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The 4C I saw at the local Cars & Coffee still had the window sticker on it. I wish I took a good look at it for the markup, assuming it was a dealer owned one still.
 

A.Goldberg

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Last week I had to drive out to our one of my work's satellite treatment centers. They gave me one of the company cars to make the 2hr trip. In the past they've given me one of their 2014 Jeep Compasses, which I have to say is the worst car I've ever driven. I joked about it to the woman in charge of scheduling the cars, so she gave me a 2010 Altima (if I was a senior level employee I'd get a Grand Cherokee ). The Altima had a CVT which I have to say is one of the worst inventions ever. It was loud, unpredictable, often found itself in the wrong ratio... just super annoying to drive. Next time I think I will just take my own car and get reimbursed.

The one advantage of that car was I got to see this one:
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@AutoUnion39 (I-95 S in Wellesley/Needham, right after getting on from Route 9)

Porsche 918. Base Price: $845,000.
 
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^Oh damn. Love the 918!

I can't tell if it's a dark metallic blue, but if it is... Porsche of Westwood had it in their showroom back in June/July. There's a few of them running around our area now!

We should do a MRCarThread group buy on one. Time share sort of thing. I get first dibs on all major holidays and long weekends.
 
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A.Goldberg

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^Oh damn. Love the 918!

I can't tell if it's a dark metallic blue, but if it is... Porsche of Westwood had it in their showroom back in June/July. There's a few of them running around our area now!

We should do a MRCarThread group buy on one. Time share sort of thing. I get first dibs on all major holidays and long weekends.

A $850,000 would be quite a time share payment! Especially considering the value of a car does necessarily hold its value or appreciate like a piece of property. If it had five years of financing, that's $170,000/yr. Ten owners is $17,000/yr per owner which gives you 36.5 days of use per share, minus repairs, maintenance, and time to switch owners. Also factor in interest, insurance (I can only imagine...), maintenance, repairs, etc.

I'll buy in, but only if we can get one custom made with a CVT.

Seriously though, how common is it that people do this? I've never heard of anyone doing it with cars but it seems like a reasonable idea. Many people I know who own boats (small and especially large) often do this. Aircraft as well. I feel like boats and planes have better longevity though and perhaps more downtime that would allow for greater convenience amongst multiple owners.
 
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I'll buy in, but only if we can get one custom made with a CVT.

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Options list
-CVT
-Factory Airbag delete
-Factory Infotainment delete
-Aftermarket head unit
-Aftermarket seat covers
-Aftermarket pedals and shift knob
-Used tires from eBay. Not Michelin PSS

;)

I'm buying one of these. It's cheap. I'm just kidding.
I'm actually shocked people still buy the Yaris. Toyota definitely phoned that car in. No effort was put into making a good subcompact.

Honda kills everything in this segment with the Fit. It is an ingenious little car.
 
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determined09

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I'm actually shocked people still buy the Yaris. Toyota definitely phoned that car in. No effort was put into making a good subcompact.

Honda kills everything in this segment with the Fit. It is an ingenious little car.

Thanks for tip. The Toyota Camry and Lexus ES 350 are still on my list of car options.


By the way my coworker drives a Toyota Echo. I forgotten about the Echo until I saw her's.
 

A.Goldberg

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Options list
-CVT
-Factory Airbag delete
-Factory Infotainment delete
-Aftermarket head unit
-Aftermarket seat covers
-Aftermarket pedals and shift knob
-Used tires from eBay. Not Michelin PSS

;)

Haha.

You forgot to mention LED's.

Thanks for tip. The Toyota Camry and Lexus ES 350 are still on my list of car options.


By the way my coworker drives a Toyota Echo. I forgotten about the Echo until I saw her's.

You're not interested in the RX or NX anymore?
 
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Plymouthbreezer

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Last week I had to drive out to our one of my work's satellite treatment centers. They gave me one of the company cars to make the 2hr trip. In the past they've given me one of their 2014 Jeep Compasses, which I have to say is the worst car I've ever driven. I joked about it to the woman in charge of scheduling the cars, so she gave me a 2010 Altima (if I was a senior level employee I'd get a Grand Cherokee ). The Altima had a CVT which I have to say is one of the worst inventions ever. It was loud, unpredictable, often found itself in the wrong ratio... just super annoying to drive. Next time I think I will just take my own car and get reimbursed.

The one advantage of that car was I got to see this one:
Porsche 918. Base Price: $845,000.
When I worked out of Boston, I was on 95/128 everyday. Always a treat car-spotting on that road!
 

determined09

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You're not interested in the RX or NX anymore?
No, I'm not interested in the NX. I still like the RX but it's a bit pricey.

I ran across these two articles about the NX.
Consumer Reports listed the NX as one of the worst cars of 2015.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2015/09/01/consumer-reports-worst-cars-2015/71526260/

In addition, I've always heard that you should wait about fives years after a new car model has been released so that the manufacture can correct all of the problems, first.
 
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No, I'm not interested in the NX. I still like the RX but it's a bit pricey.

I ran across these two articles about the NX.
Consumer Reports listed the NX as one of the worst cars of 2015.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2015/09/01/consumer-reports-worst-cars-2015/71526260/

In addition, I've always heard that you should wait about fives years after a new car model has been released so that the manufacture can correct all of the problems, first.

The NX has recieved very mixed reviews. Some reviews rave about its beautiful, well built interior, while others like CR knock it. I think overall most agree the performance is pretty underwhelming. Typically I trust CR the least when it comes to reviews*. I wouldn't rule it out based on one opinion.

I haven't been in an NX, but I'd be surprised for it to be one of the top 5 worst cars of this year. I don't think it's a great value looking at the competition, but that's probably the most important metric CR is basing their decision off of, since that's what they like to do. I see plenty of NX's already and they haven't been out too long.

5 years is a little long IMO. Most manufactures have moved on to a new vehicle at that point. I think a year or two is reasonable. It depends on how long you expect to keep the car too- within the few years of the warranty, or for the next 10 years.

*(As a PharmD I love CR's medication comparisons and you might appreciate this as well given your training. Consumer Reports reviews medication and while making disclaimers about side effects, solely bases their decision on average monthly cost. Side effects, efficacy/outcomes, tolerabilty, opportunity cost, etc are not considered. For example, diphenhydramine/Benadryl is usually cheapest antihistamine you can buy. For most people though, it will put them to sleep for 10hrs so it's not a great choice. They also like to include OTC and Rx drugs together, which is pointless as many people have insurance and they don't factor in the doctor's appoint cost/copay. Clarinex might cost $200/month but cheaper than then the $25 OTC Allegra since my copay is $10 for 3 months. There is a whole complex field called pharmacoeconomics devoted to assessing the best treatments, CR's analysis basically looking at the price per unit which is not meaningful)
 

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I have a 2014 Ford Fusion SE with the basic Ford Sync system. I love the car, but loathe the Sync software. I try to do a Vehicle Health Report once a month and yesterday I had to try half a dozen times. Every time I'd say Vehicle Health Report it would want to call someone in my phone book or couldn't understand me. I've never had that happen in the year and half I've had this car. It from time to time won't understand me when I give it commands to control the audio, but it always worked on the VHR until yesterday.

Anyway, after I finally got it to work and checked the report online this morning I saw there was finally an update for the Sync system. I downloaded it and installed it in the car this morning. One of the things I hated about it was that when playing Bluetooth audio, it wouldn't display any song or artist information, which I always thought was dumb that it couldn't do that. Plus, when you'd cycle the ignition, the system would always forget that I was last using BTA and would revert to Line in or USB. These things appear to be addressed finally in this update.

I don't like that it took Ford so long to do something like this and update the system. The last time there was any system update was December 19, 2013!

My lease is up in February and I'm hoping to get a vehicle with the newer Sync 3 system and I hope that it doesn't suck either.

FJ5T-14D544-AB
Bluetooth© Connectivity Improvements:
  • Enhanced Bluetooth phone connection stability
  • Enabled track information to be displayed for Bluetooth-streamed media including metadata such as song title, artist name and album title
  • More robust Message Access Profile (MAP) functionality to handle SMS reception and Text2Speach output
Media Connectivity Improvements:
  • Improved media connectivity for USB-equipped Apple devices, as well as streamlined device initialization and authentication process
  • Previous USB or Bluetooth media source playback now resumed after ignition cycle
AppLink Functionality Improvements
  • Better AppLink customer experience with more robust features and reliable functionality
 

D.T.

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I love the car, but loathe the Sync software.

My lease is up in February and I'm hoping to get a vehicle with the newer Sync 3 system and I hope that it doesn't suck either.

I'm hearing pretty terrific things about it, especially in comparison to the previous Sync 2 system. I was looking at some leftover 2015 Mustang GT verts, but also tracking the details of the 2016 to see if there was anything notable, and one of the major changes is Sync 3 in the '16 Stangs. So lots of discussions about it, and the details are pretty compelling. Some folks are even abandoning their '15 purchase plans - which include some decent discounts - to move to the '16 and improved AV system.

Not relevant to the Sync discussion, but the '16 verts are now offering the GT Performance Package ... booya!
 
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Is that shorthand for advertisements?

I've been looking at reviews now and again on Sync 3 and everything I see is positive so far.

One thing that I miss from stereo's of old is a Source button. I just want a plain old button on the dash that will change the source audio each time I press it. Radio, Satellite, USB, Line In, BTA. I don't always want to have to press the Sync button and speak what I want. To me, its cumbersome and takes longer to get to what I want.
 

D.T.

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Is that shorthand for advertisements?

I've been looking at reviews now and again on Sync 3 and everything I see is positive so far.

One thing that I miss from stereo's of old is a Source button. I just want a plain old button on the dash that will change the source audio each time I press it. Radio, Satellite, USB, Line In, BTA. I don't always want to have to press the Sync button and speak what I want. To me, its cumbersome and takes longer to get to what I want.


Ahh, sorry, verts = convertibles

:)

Oh yeah, even our 4Runner with the nav headunit has dedicated buttons for FM, AUX, DISC and a toggle on the steering wheel to flip through them. Geez, that sounds like a tedious implementation.
 
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Ahh, sorry, verts = convertibles

:)

Oh yeah, even our 4Runner with the nav headunit has dedicated buttons for FM, AUX, DISC and a toggle on the steering wheel to flip through them. Geez, that sounds like a tedious implementation.
Yeah, it can be tedious depending on user preferences. For me, I find it too much trouble to press the Sync button, wait a few seconds for the car to listen, then speak "USB" or "Bluetooth Audio" and hope it recognizes the command, then wait for it to confirm my choice and switch to the source I want and begin playing.

If I could just press a button, or a button a couple of times to scroll through, that would be quicker and less prone to error to get to what I want.

I need to find the outlet for feedback to Ford so I can tell them what I think! ;) So far, they don't reply to me on Twitter. :mad:
 

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No, I'm not interested in the NX. I still like the RX but it's a bit pricey.

I ran across these two articles about the NX.
Consumer Reports listed the NX as one of the worst cars of 2015.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2015/09/01/consumer-reports-worst-cars-2015/71526260/

In addition, I've always heard that you should wait about fives years after a new car model has been released so that the manufacture can correct all of the problems, first.
I'm not sure I agree with CR about this. The NX is fantastic.

And this is Lexus we're talking about. They have been making probably the most reliable cars out there for over a decade.
 

determined09

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The NX has recieved very mixed reviews. Some reviews rave about its beautiful, well built interior, while others like CR knock it. I think overall most agree the performance is pretty underwhelming. Typically I trust CR the least when it comes to reviews*. I wouldn't rule it out based on one opinion.

I haven't been in an NX, but I'd be surprised for it to be one of the top 5 worst cars of this year. I don't think it's a great value looking at the competition, but that's probably the most important metric CR is basing their decision off of, since that's what they like to do. I see plenty of NX's already and they haven't been out too long.

5 years is a little long IMO. Most manufactures have moved on to a new vehicle at that point. I think a year or two is reasonable. It depends on how long you expect to keep the car too- within the few years of the warranty, or for the next 10 years.

*(As a PharmD I love CR's medication comparisons and you might appreciate this as well given your training. Consumer Reports reviews medication and while making disclaimers about side effects, solely bases their decision on average monthly cost. Side effects, efficacy/outcomes, tolerabilty, opportunity cost, etc are not considered. For example, diphenhydramine/Benadryl is usually cheapest antihistamine you can buy. For most people though, it will put them to sleep for 10hrs so it's not a great choice. They also like to include OTC and Rx drugs together, which is pointless as many people have insurance and they don't factor in the doctor's appoint cost/copay. Clarinex might cost $200/month but cheaper than then the $25 OTC Allegra since my copay is $10 for 3 months. There is a whole complex field called pharmacoeconomics devoted to assessing the best treatments, CR's analysis basically looking at the price per unit which is not meaningful)
Thanks for insight

I'm not sure I agree with CR about this. The NX is fantastic.

And this is Lexus we're talking about. They have been making probably the most reliable cars out there for over a decade.
Thanks for the tip
 
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quagmire

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Latest comparo between the sports sedans.....


Not that I really disagree with the results( what gives the C63 the win is highly subjective), but what I can't stand is these reviewers complaining about CUE, but showcasing their idiocy by keep on pressing the metal trim. The metal trim is just that, trim. If you have an issue with CUE, show the issue. Not you being an idiot and can't figure out after how many times you have with had a Caddy that the trim doesn't do anything..... CUE isn't perfect, but showing that, doesn't make me think CUE is crap. It makes you look stupid.
 

AustinIllini

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I'm not sure I agree with CR about this. The NX is fantastic.

And this is Lexus we're talking about. They have been making probably the most reliable cars out there for over a decade.
This bold part is really key for a consumer reports review. CR is notorious for favoring reliability. They tend to favor the Japanese vehicles.
 
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