 is free of lag (as it completely obvious from your continued parade on every single forum topic explaining so, see also: troll), but seeing as how you're on an iPhone 6 which has been KNOWN to run smoother than the 6+ (which I just so happen to have if you'd actually paid attention) you wouldn't have a clue. I've also had the pleasure of testing out more than a few friends iPhone 6's, all which experience the same problems I just described above FOR THE 6 (see pulling down search bar, scrolling, etc. NOT MULTITASK), and also one friend who just got a 6S, which runs everything silky smooth.

So if you want to continue to blindly sit there and claim your lag free, go for it, but for the rest of us who actually have problems, how about you shut the **** up.

Thanks.
 
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Yun0

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Ooo, great comeback.

Listen up amateur hour, I'm really happy your iPhone 6 is free of lag (as it completely obvious from your continued parade on every single forum topic explaining so, see also: troll), but seeing as how you're on an iPhone 6 which has been KNOWN to run smoother than the 6+ (which I just so happen to have if you'd actually paid attention) you wouldn't have a clue. I've also had the pleasure of testing out more than a few friends iPhone 6's, all which experience the same problems I just described above FOR THE 6 (see pulling down search bar, scrolling, etc. NOT MULTITASK), and also one friend who just got a 6S, which runs everything silky smooth.

So if you want to continue to blindly sit there and claim your lag free, go for it, but for the rest of us who actually have problems, how about you shut the **** up.

Thanks.

oh save it, sell ur iphone & go to android or blackberry already if u hate apple so much. dont get hit by the door on ur way out either.
 

theyearof84

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oh save it, sell ur iphone & go to android or blackberry already if u hate apple so much. dont get hit by the door on ur way out either.

I've had every iPhone since the 8GB OG iPhone so save your lazy-ass Android or Blackberry comment.

All I expect is an OS that at least does the core things right and the way it's promised. If you're going to extoll the virtues of switching to something new (Metal) that you claim will boost performance, but then every device sans the one you JUST announced suffers in various ways due to that, then I call ********.

The end.
 

TechGod

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My iPhone 6 isn't as responsive on iOS 9.0.2 as it was on iOS 8.4.1, but I wouldn't' call it terrible by any means.

My iPad 3 is a different story...
Funny how that works. I had the worst experience ever but 10.11 and iOS 9 fixed my issues whereas conversely, it worsened overall performance for others.
 

HankHowdy

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I went to 9.0.2 over the air and animations are choppy. Lag is present when starting apps. I have tried restore as new with no back up. It made no different.

I was on 8.4 and it was so smooth. No issues. I wish I would have stayed.

5S by the way.
 

Yun0

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I've had every iPhone since the 8GB OG iPhone so save your lazy-ass Android or Blackberry comment.

All I expect is an OS that at least does the core things right and the way it's promised. If you're going to extoll the virtues of switching to something new (Metal) that you claim will boost performance, but then every device sans the one you JUST announced suffers in various ways due to that, then I call ********.

The end.

u need to reread ur own inaccurate rant, my quote to it, then this post i just quoted. holy god u are everywhere including upside down. if u think its so bad then leave apple, but thats so hard for u isnt it? instead u want to stay, then post some rant calling us liars & unable to have perspective bla bla, reworded into ur own words, then have a fit when someone doesnt buy into that crap.

/logic/ keep using something thats "so bad" /logic/

a great idea, why dont u go back and shove 8.4.1 or whatever was "perfect", in ur mouth? oh wait, the signing window is closed, like most such as urself, probably didnt think about going back quietly, while u could right? too busy screaming how bad ios 9 is? dont worry in 10 months, ull praise ios 9 & hate ios 10.

okay.
 

RebornProphet

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I'm on iOS 9.0.2, and while my iPhone 6 was smoother on iOS 8.4.1, I have no doubt that by 9.1 or 9.2 it will be on par with 8.4.1.

9.0.2, for an early build, is very good. It's certainly far better than the abysmal 8.0 release on my 5s, now that REALLY felt like a step back versus iOS 7.1.2.

Yes iOS 9.0.2 has some scrolling stutter in certain apps (Twitter and WhatsApp come to mind from personal experience), and some of the UI animations AT TIMES have slight "judders" toward the end, but you need to really look for them.

That's the thing, it doesn't happen all the time. So that leads me to confidently believe that come 9.1 final we'll see further improvements (beta 3 thus far doesn't improve upon 9.0.2 but it's early days).

I just think back to going from iOS 7.1.2 on my 5s and how I felt when I installed 8.0, and then how good iOS 8.4.1 was.

iOS 9 is nowhere near as bad as iOS 8 was at launch. Nowhere.
 

I7guy

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I've been following all of this since the betas of iOS 9. I have a iPhone 6+ 64GB and I can say without a doubt that I've been experiencing lag AND stuttering while scrolling, while using the multitask switcher, while swiping down on the screen to get the search bar, waiting for 2-3 seconds after a tap for an app to load, the list goes on with 9.0.2.

I'm really happy for all the people out there that have "zero issues" with their iPhones, especially the people who get on here to claim their 6S/6S+ are free of all this ****, because good for you that your brand new phone works on the OS it was all the more likely written for.

First, what I take issue with is the rest of you, I have plenty of friends who have iPhone 6's, all of which I've asked to let me see their phone so I could test out a few things, and you know what? From what I can gather, the 6 doesn't seem to have the prevalent lag when using the multitask switcher (neither does my iPhone 5, FFS) but still exhibits plenty of issues with scrolling and pulling down the screen to access the search bar.

Second, the repeatedly claims that only a full restore and set up as new is the ONLY way to get to that iPhone/iOS nirvana that most of us just assume should be the norm is total ********. I'm sorry but when did iOS get to the point where to have it run optimally you need to do that? And just for the record, I have in fact restored completely, set it up as new, etc etc etc. and I still get all the choppy goodness that goes along with everything I've explained above.

So what's my conclusion? Once again, someone else said it best that Apple wrote iOS 9 with the 6S/6S+ in mind, as they should have, but in the process it seems to me that they were a bit more lackadaisical than usual in optimizing the OS for hardware that should by ALL MEANS run the OS just as smooth as the newer hardware.

End rant.

And if anyone wants to dispute anything I said above, I have ZERO issue recording every single place that iOS 9.0.2 exhibits issues and posting it, just exhausted about reading some people who have no issues because they either have a brand new S model (duh) or clearly aren't perceptive to it.
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I'm on iOS 9.0.2, and while my iPhone 6 was smoother on iOS 8.4.1, I have no doubt that by 9.1 or 9.2 it will be on par with 8.4.1.

9.0.2, for an early build, is very good. It's certainly far better than the abysmal 8.0 release on my 5s, now that REALLY felt like a step back versus iOS 7.1.2.

Yes iOS 9.0.2 has some scrolling stutter in certain apps (Twitter and WhatsApp come to mind from personal experience), and some of the UI animations AT TIMES have slight "judders" toward the end, but you need to really look for them.

That's the thing, it doesn't happen all the time. So that leads me to confidently believe that come 9.1 final we'll see further improvements (beta 3 thus far doesn't improve upon 9.0.2 but it's early days).

I just think back to going from iOS 7.1.2 on my 5s and how I felt when I installed 8.0, and then how good iOS 8.4.1 was.

iOS 9 is nowhere near as bad as iOS 8 was at launch. Nowhere.
you are absolutely correct and while there are certain areas in iOS 9, that visually aren't up to par (think recent calls!) a lot of iOS 9 is better than iOS 7.1.2 or 8.1.4 ever was. Safari, my biggest use case is far better than iOS 8 with the updated javascript engine. Mail my second biggest use case seems to be on-par as do other apps. Other apps like gmail, no issue or on par. All in all 9.0.2 i rate highly.
 
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XTheLancerX

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I wouldn't say it's AWFUL AND UNUSABLE and totally CRIPPLED. Issues are definitely there, I'm one of the very vocal few. I see lag and dropped frames everywhere on my iPhone 6 where it never used to be. APP SWITCHER, control center, spotlight, and tapping app icons are the main issues that come to mind. I've done like two clean installs, one was a full DFU mode reinstall of iOS, and I still see the issues on my iPhone as well as other people's I've used. It for sure is very annoying to be seeing this, but I can still use my iPhone 6 perfectly well. It's just sort of irking/annoying to see the dropped frames but life goes on. We will see as things improve in coming 9.x updates. I think 9.1 is going to be a very moderate improvement because it mainly is for iPad Pro support. 9.2 if that's a thing is where we will see more improvement in my opinion.
 

teknikal90

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oh save it, sell ur iphone & go to android or blackberry already if u hate apple so much. dont get hit by the door on ur way out either.
you have such an attitude... it's really unnecessary. i hope your iphone breaks lol

EDIT: the last part was a joke.
 

TMRJIJ

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.. for deliberately and maliciously crippling the iPhone 6 all to increase sales of the 6S

Thank you for..
1) a buggy running version of ios9
2) stuttering animations
3) the removal of smooth scrolling in app and in browser
4) for my keyboard to periodically lock up and completely freeze my system when I do something as 'complicated' as type
5) for deliberately slowing down Touch ID just to emphasise the faster Touch ID if 6S
6) For making apps take a full second to even respond and launch after tapping on an icon, and for making the camera app take 4 seconds to be ready to take a photo, allowing the Kodak moment to long pass.
7) for making my once smooth phone feel like an unstable android device.


Now I can understand why my iPad Air has been crippled (it has a good run of a few years), but my 6 is barely a year old. Now it feels like a piece of junk.

Useless thread I've ever seen today. I literally wasted five minutes of my life that I will never get back from reading this. My iPhone 6 is performing tasks better with each iOS 9 release and this guy still believes in that stupid planned obsolescence myth.
 

CTHarrryH

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IOS 10 is terrible - Apple released it to make every device on the planet run terribly and force us to buy and iPhone 2325 250 years before it get released.

I'm guilty of this also but maybe we all should stop reading all these stupid threads. Apple is always wrong even through it could be some app causing this issue -but never would someone try logically to eliminate some apps they run to see exactly what is causing their supposed major issues.
 
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Max(IT)

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.. for deliberately and maliciously crippling the iPhone 6 all to increase sales of the 6S

Thank you for..
1) a buggy running version of ios9
2) stuttering animations
3) the removal of smooth scrolling in app and in browser
4) for my keyboard to periodically lock up and completely freeze my system when I do something as 'complicated' as type
5) for deliberately slowing down Touch ID just to emphasise the faster Touch ID if 6S
6) For making apps take a full second to even respond and launch after tapping on an icon, and for making the camera app take 4 seconds to be ready to take a photo, allowing the Kodak moment to long pass.
7) for making my once smooth phone feel like an unstable android device.


Now I can understand why my iPad Air has been crippled (it has a good run of a few years), but my 6 is barely a year old. Now it feels like a piece of junk.
Never had any of this issues on my iPhone 6 nor on my iPad Air

On the contrary I'm very happy about iOS 9 and I think I can keep my iPad Air another year
 
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