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Etios top trim sold with navigation, DVD, digital TV, Bluetooth, and no rear speakers.

The system does support rear speakers and the car is ready for them to be installed, but Toyota doesn't.

It might depend on the market and I think there's a limited edition with everything in India (but likely without digital TV because the country uses DVB-T).

I’m going to guess that headunit is from other older Toyota models. At this point I think the only reason the main reason they DVD players is because there’s probably a negligible cost difference with CD players. It’s probably cheaper to use older headunits than develop new ones.

I’d say an Toyota Etios is a bit of an obscure example as it’s pretty much sold in less developed countries with very high car taxes, where cutting costs is especially important.
 

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I’m going to guess that headunit is from other older Toyota models. At this point I think the only reason the main reason they DVD players is because there’s probably a negligible cost difference with CD players. It’s probably cheaper to use older headunits than develop new ones.

I’d say an Toyota Etios is a bit of an obscure example as it’s pretty much sold in less developed countries with very high car taxes, where cutting costs is especially important.
Yes, but it was an example of why you have to check that you can actually play a concert DVD in surround or listen to the TV while driving.

With Blu Ray it would be better because you can have uncompressed surround.

You can't find SACDs on the road so one could argue for a DSD player, but normally there's no place to fit it and ripping SACDs is a complicated affair, plus not everything is available in this format.

Ripping DVDs and Blu Rays is still a hassle and you can just buy them at a supermarket. I don't buy downloads, there's little multichannel to stream, and you cannot always rely on that.
 
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Pony up for a premium sound system when you buy a car or install an aftermarket system. No need to be a skin flint.
 

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Pony up for a premium sound system when you buy a car or install an aftermarket system. No need to be a skin flint.
- There are no universal players for sale
- Many brands have left disc players behind
- Many cars have left DIN behind
 

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New 2020 Redesigned Hyundai Sonata platform.

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https://www.motor1.com/news/308204/2020-hyundai-sonata-revealed/amp/

At first glance, I wasn’t sure what I thought of it, but then I think I like the bold changes they made. I can see the trend following the whole ‘fastback’ design, similar to what Honda ececuted with the Accord and of course Audi. Although the rear tail light accents resemble more Civic-ish design cues.

I think the most interesting thing, is the new Sonata actually incorporates a DRL light that slopes up around the headlight and into the hood lines, which the fourth picture indicates.

(As a Hyundai 2.0 T owner, I really enjoy the Sonata, very little turbo lag with performance and surprisingly is a very nimble car for being FWD.)
 
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New 2020 Redesigned Hyundai Sonata platform.

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At first glance, I wasn’t sure what I thought of it, but then I think I like the bold changes they made. I can see the trend following the whole ‘fastback’ design, similar to what Honda ececuted with the Accord and of course Audi. Although the rear tail light accents resemble more Civic-ish design cues.

I think the most interesting thing, is the new Sonata actually incorporates a DRL light that slopes up around the headlight and into the hood lines, which the fourth picture indicates.

(As a Hyundai 2.0 T owner, I really enjoy the Sonata, very little turbo lag with performance and surprisingly is a very nimble car for being FWD.)

The front 3/4 of that car looks like a Ford Fusion to me. Not a bad thing IMO because I like the way the Fusion looks (or looked rather). And I absolutely love sedans with coke bottle styling. Nothing better than a car with a long hood and fastback styling in the rear, Dodge Chargers and certain Audi’s definitely come to mind. I wouldn’t buy a Sonata myself, but that is a good looking car. Much better than the Toyota look where everything is hyper angular and creased. There’s still a bit of that going on here on the front bumper, but not to the point where it looks overdone. The one thing I don’t like is the way the light bar goes up the hood instead of following the contours of the headlight itself. It would look much meaner that way, but instead it looks a bit goofy and bug-eyed.
 
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Yes, but it was an example of why you have to check that you can actually play a concert DVD in surround or listen to the TV while driving.

With Blu Ray it would be better because you can have uncompressed surround.

You can't find SACDs on the road so one could argue for a DSD player, but normally there's no place to fit it and ripping SACDs is a complicated affair, plus not everything is available in this format.

Ripping DVDs and Blu Rays is still a hassle and you can just buy them at a supermarket. I don't buy downloads, there's little multichannel to stream, and you cannot always rely on that.

I don’t think anyone would expect concert sorround sound in a car like a Toyota Etios.
 
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I don’t think anyone would expect concert sorround sound in a car like a Toyota Etios.
The speakers don't seem very good, but it should sound better if it had the rear ones.

One question I have is if all DVD units support at least 4.0 or if it can be just 2+2.
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Why would I do that when there are affordable Bentleys in the US already?
11K ?
 

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The speakers don't seem very good, but it should sound better if it had the rear ones.

One question I have is if all DVD units support at least 4.0 or if it can be just 2+2.
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11K ?

I still don’t believe anyone would expect a quality sound system from a car that costs the equivalent of $10,000 to $12,000 USD. This is the same car whose website highlights a height adjustable driver’s seat as standard feature and lists ABS as an option.

I imagine adding rear speakers in an Etios is more about having unobstructed sound in the back seat than improving overall quality characteristics in the front seat.

I can’t answer that question but I’d imagine there’s no universal answer that applies to all cars.

I guess it would be more cost effective to import a Bentley from Russia.
How so? @bunnspecial lives in Kentucky so you’d still be paying a lot to have a car shipped over. And a Hindustan Ambassador is at least 1/3 the size and weight of your average Bentley. The average price of an Ambassador in India seems to be around $1500 USD. Buying a car sight unseen is risky business and importing one from Russia sounds super sketchy, let alone a $11,000 one. Usually the garbage or totaled exotic cars that no one will buy in the US get exported to places like Russia.

Bentley’s parts are also heinously expensive (unless you get one from the few years that used the BMW V8, then at least some parts are less heinously expensive) and I can’t imagine an $11,000 Bentley is at all sorted. I can’t speak to the price of Hindustan parts prices, but I have this funny feeling they’re a lot cheaper than Bentley, a lot less complicated, a lot easier to work on, and probably more reliable.

Besides if you’re going to import a car from Russia it should be a Volga.
 
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I still don’t believe anyone would expect a quality sound system from a car that costs the equivalent of $10,000 to $12,000 USD. This is the same car whose website highlights a height adjustable driver’s seat as standard feature and lists ABS as an option.

I imagine adding rear speakers in an Etios is more about having unobstructed sound in the back seat than improving overall quality characteristics in the front seat.

I can’t answer that question but I’d imagine there’s no universal answer that applies to all cars.


How so? @bunnspecial lives in Kentucky so you’d still be paying a lot to have a car shipped over. And a Hindustan Ambassador is at least 1/3 the size and weight of your average Bentley. The average price of an Ambassador in India seems to be around $1500 USD. Buying a car sight unseen is risky business and importing one from Russia sounds super sketchy, let alone a $11,000 one. Usually the garbage or totaled exotic cars that no one will buy in the US get exported to places like Russia.

Bentley’s parts are also heinously expensive (unless you get one from the few years that used the BMW V8, then at least some parts are less heinously expensive) and I can’t imagine an $11,000 Bentley is at all sorted. I can’t speak to the price of Hindustan parts prices, but I have this funny feeling they’re a lot cheaper than Bentley, a lot less complicated, a lot easier to work on, and probably more reliable.

Besides if you’re going to import a car from Russia it should be a Volga.
I am not expecting great quality sound from the Etios. Just acceptable and surround with rear speakers.

In some other countries ABS is mandatory and it also comes with ESC.

Sound in a car without rear speakers sucks. It should surely improve in the front when you add them.

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For me that Hindustan car would be too cheap to be worth importing from India. I assumed he wanted to fix it himself as a project. It does not mean success with a Bentley would be guaranteed or worth it:

 
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If you knew anything about my interest in cars, it would make perfect sense as to why a Hindustan appeals to me.

With that said, if I'm jumping through the hoops of importing something not available in the US, I can think of two cars that WOULD be worth it to me-a 73-76 MGB GT V8, or a 93-94 MG RV8. Both can be had in the $15-20K range from the UK. With that said, there's also a good argument for the "roll your own" argument on the GT V8, although Rover V8s of the appropriate age are getting difficult to find here.
 

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Ford is moving part of the Transit Connect production from Spain to Mexico.

I guess this is good news for prospective buyers in the whole American continent (I imagine it will cost less).
 

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Ford is moving part of the Transit Connect production from Spain to Mexico.

I guess this is good news for prospective buyers in the whole American continent (I imagine it will cost less).
Ford said the Mexican units are intended for North America, and the rest of the world will continue to be served by Spain.

The ones made in Mexico will have more US and Canadian content.
 
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