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Lord Blackadder

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2-0, fantastic finish from Salah.

Edit: nope, VAR'd.

Edit 2: Then Chelsea strike twice in as many minutes....one gets VAR'd but 1-1 and 'Pool's defending is all over the place. Chelsea not necessarily a lot better, to be fair. Salah has already had 3 good chances.
 
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Lord Blackadder

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Sterling is torturing Robertson right now, he's winning every 1v1 duel it seems. Salah is having equal good fortune against Colwill on Chelsea's left. The game is being played at both ends right now, so it's hard to judge midfield performances, though Szobozlai is covering a lot of ground and looking lively.
 
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Ah, interesting.

That makes some sort of sense.

When I read the story (shortly before you posted it) in today's Guardian/Observer, I was struck by the fact that it was strangely short on background and context and gave no explanation whatsoever - not even a sugar-coated PR exercise of an explanation - for this news.
Mancini just posted on his Instagram that resigning was his personal choice, so he basically gave no reason.
 

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1-1 is a fair result, especially away at Stamford Bridge. Liverpool - Chelsea is always a draw. Both teams were probably lucky not concede additional goals though good chances were rare.

Liverpool spent much of the second half under pressure, and more or less dealing with it but not looking comfortable. Salah furious when yanked in the 77th. Chelsea are one of the tougher teams Liverpool will face this season, so I expected a tight, difficult match. In that context I don't think too many big conclusions can be drawn. The new signings look good - Szoboslai was very lively. Against teams with less collective recovery pace than Chelsea I think the goals will come.

Is the plan to use MacAllister as a D-Mid replacement for Fabinho the whole season? Granted this was a tough opponent, but Liverpool's defense does not look substantially improved over last season based on this evidence. Liverpool's system stretches their own defensive shape and demands superb coordination and positioning - and it's not quite there.

As for Chelsea, I think it's harder to call. Up till now they have been not so much a team as a player collection project. Poch is not an instant impact type of manager but I do assume he will improve things over time. As long as the ownership are willing to exhibit a patience they have never shown previosuly...

...hoping we get to see a third Frank Lampard managerial stint at Chelsea before the season is out. 🤣

Chelsea look set to win the battle for Caicedo and Lavia, so advantage Chelsea in the transfer market.

Mancini just posted on his Instagram that resigning was his personal choice, so he basically gave no reason.

He could have just shrugged and said 'I'm Italian, I don't need reasons.'
 
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1-1 is a fair result, especially away at Stamford Bridge. Liverpool - Chelsea is always a draw. Both teams were probably lucky not concede additional goals though good chances were rare.

Liverpool spent much of the second half under pressure, and more or less dealing with it but not looking comfortable. Salah furious when yanked in the 77th. Chelsea are one of the tougher teams Liverpool will face this season, so I expected a tight, difficult match. In that context I don't think too many big conclusions can be drawn. The new signings look good - Szoboslai was very lively. Against teams with less collective recovery pace than Chelsea I think the goals will come.

Is the plan to use MacAllister as a D-Mid replacement for Fabinho the whole season? Granted this was a tough opponent, but Liverpool's defense does not look substantially improved over last season based on this evidence. Liverpool's system stretches their own defensive shape and demands superb coordination and positioning - and it's not quite there.

As for Chelsea, I think it's harder to call. Up till now they have been not so much a team as a player collection project. Poch is not an instant impact type of manager but I do assume he will improve things over time. As long as the ownership are willing to exhibit a patience they have never shown previosuly...

...hoping we get to see a third Frank Lampard managerial stint at Chelsea before the season is out. 🤣

Chelsea look set to win the battle for Caicedo and Lavia, so advantage Chelsea in the transfer market.



He could have just shrugged and said 'I'm Italian, I don't need reasons.'
Lol. If Frank Lampard gets another stint at the helm at Stamford Bridge that will be hilarious! We can live in hope.
 

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And Romeo Lavia is supposedly next on the Chelsea list. Having been gazzumped twice by Chelsea for their top CDM targets, where does Liverpool turn next?

After all that money spent, they still have a weirdly unbalanced squad, but they also have Poch managing them and no European distractions. It's going to be interesting to see where they end up.
 

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And Romeo Lavia is supposedly next on the Chelsea list. Having been gazzumped twice by Chelsea for their top CDM targets, where does Liverpool turn next?

After all that money spent, they still have a weirdly unbalanced squad, but they also have Poch managing them and no European distractions. It's going to be interesting to see where they end up.
Reports over the weekend were that the Lavia deal would exceed £55m.
We wanted £50m, so clearly Boehly has money to burn and will overpay for his targets if someone else is interested.

I just look forward to being the richest club in the Championship by some margin, with well in excess of £125m in income from sales, whilst not being able to attract decent players, due to our place in the pyramid.

With that said, Jack Stephens has been named captain of Saints, with JWP heading for the exit door and promptly presided over a 4-4 thriller with Norwich.
Shocking defending for both teams and clearly an ability to put the ball in the back of the net for both as well.

Adams and Armstrong both have equalled last year's tally already - two games in. Shows the gulf in class between the Premier League and the Championship.
 

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Reports over the weekend were that the Lavia deal would exceed £55m.
We wanted £50m, so clearly Boehly has money to burn and will overpay for his targets if someone else is interested.

I just look forward to being the richest club in the Championship by some margin, with well in excess of £125m in income from sales, whilst not being able to attract decent players, due to our place in the pyramid.

With that said, Jack Stephens has been named captain of Saints, with JWP heading for the exit door and promptly presided over a 4-4 thriller with Norwich.
Shocking defending for both teams and clearly an ability to put the ball in the back of the net for both as well.

Adams and Armstrong both have equalled last year's tally already - two games in. Shows the gulf in class between the Premier League and the Championship.
Four all?

Wow.

Words (almost) fail me.
 
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And Romeo Lavia is supposedly next on the Chelsea list. Having been gazzumped twice by Chelsea for their top CDM targets, where does Liverpool turn next?
Wince.

I hear you.
After all that money spent, they still have a weirdly unbalanced squad,
Agreed.
but they also have Poch managing them
Yes.

However, while Pochettino is an excellent manager, I am also remided that he never actually won any sort of a trophy with Spurs (much though I would have liked to have seen that happen, and yes, I'm an Arsenal fan) and didn't set the world alight (yes, I know the issues) with PSG.


and no European distractions. It's going to be interesting to see where they end up.
For now, notwithstanding the fact that they have an embarressment of (individual) riches to call upon, I will reserve judgment, for Chelsea remain less a team than a collection of exceedingly expensive and gifted individuals.
 

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And Romeo Lavia is supposedly next on the Chelsea list. Having been gazzumped twice by Chelsea for their top CDM targets, where does Liverpool turn next?

After all that money spent, they still have a weirdly unbalanced squad, but they also have Poch managing them and no European distractions. It's going to be interesting to see where they end up.
No European distractions will help them a lot. It’s really caused us issues in the last couple of years. Playing twice a week most weeks is hard on a smaller squad.
I suppose it could be the reverse at Chelsea. With such a large squad, keeping everyone happy without midweek games could be the problem.

Time will tell.
 
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A proper goodbye from JWP.
 

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Sorry for your lose. I know how it feels to lose you club captain.
Hopefully the funds coming in can be used wisely to get you back up to where you belong.
Well, it ain’t over yet for us…

 
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Well, it ain’t over yet for us…

The joys of relegation. Been there. Done that.
Hopefully the right sort of players are available for the Championship. I think it takes a different sort of player in that league. Good luck.
 
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Bloom bought Caicedo for £4.5m. He's made £110m in profit from him off of one good EPL season. Thanks to Chelsea.

Chelsea have now spent £222m on 2 players in 7months. And are approaching a combined £874m in 12 months!

Granted they've brought in roughly £200m in player sales.

Their spending will jump to £934m if they also get Lavia.

Making City look broke by spending £1bn in 15 months takes some doing

..and they still don't have a decent striker.
 
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Lord Blackadder

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With his move to Saudi Arabia, Neymar's conversion from actual footballer to Media Brand Project is now complete. This is a man who once promised to rival the greatest players of all time, but injuries and distractions have resulted in a career that has, in my opinion, decisively failed to live up to the hype. He has never reached his full (and astonishingly high) potential, and I doubt he ever will.

And Romeo Lavia is supposedly next on the Chelsea list. Having been gazzumped twice by Chelsea for their top CDM targets, where does Liverpool turn next?

We are living in a financial Wild West, and I have some sympathy with FSG and Klopp, in the sense that the injections of massive Middle Eastern sportwashing money make the transfer market really unpredictable.

FSG, for all their faults, are trying to work from an actual budget that hews closer to the spirit of FFP than Man City and Chelsea, and probably Newcastle. Their ownership project is not intended to be a 'loss leader' - for better or worse, they are treating it like an investment, and they appear to be genuinely trying to make the numbers add up. The reality is that FSG can afford to pay inflated prices for players - but other clubs can and are willing to pay even more inflated prices.

How Chelsea can do all this, and still stay within the rules, I simply do not know.

Klopp and his team will have a plan B and C, but things change quickly these days and the club are obviously scrambling. I don't think we want to be using MacAllister as a number 6 all season - especially since even with him there we still have no additional cover in that position.

The way Chelsea are going about things just appears to be childish and it would be satisfying to see it backfire. They really do appear to just be throwing money at the problem. And I hate to sound cynical, but I assume Caicedo just preferred to live in London - pretty much all footballers do by the sound of it....they are among the few people who can afford it!
 

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News coming out of Arsenal camp. Jurriën Timber has damaged his ACL.
He is the 6th player with ACL that played preseason friendly in the USA.
 
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