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Look GM fixed the 2019 Camaro already....

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Oh wait..... It's just a SEMA concept debuting most likely the spring color for the Camaro in 2019.

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Look GM fixed the 2019 Camaro already....

cBk6cjk.jpg


Oh wait..... It's just a SEMA concept debuting most likely the spring color for the Camaro in 2019.

:(

I really don’t mind the styling of the newer camaros, but the poor visibility would be a deal breaker for me.
 
Except they are considered American to everyone except you.

I’m done with this ridiculous conversation.

I had another reply, then realized any additional energy expended on this topic is silly and pointless.


Look GM fixed the 2019 Camaro already....

Oh wait..... It's just a SEMA concept debuting most likely the spring color for the Camaro in 2019.

:(

At least for lighter colors, the difference - read: improvement - in a body colored vs. black front bumper/cross-beam is astounding. It also makes the "fangs" look more integrated (and way better) instead of just hanging in a black void.

I bet quite a few folks get that painted, heck, a really good paint job for that small area, with a good prep, etc., wouldn't be much more than $400-ish.
 
At least for lighter colors, the difference - read: improvement - in a body colored vs. black front bumper/cross-beam is astounding. It also makes the "fangs" look more integrated (and way better) instead of just hanging in a black void.

I bet quite a few folks get that painted, heck, a really good paint job for that small area, with a good prep, etc., wouldn't be much more than $400-ish.

And the bowtie is in the upper grille and not in that cross beam.
 
And the bowtie is in the upper grille and not in that cross beam.

Wow, I didn't even notice that, but it was clearly making some kind of subliminal impact. Yeah, that's also a notable improvement, it's like the "uncanny valley" for car design, emblem not in the upper grill = unsettling :D
 
I really don’t mind the styling of the newer camaros, but the poor visibility would be a deal breaker for me.

Yup. They (Local GM) were auctioning off a 2018 SS at a ‘race rally’ back in the end of August I attended. I sat in it, really nice car altogether with the package, interior is a bit different to say the least (Bulbous design ques), but the blind spots were atrocious. I gather it’s a sports car and that can be problematic, however; it was the ‘low cut’ driver and passenger side view mirrors that I didn’t care for.

Side Note: I don’t live too far from a CrossFit gym by my neighborhood and there is a white 17/18 SS (I believe) That drives by the same time every morning when I arrive home from work, that has an aftermarket exhaust [It sounds like Borla], and its one of the nicer set-ups I have heard with the 6.2. I still have not driven a Camaro yet, would like to at some point.
 
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Interestingly, the 2ZR-FAE engine standard on the Scion iM/Toyota Corolla iM was only found on the special Eco model of the current Corolla sedan for the North American market. I expect the new 2020 Corolla sedan to offer the 2ZR-FAE engine for the lower end models and the M20A-FKS for the more "sporting" models.
 
Looking for opinions. Since I’m keeping my S6 for a bit, I’m going to fix all the curb rash and powder coat the wheels. I’m thinking gun metal or maybe something a shade lighter. Black is out of the question.

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Looking for opinions. Since I’m keeping my S6 for a bit, I’m going to fix all the curb rash and powder coat the wheels. I’m thinking gun metal or maybe something a shade lighter. Black is out of the question.

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I agree that a ‘Gloss’ black wouldn’t be my preference either, It will just highlight more of the brake dust coating the wheel. I think charcoal or a gunmetal gray would provide the car paint with a nice contrast.
 
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Probably a good idea since their renewed design on the Camaro is awful. Whoever designed that mistake and whoever greenlit it to production should be fired. Talk about a massive ****ing money waste.
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I had another reply, then realized any additional energy expended on this topic is silly and pointless.
Brick wall comes to mind. Bless their heart, though.
 
Porsche Taycan rumored pricing alleged to start between the Cayenne and Panamera, Which might place it around $92,000.

http://www.autonews.com/article/201...che-taycan-panamera-price?X-IgnoreUserAgent=1

However, The more interesting tangent to this article, is the Porsche Chief Financial Officer stated that they want to offer a higher performance version that could cost approximately as much is $230,000 for the ‘Turbo S’ model.

Crazy to think the _base_ Taycan is geared Towards 600 HP, executing 0-60 in about 3.5s. And then add the possibility that they might add a ‘higher performance’ version of the Taycan is really showing the performance aspect of the electric era, but with an exorbitant price tag attached, similar to what the Tesla Roadster will likely boast in that price range at/above the PD100. [That is, if the Roadster makes a debut.]
 
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Well, I had an interesting night last night.

I was riding in the passenger seat of my buddy’s ~2016 Audi A4, driving down the middle lane of the highway. All of a sudden there was a tremendous bang. The next thing I notice is a burning smell and I see a very mild haze. The last thing I noticed was all the side airbags in the car had deployed and the OnStar-like program woman was asking if we were okay- and we were still moving, albeit slowing down.

It was a few moments of profound confusion. Some expletives were mentioned. We came to a stop and my friend the driver said the car was unable to move any further despite the engine running. The airbags were still smoking. We got out of the car to find the front passenger wheel ripped off and essentially facing backwards.

Neither of us recall seeing anything that could have been hit. We were in the center lane of a well illuminated highway. There was absolutely no body damage to the car other than where the wheel struck the quarter panel.

My only assumption is that some component that holds the wheel in place was defective or damaged and let go. Luckily none of us (my friend, his GF, my GF, or I) was injured. Losing a wheel at ~70mph could have had much worse consequences.

The police came and the car was towed. The police were also baffled by the incident, but could clearly see a trail of rubber embedded in the pavement going down the highway originating in the center lane.

I’m sure this will be a horrific mess of if this is a warranty claim or an insurance claim. I’m guessing this car is totaled because of all the side airbags deploying and steering/suspension.
 
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@A.Goldberg Holy smokes, I just saw your other message too! Wow, that's wild, glad everyone is OK, you're right, losing a wheel at that speed is *nuts* (one reason I won't do bolt-on spacers again, slip-on are OK).

Yeah, when it dropped down onto the chassis/suspension, that definitely set off the airbags, heck, I've seen a few videos of people having airbags go off on track, with what seemed like a reasonably mild off track moment. I'd guess a full weight, max passenger car suddenly slamming down onto the road was plenty to trigger the airbags.
 
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Well, I had an interesting night last night.

I was riding in the passenger seat of my buddy’s ~2016 Audi A4, driving down the middle lane of the highway. All of a sudden there was a tremendous bang. The next thing I notice is a burning smell and I see a very mild haze. The last thing I noticed was all the side airbags in the car had deployed and the OnStar-like program woman was asking if we were okay- and we were still moving, albeit slowing down.

It was a few moments of profound confusion. Some expletives were mentioned. We came to a stop and my friend the driver said the car was unable to move any further despite the engine running. The airbags were still smoking. We got out of the car to find the front passenger wheel ripped off and essentially facing backwards.

Neither of us recall seeing anything that could have been hit. We were in the center lane of a well illuminated highway. There was absolutely no body damage to the car other than where the wheel struck the quarter panel.

My only assumption is that some component that holds the wheel in place was defective or damaged and let go. Luckily none of us (my friend, his GF, my GF, or I) was injured. Losing a wheel at ~70mph could have had much worse consequences.

The police came and the car was towed. The police were also baffled by the incident, but could clearly see a trail of rubber embedded in the pavement going down the highway originating in the center lane.

I’m sure this will be a horrific mess of if this is a warranty claim or an insurance claim. I’m guessing this car is totaled because of all the side airbags deploying and steering/suspension.
Scary stuff. Glad your okay. Suspect your right about the car being totalled.
 
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As Goldberg mentioned, the car will be likely be totaled. If the airbags deploy in an accident, the D.O.T will deem that the vehicle will not meet the safety requirements for operational roadway use and Won’t clear a ‘Post-safety evaluation’. I’m not sure of Massachusetts State requirements, but in most states, an auto accident has to be 1.)Over thousand dollars in damage and 2.) On a public road way for it to be a reportable accident, (or) if there any injuries whatsoever, its automatically reportable regardless of the vehicle damage value.

I’m curious on the follow-up to see what the adjuster/body shop determines what was the immediate cause of failure.
 
As Goldberg mentioned, the car will be likely be totaled. If the airbags deploy in an accident, the D.O.T will deem that the vehicle will not meet the safety requirements for operational roadway use and Won’t clear a ‘Post-safety evaluation’. I’m not sure of Massachusetts State requirements, but in most states, an auto accident has to be 1.)Over thousand dollars in damage and 2.) On a public road way for it to be a reportable accident, (or) if there any injuries whatsoever, its automatically reportable regardless of the vehicle damage value.

I’m curious on the follow-up to see what the adjuster/body shop determines what was the immediate cause of failure.

As a police officer you must see a lot of accidents and broken down cars. Have you seen anything like this?

I guess the confusion is we didn’t actually hit anything as far as we know. I presume the impact of the wheel breaking off triggered the side airbags.

I didn’t take a picture but I believe my friend did. Basically it looks like the ball joint broke off as well as the tie rods. The wheel was essentislly at a >90 degree angle facing backwards.

Thankfully no one was injured.
 
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As a police officer you must see a lot of accidents and broken down cars. Have you seen anything like this?

I guess the confusion is we didn’t actually hit anything as far as we know. I presume the impact of the wheel breaking off triggered the side airbags.

I didn’t take a picture but I believe my friend did. Basically it looks like the ball joint broke off as well as the tie rods. The wheel was essentislly at a >90 degree angle facing backwards.

Thankfully no one was injured.
Yeah, you probably hit the ground hard enough. Yikes.
 
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As a police officer you must see a lot of accidents and broken down cars. Have you seen anything like this?

I guess the confusion is we didn’t actually hit anything as far as we know. I presume the impact of the wheel breaking off triggered the side airbags.

I didn’t take a picture but I believe my friend did. Basically it looks like the ball joint broke off as well as the tie rods. The wheel was essentislly at a >90 degree angle facing backwards..

There is not a shift that goes by in my county that does not have an accident of some sort, either being minor or major. Most accidents this time of year especially, is car versus deer, the colder temperatures are, the more they are on the move, usually standing aimlessly in the highways. The Amount of damage A deer can cause is substantial. There is one particular shift we had a fairly heavy snowfall last year, I had nine accidents in less than two hours.

More to your question, one thing that provoked my thought when I read your post, was any type of recent mechanical work completed on the vehicle prior to the accident? I usually found in my cases, that sometimes when you have steering components that fail, likely had some type of mechanical work recently or the vehicle was involved a prior accident where it was never repaired properly. [Especially if there’s some type of failure with a tie rod, Lower control arm, strut assembly, ect] Or it Simply could be just a part failure that was out of anyone’s control.

I’m assuming the vehicle that you were involved in the accident with, will have some type of evaluation, where they will determine component(s) that failed and how it happened.

Thankfully no one was injured.

Definitely. Especially it appears your particular accident could have turned even worse. Vehicles can be fixed/replaced, lives cannot. There isn’t anything I have not handled, but after an accident, it will stick with you that you survived without any injury, and the car is the last thing on the drivers mind.
 
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There is not a shift that goes by in my county that does not have an accident of some sort, either being minor or major. Most accidents this time of year especially, is car versus deer, the colder temperatures are, the more they are on the move, usually standing aimlessly in the highways. The Amount of damage A deer can cause is substantial. There is one particular shift we had a fairly heavy snowfall last year, I had nine accidents in less than two hours.

More to your question, one thing that provoked my thought when I read your post, was any type of recent mechanical work completed on the vehicle prior to the accident? I usually found in my cases, that sometimes when you have steering components that fail, likely had some type of mechanical work recently or the vehicle was involved a prior accident where it was never repaired properly. [Especially if there’s some type of failure with a tie rod, Lower control arm, strut assembly, ect] Or it Simply could be just a part failure that was out of anyone’s control.

I’m assuming the vehicle that you were involved in the accident with, will have some type of evaluation, where they will determine component(s) that failed and how it happened.



Definitely. Especially it appears your particular accident could have turned even worse. Vehicles can be fixed/replaced, lives cannot. There isn’t anything I have not handled, but after an accident, it will stick with you that you survived without any injury, and the car is the last thing on the drivers mind.

Yes, growing up in Connecticut I’ve seen a zillion deer strikes- especially in the early 2000’s when there was a lot of home construction and deer were being displaced. The capital Hartford basically means where the deer ford (the river) (Hart=deer). They can cause some serious damage. I was driving through Hartford serveral years ago during an ice storm and counted 13 spun out cars- including a couple police cars, in roughly a few miles stretch of highway.

Thank you for your work as a police officer. You guys definitely have to deal with a lot.

As far as I know the car had not had any recent work done. It’s hard to believe a component would fail like that after >30k and two years, but I suppose anything is possible.

The vehicle was towed and as far as I know will be investigated. The police did a little investigation and wrote up a police report. They could not find any evidence of anything being struck.
 
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Glad to hear you're all alright. I've never heard of a wheel doing that. I'm not an expert in suspensions, obviously, but you guys either hit something or some linkage got messed up that let the wheel veer? That account sounds wild. I would have been equally confused as well.

I think the worst "What just happened" I ever experienced was accidentally running over a big turtle many years ago and not knowing what I just did, and then sweating bullets as I walked along the rode at dawn to look for whatever it was I hit. Poor guy.
 
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As far as I know the car had not had any recent work done. It’s hard to believe a component would fail like that after >30k and two years, but I suppose anything is possible.

I agree. That’s why I was asking if there was any type of mechanical work pre-accident that was on the vehicle, being it’s so new and just over 30,000 miles. (But I realize there are lots of Contributing circumstances) If you ever hear anything what caused the accident/failure, please do share on a follow up. It would be interesting to know.
 
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