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The Apple Is Not What It Used To Be
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>>off topic ..XinHell ..does this (kinda) work ?
Ive kinda given up on it to be honest...
My thinkpad gets the most attention now....even though its running Xp at the mo.
UHHH that is EXACTLY what I am stating. Actually it is quite simple math. 3000 units on a container that costs about $5000. Therefore the $/unit for the shipping expense is $1.66.
Now that only gets it to the port in LA. There would be further intermodal charges that will certinaly push that number higher. Maybe to the point of $2.00 to $2.25 at most.
What do you think it costs $50 for each computer to come over here? I bet you also think that the $50 that you get charged for shipping is the actual cost that the shipper pays for freight too.
Are you trying to tell me that containers can fly, and it takes only 5 days for a container to "fly" from Shanghai to the US?
I really want some of what you are smoking, it costs less for Apple to send some freaking 3kg thing by air than it costs to mail a freaking letter through Airmail.
Fedex loses money per shipment, but makes it up in volume!
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..since no one lives forever, i guess no one hopes forever
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..the kitten (>> at srf4real's picture) doesn't know it ..BUT
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Actually, based on forum posts, there are a lot less people posting about problems now than in the months after the MBP first launched.
Even the "horizontal banding" screen issue on the last-generation (hi-res) 15" PowerBook had more of a buzz going for it than the current C2D screen complaints.
Maybe the sales rate of the C2D machines is lower than either of those two. Maybe not. But usually, if anything is going wrong with an Apple product, the first page of posts in that product's Apple Support Forum (on apple.com) is full of angry people. I haven't really seen that in the MBP forum since Apple fixed the initial Core Duo issues.
Sorry for the belated reply. But yes, you are correct. I'd forgotten, but the PowerBook 2400 was indeed designed by IBM Japan for Apple.
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..since no one lives forever, i guess no one hopes forever
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..the kitten (>> at srf4real's picture) doesn't know it ..BUT
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..we're not animals, are we ? (hm.. quite clever, innit ?
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nice... You use an apple for this?
Actually, based on forum posts, there are a lot less people posting about problems now than in the months after the MBP first launched.
Even the "horizontal banding" screen issue on the last-generation (hi-res) 15" PowerBook had more of a buzz going for it than the current C2D screen complaints.
Maybe the sales rate of the C2D machines is lower than either of those two. Maybe not. But usually, if anything is going wrong with an Apple product, the first page of posts in that product's Apple Support Forum (on apple.com) is full of angry people. I haven't really seen that in the MBP forum since Apple fixed the initial Core Duo issues.
You got it right though, the horizontal lines issue did have more buzz going for it than the current issues. C|Net even mentioned it in an article somewhere IRRC! The irony is the grainy screens are definitely a lot more noticeable than the lines.
I remember having to browse to some web page that has a lot of pinstripe patterns used in the background, then scrolling through the page slowly pixel by pixel before I was able to conclude that my display is affected by the lines issue, not that it affected me otherwise, but with the graininess just fire up any web browser or any productivity app (MS Word, Excel, Textmate, etc) and bam, it is right there in your face.
Yes, but then how could it be MORE? The first gen MBPs sucked ass!!! And a lot of 2nd gen MBPs suck ass. Even though, according to you, not as many.
Weird. I still have one of those PowerBooks in my house (my partners), and in addition to the horizontal line issue, the screen has just about as much grain as the 15" MBP I picked up last Thursday does.
All I am saying is that for "a lot of 2nd gen MBPs sucking ass", there isn't very much complaining going on. Since what you mean by "a lot" could be different from what I mean, I tried to give some quantitative measurements so you'd see where I was coming from.
nice... You use an apple for this?
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..yesssir ..AND actually no
..interesting question when you run windows xp..
..is your work done on a mac (??) if you actually do all on the bootcamp side ?
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..i guess that's a question for the apple-church goers. who can give advise ?
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That's very true. The problem really is that Apple currently would like to help, but can't until they change LCD suppliers or model.
Weird. I still have one of those PowerBooks in my house (my partners), and in addition to the horizontal line issue, the screen has just about as much grain as the 15" MBP I picked up last Thursday does.
Is it very hard to comprehend that your unit may not be affected?
Ok...
I agree. I own a black MacBook. It has the Moo, it has the capacitor noise, it has been to Apple for the instant power off replacement and it didn't return in the perfect condition in which I shipped it to them (minor cosmetical flaws) and it recently had a HD headcrash.
Now one could say that I had bad luck. Well my roommate has a white MacBook. Hers had the cover replaced because of the dirt problem and imagine what happened to her last week: Her HD had an headcrash.
Hers was a 60GB Toshiba, mine was a 80GB Seagate. I'm quite disappointed, especially by the support on the Apple Care Hotline. When my HD died they offered to sent me an replacement which I could just install. I'd have to wait for 2-3 weeks though, that's why I bought a 2.5" SATA-HD in the aftermarket to install it into my MacBook.
When my roommate called them the first officer told that there is no way that she could replace it on her own. When she called again they sent a HD though.
I have this machine for less than 6 month and it has been out of order for a long time (the heat sink repair took 3 weeks because they were short of parts). That is not what I would call premium quality. I would possibly buy an Apple again though because I like OS X and I like the Design of the Machines. The quality - no I don't like that.
Now one could say that I had bad luck. Well my roommate has a white MacBook. Hers had the cover replaced because of the dirt problem and imagine what happened to her last week: Her HD had an headcrash.
Hers was a 60GB Toshiba, mine was a 80GB Seagate. I'm quite disappointed, especially by the support on the Apple Care Hotline. When my HD died they offered to sent me an replacement which I could just install. I'd have to wait for 2-3 weeks though, that's why I bought a 2.5" SATA-HD in the aftermarket to install it into my MacBook.
When my roommate called them the first officer told that there is no way that she could replace it on her own. When she called again they sent a HD though.
I have this machine for less than 6 month and it has been out of order for a long time (the heat sink repair took 3 weeks because they were short of parts). That is not what I would call premium quality. I would possibly buy an Apple again though because I like OS X and I like the Design of the Machines. The quality - no I don't like that.
Sorry, had you mixed up with one of the people that insists that every C2D MBP has this issue and those that say it don't are lying to save Apple's reputation. My bad.Is it very hard to comprehend that your unit may not be affected?
I have a single, stuck pixel. I'm afraid to massage the screen because I don't want to break it or create more. I'd rather have a single pixel ON rather than black or dead. It seems to be white or the actual color of the bulb behind the display (same color of the Apple on the back, or so it seems to my color-blind eyes ). I'm on my 2nd Core2 MBP already and this is the 2nd display on my 2nd MBP. Quality has definitely declined since my 2nd gen. PB 12".
). I'm on my 2nd Core2 MBP already and this is the 2nd display on my 2nd MBP. Quality has definitely declined since my 2nd gen. PB 12".Sorry, had you mixed up with one of the people that insists that every C2D MBP has this issue and those that say it don't are lying to save Apple's reputation. My bad.
ALL of the last generation Powerbook G4s had the horizontal line issue. I think that was quite established and accepted at the time. As for 15" MBPs: all the ones In NYC had the grain issue and poor viewing angles. I'm now in Sweden and went to check the macbook pros here at the local mac store. The 15" has exactly the same issues as the ones in the NYC stores. The 17" seemed perfectly evenly illuminated with no grain whatsoever.
Nobody is saying that those who claim to have MBPs without grain are lying. What some of us are saying, however, is that some people - those who are not using their machines professionally for photography or graphics - don't necessarily notice the problem. You need to be sensitive to colors, light and textures and you need to have other displays to compare with for it to stand out. I have seen quite a few MBPs now, purchased in East Asia, Europe and the U.S. and they all had the same issues more or less - a bad batch? Hmm, it's really improbable.It's much more probable that Apple's display providers are spewing out crappy displays across the bord.
Are you trying to tell me that containers can fly, and it takes only 5 days for a container to "fly" from Shanghai to the US?
I really want some of what you are smoking, it costs less for Apple to send some freaking 3kg thing by air than it costs to mail a freaking letter through Airmail.
Fedex loses money per shipment, but makes it up in volume!
I think it is you who must be on crack. Since when does a container, a 40 ft one that i mentioned go by air. Of course I was tallking OCEAN freight. Hence the mentioning of not all computers being shipped by air.
Also, if you are losing $ on a transaction, there is no way to make up for it in volume. If you keep adding negatives, you will simply get a larger negative. Again simple math. If you have LOW net margins, you can make your situation look better to investors by having an larger top end which is done via volume.
And why the hell do you keep bringing containers into the discussion?
You are joking right?
At the rate the latest Core 2 processors are released and depreciate you are using freight that involves your goods sitting 1-2 months on a boat somewhere doing nothing? Have you ever purchased a Mac from the online store? You can see from the fedex tracking number you are issued the path your mac takes from SHANGHAI to you within a week. Now you are the one who keeps insisting that Apple spends $1.66 on freight for each Mac. I merely put two together and deduced that by your logic, containers can fly.
Alas a reasonably sane post from someone who has his head screwed on correctly.
I guess the only way this issue can be fixed would be for Apple to find a new LCD supplier that manufactures 1440 x 900 screens in a 15.4" configuration, or perhaps wait till Leopard is released to get more options for the upcoming models.
I give up someone a dense as you are cannot be reasoned with. Just as with other comments in this thread, once you have chosen a path, there is no other. Even if someone introduces an enlightend path, you choose to stay the course. Better to go down with the ship than admit that there are other ways to ship things from china to the US than via an airplane.
Of course there are, but more often than not when you order a mac it is flown in via air.
Read that last statement again.
There.