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Yes. It looks and sounds fantastic. Hopefully a FI version comes along. I'm not much of a forum or discussion board person, but I've read some comparisons of this being the average bloke's LFA. The LFA as a halo car is magnificent, no doubt, but it was a failure in terms of total sales. But for what it achieved and set the bar for? Unrivaled, IMO.
On the more realistic car front, I don't think the new NSX will be so hot. I would love to see a new Integra from Acura and a new Prelude from Honda, preferably priced a little higher and have some premium amenities. So it's out of the price range of really young people but perfect for the late 20s to mid 50s individual who wants a little fun in their life, but doesn't want to spend 50K+ and doesn't want a Miata.
Toyota's done a swell job on their lineup. I took a quick spin around a few streets with a new Camry on Sunday, and I thought it was rather lovely for a boring sedan. Hoping to schedule a new 5er test drive soon. Also added myself to a list of potential buyers of the upcoming LS at my local dealer. I have no real intention but it was the only way to get a test drive. Salesperson actually recommended I do it that way. I've always loved the LS because it's glorious and lush in every possible way. I doubt I'd be disappointed by its twin turbo V6.
Anyway, local MBZ dealer I buy from has informed me they'll be getting in the parts for my GL's airbag switch. Good signs coming my way. I'll be able to get this fixed by Fall.
Which is fantastic because I can have my brakes swapped out and my rotors looked at around that time. Though I fully suspect their recall list to grow and have our other car checked out unless it's already due to be looked it. Merc's VIN checks isn't working correctly at the moment. If I can sell off my low mileage GL in early 2018 or mid 2018, I'll hopefully skip over the initial bugs in the E wagon and the new E platform in general. If BMW introduced a M5 wagon to the states, I wouldn't mind checking it out, or rather a touring version of their 550i power-plant, which is a semi-M. Hopefully they have an option to remove the M badging since it's not a real M.
On the more realistic car front, I don't think the new NSX will be so hot. I would love to see a new Integra from Acura and a new Prelude from Honda, preferably priced a little higher and have some premium amenities. So it's out of the price range of really young people but perfect for the late 20s to mid 50s individual who wants a little fun in their life, but doesn't want to spend 50K+ and doesn't want a Miata.
Toyota's done a swell job on their lineup. I took a quick spin around a few streets with a new Camry on Sunday, and I thought it was rather lovely for a boring sedan. Hoping to schedule a new 5er test drive soon. Also added myself to a list of potential buyers of the upcoming LS at my local dealer. I have no real intention but it was the only way to get a test drive. Salesperson actually recommended I do it that way. I've always loved the LS because it's glorious and lush in every possible way. I doubt I'd be disappointed by its twin turbo V6.
Anyway, local MBZ dealer I buy from has informed me they'll be getting in the parts for my GL's airbag switch. Good signs coming my way. I'll be able to get this fixed by Fall.
Which is fantastic because I can have my brakes swapped out and my rotors looked at around that time. Though I fully suspect their recall list to grow and have our other car checked out unless it's already due to be looked it. Merc's VIN checks isn't working correctly at the moment. If I can sell off my low mileage GL in early 2018 or mid 2018, I'll hopefully skip over the initial bugs in the E wagon and the new E platform in general. If BMW introduced a M5 wagon to the states, I wouldn't mind checking it out, or rather a touring version of their 550i power-plant, which is a semi-M. Hopefully they have an option to remove the M badging since it's not a real M.
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Looks like there won't be a Z/28 for the 6th gen Camaro as GM has unveiled the ZL1 1LE which gives it Z/28 goodies like the DSSV suspension, 305's up front, 325's out back, and manual transmission only. At their milford race track/proving grounds, it is 3 seconds faster than the normal ZL1.
http://www.autoblog.com/2017/02/24/behold-the-2018-camaro-zl1-1le-the-most-hardcore-of-camaros/
http://www.autoblog.com/2017/02/24/behold-the-2018-camaro-zl1-1le-the-most-hardcore-of-camaros/
It'll be around $75,000. Be around Corvette pricing and power, so as not to take away sales. It's a little too outlandish for my tastes. Honestly, I can see this being a popular car with people who want the track experience in a day to day setting or current performance car owners, be it import or domestic, as a second or whatever car to their stable. If I had to spend the money, I'd rather have the Corvette Z06.
If we're talking realistically, I'd sooner opt for the upcoming M5 or the E63 Sedan, if I wasn't planning on the wagon variant. Then again I can't imagine a person looking at an M or AMG looking at the Camaro. Possibly the Corvette, but I'm not sure. I haven't been on a Chevy lot in years.
What's the current state of the Suburban and Tahoe?
If we're talking realistically, I'd sooner opt for the upcoming M5 or the E63 Sedan, if I wasn't planning on the wagon variant. Then again I can't imagine a person looking at an M or AMG looking at the Camaro. Possibly the Corvette, but I'm not sure. I haven't been on a Chevy lot in years.
What's the current state of the Suburban and Tahoe?
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I don't know if it will be priced the same as the 5th gen Z/28 was. The 5th gen Z/28 didn't sell well after the initial got to have it buyers bought it up. Though the ZL1 1LE will be more appealing since it isn't as barebones as the 5th gen Z/28. I see this ZL1 1LE as the Z07 package to the Z06. I could see the ZL1's 1LE package costing $10K on top of the ZL1 so ~$67K-$70K would be my bet.
I don't know if I would do the same... I would of course have to drive them, but the latest episode of Motortrend's ignition has Randy Pobst preferring the ZL1 over the Z06 due to the Alpha platform being more capable of putting the LT4's 650 HP down better than the Z06. Also, while the Corvette team did make some changes for 2017 to fix the heat soaking issues( we'll see if that does indeed fix it), while Motortrend had the ZL1, they could not get it to heat soak. Will have to wait a month or so before they'll post it to youtube if you don't subscribe to MT on demand or already used the 30 day trial. Now I would stick with the regular ZL1 given it will be easier to live with the magnetic ride suspension vs the DSSV suspension which will give it a harsher ride.
In terms of sales? With low gas prices, they are selling well and able to demand $60K-$70K price tags.
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Reliability never had been an issue with GM's full size SUV and trucks. Our Suburban's have been solid. Build quality is much improved compared to our old 2002 Suburban.
They're trash. Especially the current gen.
Some of the most unreliable junk on the road right now
http://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability/10-least-reliable-cars/
edit: I can't believe people actually spend $60-70k on them. Idiots...
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LC-F is coming.
Either way, I think the LC will be a great car. Hopefully, it has an AWD or it will be DOA around here.
It being a luxury cruiser they'd have to offer it. I heard the F version is getting a tuned up version of Lexus' upcoming TT V6.
Sorry, but complaining about MMI is a really terrible way to measure reliability. I wouldn't buy one, but the idea that the tahoe is bad because CS doesn't like MMI and steering is just stupid.
If it's not engine or transmission, it's not reliability or dependability. You don't need MMI to get you from point A to point B.
Clearly someone didn't read the link... The current crop of GMT9XX trucks aren't just experiencing infotainment issues
Unlike JDPower, Consumer Reports *does not* rank infotainment issues with the same importance as mechanical failures.
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Yuck. Looks like something straight from Fast and Furious.
The regular Camaro is much cleaner.
The regular Camaro has some of the worst blind spots in modern vehicles. That racetrack version surely doesn't help.
Kind of a shame, really. I really liked Suburbans and Tahoes back in the day because they were rugged, had comfortable seats and had icy cold AC, even if they were beat to hell. I suppose the Highlander, Sequoia, Pilot and the LC have become the reliable powerhouses. Japanese cars still have mid-level AC.
Kind of a shame, really. I really liked Suburbans and Tahoes back in the day because they were rugged, had comfortable seats and had icy cold AC, even if they were beat to hell. I suppose the Highlander, Sequoia, Pilot and the LC have become the reliable powerhouses. Japanese cars still have mid-level AC.
Back when AC had CFCs it was better. 90's suburbans did have beastly AC systems.
Yep-environment aside R-12 is absolutely amazing for a car air conditioner.
Modern R-134a systems are good, but I've seen R-12 systems throw fog out the vents with the air temperatures they were putting out.
Heck, I rode in a Continental Convertible a while back with the top down on an 80º day. The driver had the A/C cranked all the way up(he'd serviced the system and charged it with R-12) and I nearly froze off my rear end.
Unfortunately, a lot of late 80s/early 90s R-12 systems have been "fixed" by screwing an adapter onto the Schrader valve and then dumping in R134a until the system gets up to working pressure. Provided that you've attended to the leaks(or done things halfway and charged with stop leak) they will usually work for a while, but they're warmer than a factory R134a system and the compressor usually dies in a year or two.
For a while now, I've been buying up cans of R-12 when I see them at garage sales and the like. I can often get half pound or 1lb cans for a dollar or two, and I have probably 10lbs of the stuff stashed back. If I ever have a land yacht worthy of a proper A/C repair(like a Mk V or something along those lines), it will get fixed properly-i.e. a full rebuild-and then charged with R-12.
I've also heard of folks using propane as an R-12 substitute. It's supposed to work in R-12 systems without a problem provided that you use a proper R-12 oil. If you look at a phase diagram, it's actually fairly similar to R-12 so will work without too much issue. The flammability isn't the issue it would seem, since in a crash it would likely dissipate to a non-flammable concentration pretty quickly(there's not much there) and would need to be ignited by another source. If that happens, you probably have bigger issues.
CR just released their top brands of 2017. These rankings are a combination of their road tests, owner reliability, and owner satisfaction
http://www.consumerreports.org/cars-which-car-brands-make-the-best-vehicles-2017/
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/28/foreign-brands-dominate-consumer-reports-top-autos-list.html
Lol FCA
http://www.consumerreports.org/cars-which-car-brands-make-the-best-vehicles-2017/
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/28/foreign-brands-dominate-consumer-reports-top-autos-list.html
Lol FCA
Audi's going to face backlash for years because of their decade of incompetence. They need to refresh their lineups faster, as well. I saw a brand new A8 4.0 yesterday at WF as I was walking towards my car. I went over and looked inside. Feels a bit spartan compared to newer Audis. Think the current design is from 2009 or thereabouts? Can't imagine spending about 100K base on that car and getting a, to me, mediocre interior in relation to price in 2017. I've seen a lot of new A4s with the top tier package. It's a very nice and masculine design. The B9 has a mean face that's very nice, similar to the face of the 4er and its low ride height.
I've yet to see any A6 or S6 sportbacks, unless they're not released yet. I've said before that I'm not a fan (though I do like the 7 from Audi). It would be hard for me to fork over the money to buy one since I'm not a huge fan. Even if Audi's are incredibly reliable even six to eig
Back to the Lexus, because that's more interesting to me, I wonder what the LC-F price will be like. Farah quoted 104K on the test vehicle Lexus America set him up with, and that was the regular LC500. I cannot imagine what the price of the LC-F would be. If we go by Lexus's historical pricing, it would be a 35-45K increase over the base LC500. Assuming it wants to compete with the Germans, it can't be too expensive. Especially since quite a lot of tech in a Lexus is last gen which improved reliability, but not something people like AU appreciates. Personally I like COMAND over MMI, though I like newer versions of iDrive. Enform or whatever Lexus' system is called could do with a nice refresh and a very fast processor or a dual processor with multi-core to balance the load.
I've yet to see any A6 or S6 sportbacks, unless they're not released yet. I've said before that I'm not a fan (though I do like the 7 from Audi). It would be hard for me to fork over the money to buy one since I'm not a huge fan. Even if Audi's are incredibly reliable even six to eig
Back to the Lexus, because that's more interesting to me, I wonder what the LC-F price will be like. Farah quoted 104K on the test vehicle Lexus America set him up with, and that was the regular LC500. I cannot imagine what the price of the LC-F would be. If we go by Lexus's historical pricing, it would be a 35-45K increase over the base LC500. Assuming it wants to compete with the Germans, it can't be too expensive. Especially since quite a lot of tech in a Lexus is last gen which improved reliability, but not something people like AU appreciates. Personally I like COMAND over MMI, though I like newer versions of iDrive. Enform or whatever Lexus' system is called could do with a nice refresh and a very fast processor or a dual processor with multi-core to balance the load.
CR just released their top brands of 2017. These rankings are a combination of their road tests, owner reliability, and owner satisfaction
http://www.consumerreports.org/cars-which-car-brands-make-the-best-vehicles-2017/
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/28/foreign-brands-dominate-consumer-reports-top-autos-list.html
Lol FCA
yeah, and everyone knows cr is crap, audi at the top is laughable too!
Audi has been on the positive side of consumer reports reliability rankings for the better part of five years. What metric do you use for reliability? Your own beer farts don't count.
I don't typically like CR's conclusions as I've mentioned before. They usually seem to be on target with reliability ratings though. I say I don't like their conclusions as they often focus on value for dollar, which doesn't necessarily reflect what I'd consider to be the best product.
Have to be careful with CR
- The overvalue MMI system
- having less models for a brand causes higher variability year to year
But the top 10 in CR, regardless of issues, are pretty solid, because you know the cars are free of both serious and obnoxious problems.
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I tend to use both JD Power and CR. SweetHome and WireCutter are good for home and tech, respectively. While I sometimes snigger at AU's constant MMI proclamations, I'm very much the same way. Once I trust and like a publication, I tend to stick with it unless they screw up badly and try to sweet it under the carpet. They can't really rollback their words like an exotics dealership... LOL
I'm probably a week late with that joke.
I'm probably a week late with that joke.