The Car Thread ... !

[MatthewLTL]

If only they made a Daewoo Matiz in a sedan I would be interested. Not a fan of hatchbacks expecially in the form of the US-model Matiz where it's 4 door. Even the Kalos hatchbacks dont look good. Hatchbacks are meant to be 2 door, when then have four they look like they dont belong.

 

[lucasfer899]

If only they made a Daewoo Matiz in a sedan I would be interested. Not a fan of hatchbacks expecially in the form of the US-model Matiz where it's 4 door. Even the Kalos hatchbacks dont look good. Hatchbacks are meant to be 2 door, when then have four they look like they dont belong.

So you're saying you want this thing as a two door sedan?
A) I'm sure a two door sedan is usually a coupe and B) WHY?!

 

[MatthewLTL]

So you're saying you want this thing as a two door sedan?
A) I'm sure a two door sedan is usually a coupe and B) WHY?!

not that one that's the previous generation i mean this one:

 

[bunnspecial]

Since by your own statements a lot of these Chevys are Daewoo models, why not buy the Bowtie and live with it?

I don't see the Daewoo brand coming back to America any time soon.

 

[MatthewLTL]

Since by your own statements a lot of these Chevys are Daewoo models, why not buy the Bowtie and live with it?

I don't see the Daewoo brand coming back to America any time soon.

If I were to ever buy a bowtie Daewoo, I would go online and buy the parts needed to revert it to its TRUE identity. Daewoo Grille and badging.

 

[Muscle Master]

Are you weird or something?... What is with you and Daewoo!... I'm tired of reading Daewoo this and Daewoo that.... YOU DRIVE A DAEWOO.... We freaking get it!!!! jeez, if you haven't noticed... Everybody makes fun of you and your Ricky dink DAEWOO that's falling apart... My first car which was a 2005 Cavalier is a better car than that... And my Cavalier was junk!!!

 

[Muscle Master]

Are you weird or something?... What is with you and Daewoo!... I'm tired of reading Daewoo this and Daewoo that.... YOU DRIVE A DAEWOO.... We freaking get it!!!! jeez, if you haven't noticed... Everybody makes fun of you and your Ricky dink DAEWOO that's falling apart... My first car which was a 2005 Cavalier is a better car than that... And my Cavalier was junk!!!

Can we talk about something else now, the new XT5 was leaked:

 

[rdowns]

not that one that's the previous generation i mean this one:

What's that supposed to be? Sort of a cross between piss yellow and puke green?

 

[bunnspecial]

What's that supposed to be? Sort of a cross between piss yellow and puke green?

I was watching National Lampoon's Vacation the other day and it reminds me of the "Metallic Pea Green" on the Wagon Queen Family Truckster.

 

[A.Goldberg]

I guess no one checked the sales of the Chevrolet Equinox or the Ford Escape and Ford Edge huh

The Asian brands however have still demonstrated better overall sales, especially in a historical context. The information really shows the transformation GM went through after the 2008-2009 auto collapse. As I previously mentioned, the Escape has always done very well. The Edge information, I'm not sure what you're trying to indicate, their sales are mostly stable. Last year the Asian mfg's sold 335,000 CRV's, 265,000 Rav4's, 200,000 Rogues, and 160,000 Foresters. I suspect the Equinox sales are so high are because their entry price is almost $4000 below most of the other cars listed here ($20,000 vs $24,000, that's almost 20% cheaper- and apparently shows as it's ranked at the bottom of it's class). If you consider worldwide sales, I can't imagine many of the US models do well (if they even are offered).

And the AWD system in the CRV is a joke, better of buying Subaru than Honda and Turdyota

True, but most drivers of that genre don't really know or care. While the system isn't great, the 3rd party frictionless roller tests (TC off?) used to demonstrate the inefficacy of the AWD system is not really representative of the real world. According to Honda problem is with how the system limits high torque and recognizes differences in it between the axels, The complication occurs if the front wheels have zero traction and the rear wheels complete. In most all situations, all 4 wheels are on the same surface and experience some level of traction. Is it the best AWD option or will it beat out a Land Rover- certainly not, but this car is for everyday drivers. The trade off here was to improv the MPG.

My E60 has BMW's xDrive AWD system. My old Grand Cherokee had Quadra-Drive (auto-mechanical locking center diff + variable locking front and rear diffs, theoretically one of the best stock 4WD systems out there). The BMW's system is much more efficient engaging, but the Jeep was unstoppable.

Can we talk about something else now, the new XT5 was leaked:
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I must say I think it looks pretty good. GM seems to be edging away from their oddball long, tall, station wagon look for their car based SUVs.

 

[A.Goldberg]

If I were on-say-I-264 in Louisville during rush hour, there's not a chance in heck that I'm going to change it myself.

There is no sense in risking your life to change a tire. When I got that flat tire, there was no way in hell I was going out onto the highway, while it was dark and sleeting (aka reduced visibility), to get on the ground and change a tire. If I were to change a tire, it'd take probably 10-15 minutes. For the experiences AAA guy with a pneumatic wrench and jack- he might as well be the NASCAR pit team.

Slightly used Toyotas/Hondas are almost never a good buy. One of my family members recently bought a 1 year old RAV4 Limited with 20k miles on it and CPO warranty. He paid $2k less than a new one.

That's usually the case. For example, I know someone looking to buy an RDX- a 2014 CPO is $35k, a 2015 is $37k. My sister on the other hand, as I stated, got a fantastic deal on her CPO Rav4 Limited. I believe it was ~$7,000 under new with 16k miles and a 100k b2b warranty (versus the standard 50k).

Yup, I'm in Boston. Actually live down the street from Ari!

Howdy, neighbor. Good old, Beacon Street- the line in the sand. We need to get some Kupel's one of these days. BTW, I realized why you hate Maserati so much- you're jealous of all the BC kids.

Cool. I'm working on a project with Tufts Medical Center We probably need to get back up, haven't been since like 7 years ago, and a few days before we left, my wife found out she was pregnant ... which as you might imagine, dialed back her fun quotient

TMC is a great place, I know a number of people who love it there. My sister went to Tufts undergrad. Come up to Boston, grab some lunch or brunch, AutoUnion39 can take us for a spin down upper Comm Ave with his A7.

If only they made a Daewoo Matiz

Fixed

 

[2298754]

Howdy, neighbor. Good old, Beacon Street- the line in the sand. We need to get some Kupel's one of these days. BTW, I realized why you hate Maserati so much- you're jealous of all the BC kids.

Of course. In a new weeks.

Lol, I hate BC because I went to BU for undergrad. Most of the asians driving like idiots in their Euro imports are BU students.

Remember that kid who got caught driving 100mph thru Back Bay? He was driving a Maserati

TMC is a great place, I know a number of people who love it there. My sister went to Tufts undergrad. Come up to Boston, grab some lunch or brunch, AutoUnion39 can take us for a spin down upper Comm Ave with his A7.

S7 will be gone soon. Selling it before the facelift kills my resale.

(But yes, if you're ever in Boston, let's all meetup)

 

[2298754]

Can we talk about something else now, the new XT5 was leaked:
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Doesn't look all that special. Looks like any generic GM SUV

I'm sure it will sell well though. The lack of SUVs is the reason why Cadillac is doing so poorly

 

[Muscle Master]

Doesn't look all that special. Looks like any generic GM SUV

I'm sure it will sell well though. The lack of SUVs is the reason why Cadillac is doing so poorly

... I bet your a fan of the Lexus RX and NX design though

 

[2298754]

... I bet your a fan of the Lexus RX and NX design though

Nope. They're both hideous, but they will sell no matter what. They have a Lexus badge on the front and come with superb quality, resale, and customer service. The RX and NX are distinctly Lexus. You could put a GMC badge on the XT5 and it would be fine.

The ATS and CTS are fantastic, yet no one buys them...

Why? Cadillac's brand image is broken. It's going to take a long time for that to change.

 

[Muscle Master]

Nope. They're both hideous, but they will sell no matter what. They have a Lexus badge on the front and come with superb quality, resale, and customer service.

The ATS and CTS are fantastic, yet no one buys them...

Why? Cadillac's brand image is broken. It's going to take a long time for that to change.

It's that dumbass stigma that German/Jap cars are better smh.. You should have heard the ATS-V vs. RC-F debate in my breakroom smh... Apple needs a facepalm emoji

 

[2298754]

It's that dumbass stigma that German/Jap cars are better smh.. You should have heard the ATS-V vs. RC-F debate in my breakroom smh... Apple needs a facepalm emoji

I don't agree with the stigma, but it is there for a good reason. I don't know why domestic fans always have to make a big deal about it.

While the domestic luxury brands were screwing around and making complete trash year after year, we saw Audi/BMW/Benz/Porsche/Lexus invest millions year after year in quality products and that boosted their image. They deserve the recognition they're getting.

GM just can't be like hey, Cadillac is now a BMW killer. It's not that easy and they're experiencing it first hand. No one is buying their cars, even when they're trying to blow them out for dirt cheap

And on the topic of the ATSV and RCF. They're both lackluster. The RCF is a fat pig and the ATS-V (while an insane performance machine) lacks the quality interior/fit and finish of the competition.

 

[2298754]

So I've been driving around a 2016 BMW X3 for the last few hours and I'm convinced that iDrive is the best out there.

The integration with the iPhone is fantastic.

You can actually control Spotify directly from the screen/steering wheel controls. The radio stations, playlists, etc all show up in the iDrive

It does the same for Pandora and some apps I didn't try. I've tried every other system out there and no one compares right now.

 

[MatthewLTL]

Are you weird or something?... What is with you and Daewoo!... I'm tired of reading Daewoo this and Daewoo that.... YOU DRIVE A DAEWOO.... We freaking get it!!!! jeez, if you haven't noticed... Everybody makes fun of you and your Ricky dink DAEWOO that's falling apart... My first car which was a 2005 Cavalier is a better car than that... And my Cavalier was junk!!!

Well lets see, for starters a DAEWOO will always start in the winter, Can't say the same for F.O.R.D.s or chevys. 2ndly Daewoo's are reliable they never leave you stranded. I wouldn't call a seized caliper or a blown wheel cylinder "falling apart". All fixed now (hopefully). BTW in case anyone is wondering the code the car throws is P3112

 

[bunnspecial]

Well lets see, for starters a DAEWOO will always start in the winter, Can't say the same for F.O.R.D.s or chevys.

I don't know why I'm taking the bait, but I'll do it.

Do know how many times my car has failed to start in the winter of the past 7 years of ownership?

Exactly once-even at that it still started but then died. This was in January of 2010, when the(factory) battery decided to give up the ghost. I'll take a moment to point out that that's 6 years on a factory battery. I replaced the battery, and it's been fine since then. That includes days this past winter where the high flirted with 0ºF and the low was somewhere around -15º.

Over about 15 years of owning Town Cars, we've never had one fail to start in the winter, including some mild winters and some cold ones(by KY standards). I pretty much drove the '91 Ranger exclusively in the winter of '11/12 after I broke my(left) leg and it was a lot easier for me to get in and out of it with the cast and then boot. That was December through mid-January, which admittedly isn't the coldest part of the year but it was 100% reliable. My old Maxima('94) never failed to start in the winter.

The only vehicle I've ever experienced cold starting issues with was the Nissan Frontier('07, I think, or somewhere around there) when the gas line froze. I dumped two bottles of HEET along with a 5 gallon can of gas into the tank, then my dad and I rolled it into the garage to thaw out(it hadn't been driven in a couple of days, and I think the projected high on that particular day was around 20ºF). After a few hours in the garage, I shot some starter fluid into the intake, got it running, let it idle in the driveway for about 20 minutes, and then took it for a long drive(mostly to recharge the battery) and it was fine after that.

Winter starting really is a non-issue for the majority of modern cars, especially with fuel injection over the past 25 years or so and especially with direct injection becoming more common in the past few years. About the only thing that can kill a car in the winter these days are a bad battery(which often doesn't reveal itself as "bad" short of load testing until low temperatures) and a frozen gas line. A frozen gas line can usually be avoided by keeping the tank reasonably full, buying good gas, driving the car at least semi regularly, and throwing in an additive like HEET if you think you have a significant amount of water in your gas.

 

[determined09]

I had AAA completely destroy/mangle my locking lug nut key/socket after changing a flat. I asked him not to use a pneumatic wrench to put the wheel back on... Did he listen? When I went to the tire shop to get the tire repaired, the key was unusable, but they managed.

Luckily I had OEM wheel locks. For the remaining 3 whees, I went to the dealer who said there were (and had in their shop) about a dozen different key patterns. They found the correct key, removed my locking lugs, and sold me regular lugs (cheaper and faster than buying a new key).

Thanks. I just found my wheel lock. It was still in zip compartment of the purse that I had stopped using.

 

[Muscle Master]

Well lets see, for starters a DAEWOO will always start in the winter, Can't say the same for F.O.R.D.s or chevys. 2ndly Daewoo's are reliable they never leave you stranded. I wouldn't call a seized caliper or a blown wheel cylinder "falling apart". All fixed now (hopefully). BTW in case anyone is wondering the code the car throws is P3112

Okay fine.. If that's your prerogative... By all means, but can you contribute anything to this thread other than comparing everything that's being talked about to your damn Daewoo... Please!!!! It's freaking annoying

God forbid a semi rear ends it smh

 

[2298754]

Well lets see, for starters a DAEWOO will always start in the winter, Can't say the same for F.O.R.D.s or chevys. 2ndly Daewoo's are reliable they never leave you stranded. I wouldn't call a seized caliper or a blown wheel cylinder "falling apart". All fixed now (hopefully). BTW in case anyone is wondering the code the car throws is P3112

Man, I'm such an idiot. I didn't realize that the metric for a good car is that it should always start in the winter. All hail Daewoo!!

 

[2298754]

not that one that's the previous generation i mean this one:

What is this piece of crap?

Chevy Spark? I'd rather walk than drive that penalty box.

 

[lucasfer899]

Well lets see, for starters a DAEWOO will always start in the winter, Can't say the same for F.O.R.D.s or chevys. 2ndly Daewoo's are reliable they never leave you stranded. I wouldn't call a seized caliper or a blown wheel cylinder "falling apart". All fixed now (hopefully). BTW in case anyone is wondering the code the car throws is P3112

Just stop. None of your statements are backed up with statistics and are blatantly undermined since your car currently has issues starting, was towed to the shop for the brakes, is throwing up error codes, has a seized caliper and a blown wheel cylinder. Stop comparing all the nice, luxury, new, cool and/or interesting cars to your damn daewoo! There must be Daewoo forums for that.