The Car Thread ... !

[MatthewLTL]

The problem with ABS is often operator error. Many people feel the pedal "pulsing" and instinctively let up on it. The correct reaction when the pedal vibrates is to either keep your foot in the same place or press harder.

Take a basic physics course and you'll learn that the coefficent of static friction is always higher than the coefficient of sliding friction. ABS maintains the wheels at the threshold of locking up without actually locking up, and it calculates it hundreds of times a second. A rolling wheel can be most closely modeled as being under static friction, while a "squealing" tire is being stopped by sliding friction. The fact is that a rolling tire will stop you faster every time. Not only that, but it allows you to maintain control of the car-something that you lose when your tires are sliding.

As for T/C, the only time I ever turn it off is in very limited situations where I'm stuck in the snow and someone is helping me push to get out. Being able to spin the wheels can help "dig out" and also gives the person(or people) pushing some assistance. Oh, and when driving with the "donut", which I don't even do anymore since I got rid of that piece of crap for a full size spare mounted on a factory rim. With a RWD car especially, I can't tell you how many times it's saved me from fishtailing or other stuff(potentially dangerous in traffic) on a wet road. Granted, some of them would have been my fault for being a bit too aggressive on my throttle "tip in" but others would have been unavoidable.

BTW, as for the 86 Grand Marquis that wouldn't start in the cold-it's called a carburetor. Almost all carburated cars have cold weather issues.

I have no clue if it was a Grand Marquis but it wasn't carbureted it was fuel injected.

EDIT: it was NOT a grand marquis it looked nothing like it it wasn't box-like

 

[quagmire]

You sure it's the tires and not your foot? people never drive for weather conditions, It can bee pissing down rain, can't even see a foot in front of you and people still do 50 in a 40.

It was the tires. The LS2's are known POS's. I would go from a complete stop at a stop sign in the rain, lightly tap on the gas pedal, they started to spin immediately. In the snow they just spun no matter what I did( try to get moving in 2nd gear, etc). The Potenza's are a lot better tire. They handle wet roads and snow much much better than the LS2's.

 

[D.T.]

The Focus RS and Civic Type R are so much better than either the A3 or the CLA from a driving perspective. The price of performance keeps going up because Merc, Audi, Bimmer et al dilute their brands. An actual Audi or Merc with legitimate horsepower is a heck of a lot more expensive than $35,000.

Saw this on AutoBlog, and I remembered your post about the Type R. Enjoy!

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/06/08/xcar-honda-civic-type-r-video/

 

[MatthewLTL]

It was the tires. The LS2's are known POS's. I would go from a complete stop at a stop sign in the rain, lightly tap on the gas pedal, they started to spin immediately. In the snow they just spun no matter what I did( try to get moving in 2nd gear, etc). The Potenza's are a lot better tire. They handle wet roads and snow much much better than the LS2's.

I think most Goodyear's are like that. The Impala has Goodyear NASCAR tyres on it, in winter i can lightly press the gas in the winter and it spins, they KUMHO tyres on my car never give me that problem. If the car slips, it's due to the roads being really bad. Though I do admit its rather fun to spin tyres as winter is the only time i get to.

 

[MatthewLTL]

Oh, and when driving with the "donut"....

Speakin' of Donuts, I bought a second Donut for the Impala at a garage sale for a buck, it was completely flat of course BUT now i have 2 spare tyres!

 

[wct097]

5. You people on this forum are spending more time telling me my car is a piece of **** more than I am telling you it is better.

I'm not telling you that your car is a piece of ****. I'm questioning your ability to reason and make logical decisions regarding vehicles and giving you some suggestions which you continually rebut based on your refusal to let go of things that you really don't understand.

Specifically, I have a problem with the logic behind wasting money to buy low quality aesthetic trinkets for a vehicle that has a functional problem. I have a problem with making appearance "upgrades" to a vehicle that you don't clean. I have a problem with the logic behind thinking painters tape and zip ties are a better solution and a non-heated replacement mirror, finding a heated mirror (you've heard of the internet, right?), or taking it to a body shop.

I'm sorry, but it's absurd to suggest you or your Mom made a sudden, unprepared, emergency stop, using some kind of amazing threshold braking technique, and all the other modern, ABS powered cars were locking up the tires and sliding (which BTW, is NOT how ABS works).

I think it's absurd for him to continue basing these outlandish and oversimplified theories about vehicles on anecdotal information gleaned from other people. The things he keeps basing his reasoning on are things that belong in a thread titled "What inane things have you heard at the parts counter?" and subjects like "blinker fluid".

 

[MatthewLTL]

Caddy with a built in dash cam? I wonder can you capture the video off of it?

 

[MatthewLTL]

I'm not telling you that your car is a piece of ****. I'm questioning your ability to reason and make logical decisions regarding vehicles and giving you some suggestions which you continually rebut based on your refusal to let go of things that you really don't understand.

Specifically, I have a problem with the logic behind wasting money to buy low quality aesthetic trinkets for a vehicle that has a functional problem. I have a problem with making appearance "upgrades" to a vehicle that you don't clean. I have a problem with the logic behind thinking painters tape and zip ties are a better solution and a non-heated replacement mirror, finding a heated mirror (you've heard of the internet, right?), or taking it to a body shop.



I think it's absurd for him to continue basing these outlandish and oversimplified theories about vehicles on anecdotal information gleaned from other people. The things he keeps basing his reasoning on are things that belong in a thread titled "What inane things have you heard at the parts counter?" and subjects like "blinker fluid".

I aint made of money. Maybe you can afford to take you car to a dealer to pay $200+ for a replacement mirror but I can't Zip ties are what holds the mirror glass to the housings and the painters tape (only thing that sticks) holds the zip ties on so they dont fly off driving. Where was it stated it was a "Better" solution to a new mirror? It's illegal to NOT have a mirror, this atleast keeps it in one piece. I highly doubt the insurance will pay for a replacement considering I was the one that broke it off to begin with and the deductable is more than the cost of fix is.

I have seen cars with mirror held on way worse than this one is why do all you people act like I am the only one on the planet to do these things. I can promise you I have seen MUCH worse than what I am actually doing.

THe cleanliness of my car is not ANYONE's business Its not to lack of trying vacuums dont work on cars.

I dont put down everything about you people's cars STOP BASHING MINE!

 

[determined09]

Is it just me but is the ES 350 lower to the ground than the Toyota Camry ? I live in Houston tx and it floods here sometimes? Thank you

 

[D.T.]

Neat. GT350 engine details released (Ford media event):

- 526 HP
- 429 LB-FT
- 102 hp per liter
- 8250 RPM rev limiter
- 12:1 compression (93 octane)
- 87mm throttle body
- Second generation block - honed with torque plates
- Cylinder heads 6% lighter than Coyote
- Larger valves than Coyote
- 14mm lift cams
- Active exhaust valves
- Rifle drilled crankshaft
- Crankshaft represents only 15% of rotational inertia
- One-piece oil pan and windage tray
- Better flowing intake than Boss 302
- Most Power dense and powerful NA road-going engine in Ford history

 

[wct097]

I aint made of money. Maybe you can afford to take you car to a dealer to pay $200+ for a replacement mirror but I can't Zip ties are what holds the mirror glass to the housings and the painters tape (only thing that sticks) holds the zip ties on so they dont fly off driving. Where was it stated it was a "Better" solution to a new mirror? It's illegal to NOT have a mirror, this atleast keeps it in one piece. I highly doubt the insurance will pay for a replacement considering I was the one that broke it off to begin with and the deductable is more than the cost of fix is.

I have seen cars with mirror held on way worse than this one is why do all you people act like I am the only one on the planet to do these things. I can promise you I have seen MUCH worse than what I am actually doing.

THe cleanliness of my car is not ANYONE's business Its not to lack of trying vacuums dont work on cars.

I dont put down everything about you people's cars STOP BASHING MINE!

I'm not bashing you or your car. I'm saying that I don't understand why you'd waste time and money doing low quality appearance "mods" to your vehicle when it's dirty and has functional problems that make it look bad.

Here's an aftermarket heated side mirror for $36. You probably spent half that much on crappy quality LEDs that you don't need.

http://www.discountbodyparts.com/ca...02&c2cid=0c28af17-ea51-4e82-bd01-9bfe8455245d

Add in a rattle can of white spray paint and use some of the painters tape you already have, and you have something that doesn't stick out like a sore thumb and actually improves the usability of the car.

 

[MatthewLTL]

I'm not bashing you or your car. I'm saying that I don't understand why you'd waste time and money doing low quality appearance "mods" to your vehicle when it's dirty and has functional problems that make it look bad.

Here's an aftermarket heated side mirror for $36. You probably spent half that much on crappy quality LEDs that you don't need.

http://www.discountbodyparts.com/catalog/feeds/Chevrolet/Impala/Kool Vue/Mirror/2001/CV24EL.html?dbpcid=productads&c_aid=53600228902&c2cid=0c28af17-ea51-4e82-bd01-9bfe8455245d

Add in a rattle can of white spray paint and use some of the painters tape you already have, and you have something that doesn't stick out like a sore thumb and actually improves the usability of the car.

SWEET! that's a cheaper price than even a non heated mirror. I DO have white spray paint. Just paint the mirror before i even install it.

 

[wct097]

SWEET! that's a cheaper price than even a non heated mirror. I DO have white spray paint. Just paint the mirror before i even install it.

Exactly! If you're short on funds, that's a much better use of said funds that low quality appearance "mods" to a dirty vehicle. It's also the first thing that comes up when you Google "2001 Impala drivers side mirror".

Again though.... I don't care if your car is clean or dirty. I take exception to your decision making, reasoning, and excuses/justifications.

Example; Justification for car being filthy: "Vacuums don't work on cars"

Really????

If you don't care how it looks or are too lazy to clean it, just own it, don't make ridiculous excuses for it. I don't wash my Jeep because polishing up a rust bucket doesn't make sense to me. I only vacuum it out when it gets really bad.

 

[lowendlinux]

So I’ve been watching this:

I’ve decided I want one of them

 

[D.T.]

So I’ve been watching this:

I’ve decided I want one of them

I wasn't sure what to make of the disclaimer at the beginning - now I get it, hahaha, wow that some serious ABUSE

The Viper is a relative bargain, esp. the SRT model at $85K. I'm a Corvette guy, but factoring in price, exclusivity, track "robustness" ... I'd take the Viper over a C7 Z06.

 

[MatthewLTL]

LEDs INSTALLED:

Video of blinking:

 

[puma1552]

god this thread used to be cool, now it just plain sucks

 

[AustinIllini]

god this thread used to be cool, now it just plain sucks

I tried using the ignore button. Now the whole thread is confusing.

You're right, though. This Daewoo thread is terrible.

 

[A.Goldberg]

The mirror bulbs ARE NOT even the same size physically. I assume this means it's a T5.

Are you trying to install LEDs or conventional incandescent bulbs? Perhaps in that case try calling your dealer and asking them? It's possible its a T10 bulb just an oddly shaped one. I've had issues where the listed bulb is not actually the correct one. Also, are you sure this is the OEM mirror?

My grandpa bought my moms a new used car in 2000. The car she was driving was my grandpa's old 1986 or '88 Mercury sedan. The power windows didnt work car was hit when we were parked and had a big dent. It never started in winter (fords eh?...) (that car NEVER started in winter since my grandpa bought it he had to have a block heater installed). Point being he went to trade it in. The car he ended up buying my mom was a 1997 Mercury Tracer Station Wagon. The sticker price was $10,000. They gave him I believer $500 for the trade, which reduced the car's price to $9,500. After signing all the paperwork and adding up the bill of sale he walked out paying EXACTLY $10,000 anyway.

Ok so in 2000 your g-pa traded in a 12-14 car, with mechanical, electrical, and cosmetic issues. It's very rare anyone pays MSRP for a new car, it's not uncommon that the out-the-door price is close to the MSRP- but that has nothing to do with the trade. The car traded was worthless to the dealer, probably to be auctioned off (perhaps at a loss), and therefore a negligible amount of money overall. If you traded in a car with a blue book trade value of $8000, then you wouldn't have still paid $10k. The final negotiated price of the car (that is, before subtracting the trade) is not affected by trade. They might play games over/under-valuing the trade and affecting the sales price, but that doesn't change the difference of what you pay in the end if it's roughly proportional. With any car you still have to pay taxes and fees.

My mom recently bought a new 2015 Volvo XC70 (pretty much loaded) AWD with an MSRP of $51,000, selling price of $45,000, and roughly $50,000 after taxes. She traded in her 09 ES350 w/140,000 miles for $12,000 (maybe worth $14-15 private party), thus paid $38k cash. If she had a $500 car, she would have paid $49,500. Had she a $7k car, $43k. Your theory suggests that whether a $500 trade or $12,000 trade, my mother would have always ended up paying $50,000 + the Lexus. That makes no sense.

3 months later my mom got T-Boned in this car the entire side from the fender to the back door (passenger side) was caved in, axel broke and tyre caved in. Airbags DEPLOYED, Drive side airbag pushed he back with such force it dislocated her neck, gave her SEVERE whiplash, the PASSENGER airbag hit her on her right shoulder and DISLOCATED IT, SHOVED her with such force into the driver's door it dislocated her LEFT shoulder too. Her elbows, fingers, back AND RIBS were also SEVERLY dislocated, All of these injuries she STILL suffers from today (YES, 15 years later).

Sure, some airbags are associated with injury. So are seat belts. Some medications cause death or permanent injury. It's economics though, in the sense that the benefit overall outweighs the risk. You also have to consider that she was in a car accident and injuries happen in accidents regardless of airbags. Whiplash occurs in most car accidents. Had she a car with somewhat functional or "active" headrests (most cars headrests do not adequately prevent whiplash), perhaps that would have been different. For the entire side of the car to be caved in and the axel broken, it sounds like it was at a decent rate of speed. Even 5mph from the rear is enough to give someone a good case of whiplash.

THAT's THE AIRBAG STORY. So don't try telling me "airbags don't give you whiplash or dont hurt you". She would of been better off without the airbags. and IF she didn't have the ABS making the car palsate she most likey could of prevented the wreck by stopping in time damn ABS didn't help matters made them worse.

Or without the ABS she would have slammed on the brakes and skidded at a higher rate of speed. Who knows? I don't think one can adequately infer what could have been. Even if that was the case, the "truth", it doesn't mean airbags won't help you. Statistics report that more lives are saved than without. Injuries are considered a better outcome than deaths. Believe me, I know what it's like to live with chronic pain, I live it every day, but I'd still choose live over death.

The accident caused over $10,000 in damages, The insurance company SPECIFICALLY said if the airbags DIDN'T deploy they would have fixed the car. They said the combination of the airbags costing $1500 a piece and the shattered windsheild from the airbags is the main reason they totalled it out.

Ok, so you collect the $10,000 in insurance money and move on. Accidents happen, personally I'd rather have a new car after half the thing being demolished than risk driving some heavily repaired vehicle. Accidents dislodge things, break wires, etc. Years down the road that can easily translate into issues.

People change the dash light colors all the time they also change the interior lights too. It's LIGHTS!

I've never seen anyone do this, except in the new Mercedes with the ambient lighting selection.

The mirror IS going to be replaced, the problem is FINDING one. This car has heated mirrors all the mirrors i can get locally or online are just power NOT heated.

I'm sure finding a mirror for an Impala, one of the most mass produced vehicles in America, is not the most difficult of tasks. It can be done, I believe in you.

I suppose you will tell me a non-matching mirror and door handles will "devalue" the car too?

Sometimes I can't tell if you're serious. Do mismatching body panels devalue a car? Do people with mismatching socks look disheveled?

That is a 1998-2000 Daewoo Lanos not a 2001.

Or does the Daewoo Lanos look like other cars?

In my opinion vehicular priorities should be:
1. Safety systems, functional problems, routine maintenance
2. Cleanliness
3. Repairs of aesthetic blemishes
4. Aesthetic mods or upgrades / functional mods or upgrades

Sound wisdom.

1. After all said and done he saved like $100... pretty meaningless with a $10,000 price tag, even $500 is rather meaningless.

The $500 is meaningless because it's a negligible amount of money compared to $10,000. Here you had 2 essentially options
1) Spend $10,000 + taxes and fees, spend ~$10,500 -OR-
2) Spend $9,500 + trade in the car + taxes and fees, and spend ~$10,000

4. You make a point IF that were even true in this case. It hurt her more than it protected her!

But you can't pick and choose. What if she was in an fatal accident that could have been prevented had she had airbags? Like I mentioned before, injury is preferable to death. "Life over limb"

5. You people on this forum are spending more time telling me my car is a piece of **** more than I am telling you it is better. Do explain something: How is it a car that is a complete pile of **** can go 15 years and NEVER any exhaust work? It's never needed a muffler (whereas ALL cars before it needed a new muffler or SOME kind of exhaust every 3 years)

People are just disagreeing with you, not necessarily telling you its a POS. You say it's in excellent condition and that it runs just find, when there is a lot of evidence to suggest the contrary. Where are you pulling this exhaust thing from? My car is 6 years old and doesn't need exhaust work. My old car (2003) was 11 years old and never had exhaust work. Exhaust work is not the final judgement if a car is reliable or not. It just sounds like you've had a lot of serious/complex/atypical problems for a car with so few miles. Even having bad brakes and A/C from the factory sounds like an issue.

Piece of ****? I think not.

You clearly don't have a reliable car to compare this to...

the only downfall to leather is that it burns your ass in the summer and is like sitting on a bag of ice in winter.

I actually never heard that being said.... I said that out of experence. It's not that ***** hard to pay attention! I have never been in a accident NOT because I am a percision driver BUT because I PAY ATTENTION TO MY SURROUNDINGS! I also happen to KNOW my car and happen to know it handles like **** in winter THEREFORE I drive accordingly.

I thought you are a precision driver. OK. So what if you're at a stop light. There is a car infront of you, a car on your left, and a car on your right. A Mack Dumptruck driver is texting while driving. He rear ends your car at 35mph. How do you prevent this from happening? You're boxed in, where do you go?

ABS don't "Lock up" the brakes it reduces their effetiveness. tell me when you are about to crash what do you do? Stand on the brakes or pump them? Which would stop you faster? STANDING ON THEM! ABS is just computer-controlled brake pumping.

What happened to that video I showed you with the comparative braking distances of a car with the ABS on and off? How did you address that evidence?

 

[AustinIllini]

Saw this on AutoBlog, and I remembered your post about the Type R. Enjoy!

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/06/08/xcar-honda-civic-type-r-video/

Thanks for posting this. This is honestly everything I love about old Hondas. Loud, powerful, and an unbelievable gearbox. Love everything this Civic represents.

I really can't wait for more road tests.

 

[A.Goldberg]

god this thread used to be cool, now it just plain sucks

I tried using the ignore button. Now the whole thread is confusing.

You're right, though. This Daewoo thread is terrible.

The uselessness of ABS, Airbags, etc... How many times must this debate be repeated. It's deja vu over and over.

The numbers speak for themselves. For those who are ignorant of statistics and facts, best of luck. When their decisions get themselves or others seriously injured or killed, they will have to live (or die) with the consequences.

 

[D.T.]

Thanks for posting this. This is honestly everything I love about old Hondas. Loud, powerful, and an unbelievable gearbox. Love everything this Civic represents.

I really can't wait for more road tests.

No sweat. That was a nicely put together video - the production, camera work, the fellow doing the drive/commentary was a lot of fun.

The Type R seems pretty crazy. With FI, it's probably a tune, maybe a downpipe/exhaust, intake away from 350-ish HP. I'm not really the target demo, but I can totally appreciate it ... to bad it's not slated for for a US release.

 

[AustinIllini]

No sweat. That was a nicely put together video - the production, camera work, the fellow doing the drive/commentary was a lot of fun.

The Type R seems pretty crazy. With FI, it's probably a tune, maybe a downpipe/exhaust, intake away from 350-ish HP. I'm not really the target demo, but I can totally appreciate it ... to bad it's not slated for for a US release.

Here's the actual Nurburgring lap.

I just wish it wasn't so funny looking.

 

[D.T.]

Here's the actual Nurburgring lap.

I just wish it wasn't so funny looking.

Yeah, goddam, that's quick in general, let alone for a FWD Civic

The styling is a little goofy, but I guess that's part of the whole character. At least it's not all style and no go!

 

[MatthewLTL]

Are you trying to install LEDs or conventional incandescent bulbs? Perhaps in that case try calling your dealer and asking them? It's possible its a T10 bulb just an oddly shaped one. I've had issues where the listed bulb is not actually the correct one. Also, are you sure this is the OEM mirror?


Ok so in 2000 your g-pa traded in a 12-14 car, with mechanical, electrical, and cosmetic issues. It's very rare anyone pays MSRP for a new car, it's not uncommon that the out-the-door price is close to the MSRP- but that has nothing to do with the trade. The car traded was worthless to the dealer, probably to be auctioned off (perhaps at a loss), and therefore a negligible amount of money overall. If you traded in a car with a blue book trade value of $8000, then you wouldn't have still paid $10k. The final negotiated price of the car (that is, before subtracting the trade) is not affected by trade. They might play games over/under-valuing the trade and affecting the sales price, but that doesn't change the difference of what you pay in the end if it's roughly proportional. With any car you still have to pay taxes and fees.

My mom recently bought a new 2015 Volvo XC70 (pretty much loaded) AWD with an MSRP of $51,000, selling price of $45,000, and roughly $50,000 after taxes. She traded in her 09 ES350 w/140,000 miles for $12,000 (maybe worth $14-15 private party), thus paid $38k cash. If she had a $500 car, she would have paid $49,500. Had she a $7k car, $43k. Your theory suggests that whether a $500 trade or $12,000 trade, my mother would have always ended up paying $50,000 + the Lexus. That makes no sense.


Sure, some airbags are associated with injury. So are seat belts. Some medications cause death or permanent injury. It's economics though, in the sense that the benefit overall outweighs the risk. You also have to consider that she was in a car accident and injuries happen in accidents regardless of airbags. Whiplash occurs in most car accidents. Had she a car with somewhat functional or "active" headrests (most cars headrests do not adequately prevent whiplash), perhaps that would have been different. For the entire side of the car to be caved in and the axel broken, it sounds like it was at a decent rate of speed. Even 5mph from the rear is enough to give someone a good case of whiplash.


Or without the ABS she would have slammed on the brakes and skidded at a higher rate of speed. Who knows? I don't think one can adequately infer what could have been. Even if that was the case, the "truth", it doesn't mean airbags won't help you. Statistics report that more lives are saved than without. Injuries are considered a better outcome than deaths. Believe me, I know what it's like to live with chronic pain, I live it every day, but I'd still choose live over death.

Ok, so you collect the $10,000 in insurance money and move on. Accidents happen, personally I'd rather have a new car after half the thing being demolished than risk driving some heavily repaired vehicle. Accidents dislodge things, break wires, etc. Years down the road that can easily translate into issues.

I've never seen anyone do this, except in the new Mercedes with the ambient lighting selection.


I'm sure finding a mirror for an Impala, one of the most mass produced vehicles in America, is not the most difficult of tasks. It can be done, I believe in you.

Sometimes I can't tell if you're serious. Do mismatching body panels devalue a car? Do people with mismatching socks look disheveled?


Or does the Daewoo Lanos look like other cars?


Sound wisdom.



The $500 is meaningless because it's a negligible amount of money compared to $10,000. Here you had 2 essentially options
1) Spend $10,000 + taxes and fees, spend ~$10,500 -OR-
2) Spend $9,500 + trade in the car + taxes and fees, and spend ~$10,000

But you can't pick and choose. What if she was in an fatal accident that could have been prevented had she had airbags? Like I mentioned before, injury is preferable to death. "Life over limb"


People are just disagreeing with you, not necessarily telling you its a POS. You say it's in excellent condition and that it runs just find, when there is a lot of evidence to suggest the contrary. Where are you pulling this exhaust thing from? My car is 6 years old and doesn't need exhaust work. My old car (2003) was 11 years old and never had exhaust work. Exhaust work is not the final judgement if a car is reliable or not. It just sounds like you've had a lot of serious/complex/atypical problems for a car with so few miles. Even having bad brakes and A/C from the factory sounds like an issue.


You clearly don't have a reliable car to compare this to...


What happened to that video I showed you with the comparative braking distances of a car with the ABS on and off? How did you address that evidence?

1. I am looking to replace the bulbs with LEDs. The mirror is the factory mirror the standard syle mirror used in a '95 Baretta, '98 S10 and '00-'05 GMs with OnStar. I did remove the OnStar module however the mirror stays.
2. Trade in value of a car is way less than book value. For example 2 years ago (maybe 3) I did a book value on my Lanos. It had a value of $2700. However if I were to trade it in for something else, a dealer would only pay $500 for it. $500 for a car worth around $3,000? Don't seem practical.
3. Airbags are not suppose to deploy on side impacts. Curtain airbags didn't exist in '97
4. She just pulled out of her work parking lot to head home. the car that hit her was going 40 in the parking lot across the way didn't even look slammed into her and pushed her into the curb on the oppisite side of the road. It was a older car with those metal bumpers (the one that hit her).
5. We did move on. She had a rental car paid by the insurance for a couple of weeks than my grandpa used the insurance money to buy the Daewoo. The MSRP was $12000. he used the entire check from the insurance plus money out of hs own pocket to pay the rest. (hence how the Daewoo was paid in full for day one.) He thought because she had to commute for 60 miles round trip 5 days a week getting her a brand new car over another used one was the way to go.
6. Check cars out on CarDomain, most cars on there have either red, green or blue interior lighting.
7. Actually did find one another member linked too.
8. You tell me? people on here saying that putting in LEDs, a personal-preference shift knob do. To me you see cars with a mismatched panel or bumper look more tacky than and interior customization that doesn't hurt a thing. Takes literayy 5 seconds to put the factory shift knob back on and probably 5 minutes or less to put the factory pedal covers back in. What's next people will tell me my black rubber floor mats devalue the car because it doesn't match the gray carpet?
9. The impala is reliable (execpt in winter) the impala has never been in the shop (other than to have the tyre bead leaks fixed) What's to compare?

Daewoo started at -10 this past winter, Impala.... DEAD the damn impala had a dead battery every week literally. the Daewoo sat up to 3 weeks at a time... started up every time. The Daewoo has never needed exhaust work, Impala had a exhaust leak, Daewoo has NEVER had a issue starting, Impala needs a fuel pressure regulator.... Daewoo has never needed a turn signal relay, Impala has a faulty one, Daewoo doesn't burn oil the impala does. So you tell me, what's more reliable?