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senseless

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I think you're talking about the N54 correct? That was the older twin-turbo engine. It was super mod friendly (minor mods pushing 400+ hp), but there were tons of issues, such as injector problems, carbon build-up, turbos needing replacement, and above all, the HPFP used to grenade. BMW did step up to the plate and warrantied everything up to 100k miles (don't remember the exact coverage)

The replacement was the N55, which produced the same power, but is a twin-scroll single turbo. It wasn't as mod friendly, but they solved most, if not all, the problems with it. They're practically bulletproof now. The only issue that can crop up with the N55 nowadays is the HPFPs (rare though), but that's a pretty easy fix. BMW covers them and a dealer can do the replacement within a few hours.

For MY16, they're finally dropping the N55 and bringing out the 340i with new B58 engine.

That being said, I've driven so many N54/55 cars and prefer the N55. There is no turbo-lag with the N55 and I wouldn't be scared to own one out of warranty, but the N54? No thanks, even if BMW is footing the bill. Not worth the headache. I'd find a 1 series with the N55.

The N55 is the reason why BMW is one of the leaders in forced induction now.

Ah, that's exactly what I was wondering. Model year 2011 started using the N55 and that's what I will look for then. Thanks!
 

A.Goldberg

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Unfortunately, true "small" pickups(i.e. Ranger, S-10) seem to have disappeared. The Tacoma used to be that size, but has picked up a few pounds over the years.

Among the options you listed, I have personal experience with the Frontier and Tacoma. My dad had(I think) an '09 Frontier, and a friend had an '07 Tacoma. That particular Frontier ended up being a nightmare. It was a great truck when it was running, but seemed to have non-stop ECM problems. Fortunately, all were repaired under warranty, but still the truck was out of commission for months at a time. I think it went through 2 or 3 ECMS in a year.
The small trucks have certainly vanished from the market. It is interesting how some of the 1/2 ton trucks are more efficient than than the small guys. At this point the Tacoma is a very old vehicle. The Nissan is as well. If nothing else the Colorado/Canyon is new. I hope they bring the diesel option onboard as predicted.

The GMC Canyon honestly is the best looking, partially luxury compact pickup anyone could get... Top of the class. The Tacoma has rust issues, wouldn't touch it at all
Given the age of the competitors, it shouldn't be hard! I didn't realize they still had rust problems. I knew the 90's and early 00's were notorious for rust. I just googled it on the newer models and it seems to be quite rampant.

those useless HID lights
I forgot to ask, tell me why HIDs are useless? Have you ever drive a car with them?

What's the story with the BMW twin turbo engines from 2008-2011? I've heard some horror stories about this engine, but some say it's overblown. (not a pun). I'm looking at used 135i's, but I'm concerned about getting a crippling repair bill.
My 2009 535xi has the N54 3.0L I6 twin turbo. The turbo has been fine in it, I'm almost at 100k. Known as the Wastegate settlement N54 turbos are warrantied for 8yrs or 82k miles from the original purchase. The HPFP fail, which was covered under the regular warranty- but I believe that was extended to 10yrs or 100k miles. The last problem big problem here are the fuel injectors, which I don't believe My car has had an issue with either. At least those are the least expensive items to fix if they break.

Despite the little engineering/reliability issues, it's a fantastic engine. Makes buying the old e60 v8 a complete waste of money. The drivetrain hasn't really been an issue for me- the electronics and suspension maintenance have been the big things.

That said, don't buy a 1-series. IMO they're too cheap and skimpy. Get a 3 coupe or a z4.
 

iLog.Genius

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I personally would and easily take a 128i over any forced induction BMW. If you're into tuning and modding well the N54/N55 is the only way to really go but if you're not and looking for a BMW to drive in the traditional sense - naturally aspirated straight-six, manual transmission, RWD, relatively small (in comparison to the E9X), the E82 128i is the BMW to get. Any problems you get with the 1er you get in the 3er (pretty much the same electronics) but you save yourself any engine problems with the bulletproof N52 which is so underrated (in discussion) because of how good the N54/N55 is.
 

MatthewLTL

macrumors 68000
Jan 22, 2015
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It's been about ten years since I was last in the states. At that time is struck me as plain strange that most domestic market cars flash their brake lights as a turn signal. We europeans are used to a separate amber light for that.

EU standardised on separate brake, tail, turn signals, reversing and high intensity rear fog lights (required on the drivers side only) back in the 70s I think. Oh and a reflector strip.
Some American cars have seperate turn signal signal indicators. My Daewoo does.
 

senseless

macrumors 68000
Apr 23, 2008
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Pennsylvania, USA
I personally would and easily take a 128i over any forced induction BMW. If you're into tuning and modding well the N54/N55 is the only way to really go but if you're not and looking for a BMW to drive in the traditional sense - naturally aspirated straight-six, manual transmission, RWD, relatively small (in comparison to the E9X), the E82 128i is the BMW to get. Any problems you get with the 1er you get in the 3er (pretty much the same electronics) but you save yourself any engine problems with the bulletproof N52 which is so underrated (in discussion) because of how good the N54/N55 is.
Not a bad idea to go with the 128i. With the sport package, other options and manual, it could still be a fun car. I'm not looking to race it and am more interested in nimble handling. The regular straight six is a great engine.
 

Suture

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We had a discussion about used 135s some time ago on The Car Lounge. I think the general consensus was to just get one from Carmax so you could get the aftermarket warranty.
 

D.T.

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Not a bad idea to go with the 128i. With the sport package, other options and manual, it could still be a fun car. I'm not looking to race it and am more interested in nimble handling. The regular straight six is a great engine.

I guess it's my love for factory FI, tuning, etc., but no way I'd go with a 128 over a 135. :D
 

D.T.

macrumors G4
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Sep 15, 2011
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I checked Carmax for 1 and 3 series BMWs with manual trans and out of 63 cars, just one was manual. Seems like Americans have been getting lazy.

DCT - the [later generation] BMW sequential system - is pretty sweet. I love a manual, but honestly, if I was considering a car where a SG was an option, I'd give it very serious consideration.
 

2298754

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I checked Carmax for 1 and 3 series BMWs with manual trans and out of 63 cars, just one was manual. Seems like Americans have been getting lazy.

That's a valid point, but you have to remember that the 3 series is basically America's lease king.

They are dime a dozen in any upper class neighborhood. And the overwhelming majority of those are stripper 320i/328i with vinyl seats, halogens, and maybe GPS. The 6MT cars actually lease higher than the stripper AT models.

I remember looking for a used 335xi a few months ago. They were pretty hard to find in loaded form. All of them lacked many key options.
 

2298754

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DCT - the [later generation] BMW sequential system - is pretty sweet. I love a manual, but honestly, if I was considering a car where a SG was an option, I'd give it very serious consideration.

The N55 + DCT combo only came to the 1 and 3 series very late in their product cycle. The 135is and 335is got the DCT, but BMW has really reserved them for the M cars.

If I could find a clean CPO 135/335is, it's a wrap. I'd buy it.
 

2298754

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Those Hi-pressured fuel pumps of the old N55 were a real problem for a couple years.. I wouldn't touch the car without a warranty.. Lot of money to fix from what I read on the bimmer forums
You're thinking of the N54. Early N55s also exhibited the HPFP problems, but that was because they were still using the older HPFP revision from the N54 era. They have since been updated multiple times and BMW good-wills them out of warranty.

However, I do agree. I'm not buying any used BMW with no warranty.
 

lucasfer899

macrumors 6502
Sep 23, 2012
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This just made my morning.

A Daewoo is on par with a Honda, but a LR and Benz are garbage?

Is this real life?
Luxury cars with luxury maintenance costs is diabolical to some people.

A $85k Merc will lose $60.2K in value in under 10 years. They cost a fortune to fix and have computer driving every single part of the car all of which fail and cost THOUSANDS to replace.
Appearance wise they are amazing, electronically and mechanically, however,..... total garbage
It's no surprise that a high end luxury car loses most of its value after 10 years, just with any other car.

My mate has a 2012 C63 AMG and he loves it too bits. I love driving it but it's been in the garage since he has owned it so many times he is losing patients with it. Nearly once a month it's in and no, that's not an exaggeration I'm afraid
There is nothing to back this up, people in my area have had flawless service from their 2012 C63s.

Why do you want to blind oncoming drivers?

What you're trying to do with your headlights should be illegal. In fact, maybe it already is.
It is, he doesn't care about oncoming drivers, earlier in the thread he said he wanted to have dim LED DRL fogs, now he's saying he wants them to be as powerful as high beams... and still DRL.

I don't need high beams. I RARELY drive at night but when i do I NEED TO SEE DAMMIT! headlights are not bright enough and the fogs are dimmer than the headlights. The only use the High beams are is they serve as the DRLs.

EDIT: Driving with Fog lights on with no fog is illegal, Driving with no front plate is illegal, Driving with parking lights on is illegal. Does that mean people do it? Yup!. Some GMs even have the Parking lights as the DRLs from factory so go figure. everytime i drive the impala i drive WITH DRLs, Parking Lights AND fogs on. Will I ever be stopped? NOPE! I even drove my Daewoo around for a week with no front plate on because I was waiting to get mounting clips for the bracket. Was I stopped? NOPE! even passed a cop with no front plate either.

Headlights from oncoming traffic at night ALONE is blinding. Any LED under $30 is dim so no issues there.
Is it legal to commit crime? No. People don't always get caught, but most eventually do and when that happens you will be fined.

@A.Goldberg, HID are blinding for the most part. Also mind you that ill be putting in 7Watt LED fog bulbs, NOT 50W bulbs.
7watt LED are just as bright as 50watt halogens, what are you talking about?!


Why would insurance pay for it? It wasn't in an accident.
He failed to do basic maintenance and somehow conned insurance into sorting it for him? God knows.
 

jamin00

macrumors 6502a
Apr 14, 2012
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Essex, UK.
There is nothing to back this up, people in my area have had flawless service from their 2012 C63s.

Nothing to back it up? Im not lying lol. Other than getting him to do a quote for you can't see what I can do pmsl. I love that car of his and love driving it when I can and Im in no way saying they are all the same but it stopped me buying one as he is the only person I know with one and the experience he is having is shocking for a top car. Plus the Merc aftersales is not that great too.
 

D.T.

macrumors G4
Original poster
Sep 15, 2011
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Vilano Beach, FL
So the convertible version of the new 6th Gen Camaro is going to be revealed on Wed - from the promo video, it shows "one touch" retract, and it has solid rear tonneau, so it appears it's going to be retractable at speed (and have an implementation quite a bit like the C7 Vert). While the new car isn't a radical departure, it's definitely got the right updates in the right place (weight, chassis, drivetrain). I think a 455HP SS convertible with an 8-speed auto would make a _nice_ cruiser :D

Video:



A few small/low-res photos were leaked (apparently posted too soon on the Chevy site :D ), here's a few, very nice looking as a convertible:


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D.T.

macrumors G4
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Sep 15, 2011
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Yeah, it really makes the design look more lean and athletic. I love how it really makes the side and rear fender sculpting stand out.
 

bunnspecial

macrumors G3
May 3, 2014
8,352
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Kentucky
Saw this one parked on campus today. I didn't immediately recognize the guy who got in it, but I think it was Russ Smith(Memphis Grizzlies). Given where it was parked on campus and the building where the guy who jumped into it came from, I'm sure it belonged to a recent NBA draft pick.

I also saw Guorgi Dieng get into a more modest Audi :)

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