You can see the cliff notes on this BBC feed
Its basically how signing CR7 proved a wrong choice. And comments on player's egos, failed signings, Maguire, and overall tenure
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Its basically how signing CR7 proved a wrong choice. And comments on player's egos, failed signings, Maguire, and overall tenure
Can't say anything I saw in the summaries of the OGS interview were particularly surprising or completely wrong-headed.
He's a very good and decent man who I wanted to see succeed as manager, but he wasn't nearly strong or forceful enough for the job, nor was his footballing vision sophisticated enough for the times. He probably sheltered the players a bit too much, and they got even more entitled.
Back to today and the extremely threadbare looking squad ETH took to Munich, I guess I'm glad they're playing the most unwinnable UCL group match now when the squad is at such a low point. Even coming away from this match with a point will be a big boost, but I have zero expectations.
He's a very good and decent man who I wanted to see succeed as manager, but he wasn't nearly strong or forceful enough for the job, nor was his footballing vision sophisticated enough for the times. He probably sheltered the players a bit too much, and they got even more entitled.
Back to today and the extremely threadbare looking squad ETH took to Munich, I guess I'm glad they're playing the most unwinnable UCL group match now when the squad is at such a low point. Even coming away from this match with a point will be a big boost, but I have zero expectations.
The league title is now meaningless to Bayern, except as a source of anxiety that they might fail to win it as is now perennially expected. So these European matches are the only competition they face all season, and they are under immense pressure to win. A great setup for an 'upset' if you want to call it that, but yeah, I am expecting a comfortable Bayern win here.
Have to agree with you. A Manchester United win would be a pretty big shock.
Arsenal are ahead by three goals to nil against PSV, while Manchester United trail Bayern by two goals to nil.
Half-time beckons.
Half-time beckons.
Would seem the editors over at Football365 seem to think ETH is on his way to getting sacked
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Ten Hag must take responsibility for Man Utd transfer 'disaster' as sack prediction is made
Erik ten Hag will be sacked as soon as Manchester United are 'mathematically out of the top 4 race' unless he shows Red Devils fans 'great football'...
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Ten Hag is going to be leading the 'sack race' in the media, but in truth he isn't the problem right now - or to put it another way, I would highlight the owners, executives and some of the players as bigger contributors to current underperformance than the manager.
But of course, the manager is always the first person on the chopping block.
But of course, the manager is always the first person on the chopping block.
It has always been the players that have been the problem in my opinion but when ever a United manger has tried to rectify the problem it is the manager that is always the one the media say is the problem.
Agreed.
Unfortunately, it is always easier to fire one person (a manager, or coach), rather than eleven, let alone place a critical glove on the owners.
Utd's problem isn't the managers. That many managers can't all be the problem. At some point you have to look at the top.
They don't seem to have any real strategy which is illustrated by the spending and player types being purchased.
ETH probably is stuck with getting results now vs building from the ground up. The distractions off-pitch dont help either but thats where you earn your money. Pep, Arteta, and Klopp have all had to deal with it.
Utd faithful need to accept they'll be in the wilderness for a bit and aim to rebuild a squad around a recognised system of play.
Probably wont happen till the Glazers are excised.
They don't seem to have any real strategy which is illustrated by the spending and player types being purchased.
ETH probably is stuck with getting results now vs building from the ground up. The distractions off-pitch dont help either but thats where you earn your money. Pep, Arteta, and Klopp have all had to deal with it.
Utd faithful need to accept they'll be in the wilderness for a bit and aim to rebuild a squad around a recognised system of play.
Probably wont happen till the Glazers are excised.
Harry Kane showing United what they missed out on. To be fair they would probably have ruined him!
What I have noticed in Manchester United - (and in teams managed by The Special One) - is that players rarely improve, actually, never improve - develop, evolve, grow, learn - while at United, even if they arrive there is good shape.
Echoing @Apple fanboy's wry comment about the club "ruining" Harry Kane had Manchester United actually managed to purchase him, over the past decade, I find it hard to think of a United player who left Old Trafford a better player than when he had arrived at the club.
That is a problem that goes deeper than a series of managers.
Agreed.
Unfortunately, the problem is that whatever replaces them is likely to be a good deal worse - such as yet another link in the chain of the Saudi PIF (Public Investment Fund).
Since the glory days of the Matt Busby era, it took United 4 managers before they landed on a 5 that brought the club glory again. Since Ferguson left (retired) the club have gone through 4 managers (technically 6 but 2 were one month temp so have not included them) and now they are on their 5. Is history going to repeat itself? because remember Ferguson had already been at the club for 4-5 years and was close to getting the sack but with an FA Cup saving his hide. Would the club give the same length of time to ETH? or would they sack him after the 2nd or 3rd year if the club do not win the league or the champions league.
Four gaols ahead at the 91st minute.
Yes, I think that I can relax and enjoy my beer (and crisps).
With City at large (and horribly successful), and United in their current dysfunctional and disorganised state, I cannot see them winning either the Premier League - or the Champions League - any time in the near (or medium) future.
4-3 is always the most exciting scoreline - though Casemiro's heroics make it look like a closer match than it actually was.
Yes, they did compete (despite Bayern's dominance), going down to defeat, at the death, the final gasp of the game, by four goals to three.
ETH getting sacked then (probably) (does have league cup to his name though)
LVG won FA Cup, still sacked
Mourinho, won League Cup, Europa League Cup and the community shield* (*shared) still sacked
all the other managers won nothing, still sacked.