The *COMPLETE* list of 27" 5K Displays?

[DaveF]

I’m wrapping up my 27” iMac to Monitor conversion, and I just found this thread. I’m both glad and bummed it confirms my prior understanding: there’s no 27” 5K-over-HDMI glossy screen options under $1000. Bascially, Apple’ Studio Display is the only option. And even using a USB-C port, the glossy options are still limited to direct-from-china devices.

So, hopefully this Franken-monitor will work for me until there’s a retail option that better fits my interests.

 

[motrek]

I’m wrapping up my 27” iMac to Monitor conversion, and I just found this thread. I’m both glad and bummed it confirms my prior understanding: there’s no 27” 5K-over-HDMI glossy screen options under $1000. Bascially, Apple’ Studio Display is the only option. And even using a USB-C port, the glossy options are still limited to direct-from-china devices.

So, hopefully this Franken-monitor will work for me until there’s a retail option that better fits my interests.

For most people, a 27" 4k monitor will be a good stopgap solution. You probably wouldn't notice a difference in resolution unless you're 21 inches away from the monitor or closer.

 

[hoodlum90]

If every fan of HiDPI monitors (5K/6K/8K) with at least 120Hz would send an email (from different corners of the world) to the panel manufacturers or monitor suppliers, then perhaps they would produce such products more quickly.

A few 27" 4k OLED monitors @ 240hz were announce ahead of CES. Yet the 27" 5k monitors are still stuck at 60hz. It feels like we are paying a premium for old tech.

I wonder if Apple will eventually go OLED with their 27" 5K monitors, possibly as early as next year when the M4 Studio and Mac Pro are announced.

Asus, Samsung, and MSI announce world’s first 27-inch 4K OLED 240Hz monitors

You won’t need to opt for a bigger 32-inch OLED monitor soon.

www.theverge.com

Asus, Samsung, and MSI are all announcing the industry’s next-generation QD-OLED gaming monitors that offer the benefits of 4K OLED 240Hz panels at the smaller 27-inch size instead of 32 inches.

All three appear to be using the same fourth generation QD-OLED panel from Samsung Display, which Asus says offers “a longer lifespan over previous-gen OLEDs.”

 

[Chancha]

B&H has the Benq listed for $1199 with Feb 17 availability. If that price is correct then it will not sell. I suspect we will gat an official announcement at CES in 10 days.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1871575-REG/benq_pd2730s_27_5k_ips_60hz.html

B&H took the page down, oddly. BenQ may want to market this as a color accurate tool with calibration ability in mind, then it has Thunderbolt 4 hubbing. But yeah, I don't see the $1200 pricing fly in the face of the $800 ASUS ProArt MSRP.

 

[T'hain Esh Kelch]

All three appear to be using the same fourth generation QD-OLED panel from Samsung Display, which Asus says offers “a longer lifespan over previous-gen OLEDs.”

They are apparently 5-layered, compared to the current 3-layered, which should help with that, and lower the chance for burn-in.

 

[T'hain Esh Kelch]

It will be interesting to see if these new 27" 4k OLEDs means Samsung will release an equivalent of the Odyssey 49" model, but with OLED and 2k resolution vertically. They have the 57" Neo G9 already, but that thing is HUGE...

 

[hoodlum90]

Has anyone seen any update from Benq for their PD2730S 27" 5k monitor. I was expecting they would announce at least the pricing and availability at CES, as the detailed specs have been available on their web site since October.

 

[turbineseaplane]

That Acer 32" 5k is sweet

Gives me hope that panel might be used in other models from other makers at some point also

 

[marko232]

After using a 4k 32" for the last two years, I really feel like a 27" is the optimal monitor size for productivity.
I have to move my head far too much with a 32" screen and it doesn't feel as ergonomic. Granted I can use it no problem, but I am strongly now considering 'down-sizing' to a 27" 5K. The Asus looks interesting but sadly not as refined as the ASD.

 

[marko232]

Comments:

6K@120Hz results in 62Gbps (8bit) or 78Gbps (10bit color). Both supported with DP2.1 via TB5.

LG UltraFine™️ 6K Monitor (Model 32U990A)​

LG UltraFine™️ 6K Monitor (Model 32U990A)

www.ces.tech

This looks very promising probably around 2,500$. I'm hoping LG will offer a 27" 5k version. The display is IPS black, which is very good (I'm using a 32" 4k IPS black Dell display)

 

[turbineseaplane]

After using a 4k 32" for the last two years, I really feel like a 27" is the optimal monitor size for productivity.
I have to move my head far too much with a 32" screen and it doesn't feel as ergonomic. Granted I can use it to problem, but I am strongly now considering 'down-sizing' to a 27" 5K. The Asus looks interesting but sadly not as refined as the ASD.

Why not have the monitor just be a little further away?
Probably healthier on the eyes too

 

[CWallace]

Comments:

6K@120Hz results in 62Gbps (8bit) or 78Gbps (10bit color). Both supported with DP2.1 via TB5.

LG UltraFine™️ 6K Monitor (Model 32U990A)​

LG UltraFine™️ 6K Monitor (Model 32U990A)

www.ces.tech

This looks very promising probably around 2,500$. I'm hoping LG will offer a 27" 5k version. The display is IPS black, which is very good (I'm using a 32" 4k IPS black Dell display)

LG has confirmed this is a 60Hz panel (almost certainly the same as used in the Dell 6K from last year).

 

[joevt]

6K@120Hz results in 62Gbps (8bit) or 78Gbps (10bit color). Both supported with DP2.1 via TB5.

DP1.4 can do 6K@120Hz using DSC at ≈9bpp.
I believe macOS on Apple Silicon does support DSC target bit depths other than 12bpp.
There's a patch for macOS on Intel Macs to change DSC target bit depth.

 

[CWallace]

Samsung showed off an OLED 27" 5K display at CES. I presume this will be 5120x2880.

 

[joevt]

DP1.4 can do 6K@120Hz using DSC at ≈9bpp.
I believe macOS on Apple Silicon does support DSC target bit depths other than 12bpp.
There's a patch for macOS on Intel Macs to change DSC target bit depth.

I meant to say bpp (bits per pixel) which is the average number of bits per pixel that DSC compresses the source pixels. The source pixels are usually 10bpc (30 bpp), so 30 bpp down to 12bpp is a compression ratio of 2.5:1 and 30bpp down to 8bpp is 3.75:1.

 

[Dark-Signature]

I meant to say bpp (bits per pixel) which is the average number of bits per pixel that DSC compresses the source pixels. The source pixels are usually 10bpc (30 bpp), so 30 bpp down to 12bpp is a compression ratio of 2.5:1 and 30bpp down to 8bpp is 3.75:1.

Generally speaking, are there any concerns or criticisms about data compression during transmission? I mean, is there any loss of quality or is the response time no longer as good? I sometimes read from some users who always have a very negative view of DSC.

 

[joevt]

Generally speaking, are there any concerns or criticisms about data compression during transmission? I mean, is there any loss of quality or is the response time no longer as good? I sometimes read from some users who always have a very negative view of DSC.

I haven't heard anyone complain about DSC, even when it is set to 8bpp instead of the usual 12bpp. But I've only had one person try that.

 

[fluffylucyxmy]

So there have been a lot of 5K display discussions recently... trade show teases of new models, lamentations of the lack of options other than the Apple Studio Display, enthusiastic iMac conversions, LG comparisons, etc, etc. But every once in a while, a post comes along, or you find an obscure reference... "but what about the 5K Iiyama?" What Iiyama? Oh... and you learn about a discontinued display, previously unknown to yourself.

Well, after the third or fourth time having that happen to me, I decided to compile a list, and it was actually quite a bit longer than I expected. At least NINE displays, 17+ if you go by model numbers, or into the dozens if you count conversion combinations. I also encountered some common misconceptions along the way (LG is the only 27" 5K panel manufacturer? False. No 5K display bests 60Hz? False. All 5K displays are IPS? False!). So without further ado, here is my list.

This likely isn't complete, Please post here if you know of any others.
Also let me know if you know how to make a table >10 columns wide on the forum... until then, it's just a screenshot of a spreadsheet... But hopefully someone finds this research helpful.

(The yellow highlights aren't things that are good or bad, just things I thought were of particular interest.)

[Converted to a forum table on 2023-05-27]

Brand	Model	Size	Resolution	PPI	Panel Type	Panel Finish	Brightness	Color	Max Refresh Rate	Inputs	USB-C PD?	Announce or Release Date (earliest)	Price	Status	Comments	URL
Apple + DIY	5K iMac (conversion)	27”	5120x2880	~218	IPS	Glossy	500 cd/m2 (2017+)	P3 wide color (2017+)	60Hz	Varies depending on conversion board.	Yes (some options)	2014-10?	(varies)	27” iMac is discontinued, but display panels and conversion PCBs are still available new.	Conversion via R1811, R9A18, U49, T18, or T19 display driver boards. 2014, 2015, and 2017+ iMacs have different panels (and resulting characteristic / capabilities).	DIY 5k Monitor - success :-) My "latest Macs" are a heavily upgraded 2009 Mac Pro (6c CPU, M.2 SSD, USB 3, RX580...) and more recently a 12c 2013 Mac Pro with an eGPU (Vega 56) - both machines with more than enough CPU power, GPU power and RAM for my needs, but I long aspired to upgrade to a nice 5k monitor to replace my... forums.macrumors.com
Apple	Studio Display	27”	5120x2880	~218	IPS	Glossy or Matte	600 cd/m2	8-bit + FRC	60Hz	Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)	Yes – 96W	2022-03-08	$1599, down to $1300 at sales, or $1359 refurbished	Available	Two stand options, only one video input (HBR2+DSC Thunderbolt or USB-C, or HBR2+HBR2 Thunderbolt).	Studio Display - Technical Specifications View all technical specifications for the 27-inch 5k Retina Studio Display. www.apple.com
Clientop (aka “Clientop Industrial Co., Ltd”) via “Airow Electronics”	“5K monitor display”	27”	5120x2880	~218	IPS	Glossy? (Text says “5K mirror retina screen”…)	540 cd/m2	Not specified	60Hz	“HDMI / DP / Type C / USB”	Not specified	Unknown. (First observed on 2023-05-25)	$1,528.23	Available	Description says it uses the LG LM270QQ2-SPA3 panel. Stand supports tilt, rotation, and height adjustment.	Page Not Found - Aliexpress.us
Dell	UltraSharp UP2715K	27”	5120x2880	~218	IPS	Glossy	350 cd/m2	10-bit	60Hz	1x mini-DP, 2x DP	N/A	2014-09	$2500, down to $2000 by the end?	Discontinued	Requires dual DP cables for full resolution @ 60Hz.	Dell Technologies Official Site | Dell UAE Visit Dell.com to see our technology solutions, services & support. Find our Premier Login, find a Dell Partner, or Book a Sales call today. www.dell.com
HopeStar (aka Hope aka Songren, aka “Shenzhen Hopestar Sci-Tech Co., Ltd.”)	HOP5K27	27”	5120x2880	~218	AH-IPS	Matte,Hard coating (3H)	310 cd/m2	16.7M Colors	60Hz	2x HDMI 2.0, 2x DP	N/A	Unknown. (First observed on 2023-05-25)	$530!	Available	Seller offers OEM branding, packaging, etc, so this same display may appear in the future under other names. By far the cheapest new 27” 5K display ever available.	Wholesale Monitor 27 Inch 2k 4k 165hz Gaming Monitor Pc Computer Screen 2560*1440 120%srgb 1ms Gaming Pc Monitor - Buy 27 Inch Gaming Monitor,27 Inch Monitor 4k 2k 165hz Gaming Monitor,5k Monitor 27 Inch Product on Alibaba.com Wholesale Monitor 27 Inch 2k 4k 165hz Gaming Monitor Pc Computer Screen 2560*1440 120%srgb 1ms Gaming Pc Monitor - Buy 27 Inch Gaming Monitor,27 Inch Monitor 4k 2k 165hz Gaming Monitor,5k Monitor 27 Inch Product on Alibaba.com www.alibaba.com
HP	Z27q	27”	5120x2880	~218	PLS (IPS)	Matte	300 cd/m2	10-bit	60Hz	2x DP 1.2	N/A	2015 (CES)	$1,300.00	Discontinued	Requires dual DP cables for full resolution @ 60Hz. Uses a PLS panel (made by Samsung).	HP Z27q Monitor Review: Aiming For More Pixels www.anandtech.com
Iiyama	ProLite XB2779QQS	27”	5120x2880	~218	IPS	Glossy	440 cd/m2	6-bit + A-FRC	60Hz	2x DP 1.4, 3x HDMI 2.0	N/A	2018-03	$1,077.00	Discontinued	Note low color depth! Uses same glass panel as iMacs (empty hole from camera). Does not support DSC or dual-DP. Full resolution is only available via DisplayPort connections. User report: The Iiyama XB2779QQS (and possibly Planar IX2790, but I've only confirmed it on the Iiyama) can do "dual DP" (aka dual-link SST) for 5K60. It has a Picture-by-Picture mode (#706). This will not result in a "combined" desktop on macOS since the EDIDs don't contain tile information and there's no .mtdd overlay for the display.	Iiyama’s ProLite XB2779QQS: a 27-inch 5K IPS Monitor for $900 www.anandtech.com
Kuycon	G27X	27”	5120x2880	~218	H-IPS	Glossy	520 cd/m2 typical, 590 cd/m2 peak	8-bit + FRC	60Hz	HDMI 2.0, DP 1.4, TB3 / USB 4	Yes – 100W	2022-10?	$779.00	Available	Available in two enclosure styles (one like Apple Studio Display, one like Apple Pro Display XDR) and multiple stands. Max resolution not available over HDMI.	Kuycon G27X Monitors ClickClack.io discovers talented indie keeb designers and brings their products to international market at a fair price. clickclack.io
LG	UltraFine 5K 27MD5KA, 27MD5KA-B?, 27MD5KB, 27MD5KB-B	27”	5120x2880	~218	IPS	Glossy	500 cd/m2	10-bit	60Hz			2016-10-27		Discontinued	Lots of name variants on LG displays… haven’t fully researched the differences, but went with groupings from displayspecifications.com. Early LG units had a soft-recall for EMI/interference issues 27MD5KA are Thunderbolt only. They require dual HBR2 over Thunderbolt for 5K60. 27MD5KL requires Thunderbolt for 5K60 same as 27MD5KA. Max framerate at HBR2 link rate (single DP mode) of LG UltraFine 5K is ≈39Hz even though HBR2 should allow up to ≈46Hz or 47Hz for CVT-RB2.
LG	UltraFine 5K 27MD5KL, 27MD5KLB, 27MD5KL-B	27”	5120x2880	~218	IPS	Glossy	500 cd/m2	10-bit	60Hz			2019?	$1299.99, as low as $905 refurbished (Amazon)	Available	(See above)	LG 27 Inch UltraFine 5K IPS Monitor - 27MD5KL-B | LG USA Discover the LG 27 Inch UltraFine 5K IPS Monitor that features macOS Compatibility and 5K IPS Display. Find reviews, specs, and more for 27MD5KL-B. www.lg.com
LG	UltraFine 5K 27MD5KLB-B	27”	5120x2880	~218	IPS	Glossy	500 cd/m2	10-bit	60Hz				$1,049.00	Available	(See above)	LG 27MD5KLB-B: 27” UltraFine™ 5K IPS Monitor with Thunderbolt 3 & Type C Ports & macOS Compatibility | LG USA Business Get information on the LG 27” UltraFine™ 5K IPS Monitor with Thunderbolt 3 & Type C Ports & macOS Compatibility. Find pictures, reviews, and tech specs for the LG 27MD5KLB-B www.lg.com
Philips	PerfectKolor 275P4VYKEB, 275P4VYKEB/00	27”	5120x2880	~218	PLS (IPS)	Glossy	300 cd/m2	10-bit	60Hz	2x DP	N/A	2015-09? (displayed at IFA 2015)	$1500?	Discontinued	PLS panel (made by Samsung).	https://www.philips.co.uk/c-p/275P4VYKEB_00/brilliance-5k-lcd-monitor-with-perfectkolor, https://www.kitguru.net/peripherals...rilliance-275p4vykeb-5k-monitor-review/all/1/
Planar	IX2790	27”	5120x2880	~218	IPS		440 cd/m2	8-bit	76Hz (60Hz Recommended)	3x HDMI 2.0, 2x DP 1.4	N/A	2018-12?	$765?	Discontinued	Only known 27” 5K display that supports >60Hz refresh rate. Does not support DSC or dual-DP.	https://www.planar.com/media/439284/planar-ix2790-specsheet.pdf
RichVision	RV100	27"	5120x2880	~218	IGZO		500 cd/m2	8-bit	60Hz	HDMI, DP 1.4, Type-C	65W	Unknown. (First observed on 2023-08-27)	$407.31 (2023-08-28)	Available	Available in silver, green, blue, and grey colors.	RV100 RV100 www.richvision.com
Samsung	ViewFinity S9	27”	5120x2880	~218	IPS	Matte	600 cd/m2	"Max 1B Colors"	60Hz	Mini-DP, Thunderbolt 4	Yes – 90W	2023-01	TBD	Coming Soon (June 2023)	Not yet available.	Samsung Electronics Unveils Its New Odyssey, ViewFinity and Smart Monitor Lineups at CES, Igniting the Next Generation of Display Technology The Odyssey Neo G9’s groundbreaking dual UHD 57” curved display paves the way for monitors in 2023 and beyond news.samsung.com 27" ViewFinity S9 S90PC | LS27C900PAEXXY | Samsung Business Australia Explore the benefits and features of this product for your business. Contact Samsung Business Australia today. (High Resolution / LS27C900PAEXXY) www.samsung.com
X-Force		27"	5120x2880	~218	IPS	Glossy	540 cd/m2	"1.07 Billion Colors"	Unspecified, but supports AMD FreeSync?	HDMI, DP, Type-C	Yes - 60W	Unknown (First observed on 2023-08-28)	$548.75 (2023-08-28)	Available	Advertises the use of an LG panel	27英寸5K顯示器鏡...-Taobao 歡迎來到淘寶xforce旗艦店，選購27英寸5K顯示器，100+用戶購後寫下真實評論，其中15人說它性價比高，14人說它色彩驚豔，26人說它顯示效果細膩，11人說它畫面清晰度贊，7人說它屏幕質量很好，5人說它賣家服務很好，2人說它沒有色差，5人說它安裝簡單。快來查看更多買家秀和測評，讓你放心淘到寶！ world.taobao.com

I recently bought the Asus PA27JCV.

 

[CWallace]

Generally speaking, are there any concerns or criticisms about data compression during transmission?

DSC is supposed to be "visually lossless", but there will always be people with "golden eyes" who see artifacts or other defects that may or may not be actually there.

 

[hoodlum90]

B&H took the page down, oddly. BenQ may want to market this as a color accurate tool with calibration ability in mind, then it has Thunderbolt 4 hubbing. But yeah, I don't see the $1200 pricing fly in the face of the $800 ASUS ProArt MSRP.

The Benq PD2730S is starting to show up in Canada at $1649. This ties in to the $1199 US price that B&H had listed. I would rather pick up a used Mac Studio Display for less than that.

BenQ PD2730S 27in IPS Designer Monitor w/ 60Hz, HDMI, DisplayPort, Thunderbolt 4, White - 26 - 29 Inch LCDs - Memory Express Inc.

www.memoryexpress.com

 

[drrich2]

The Benq PD2730S is starting to show up in Canada at $1649. This ties in to the $1199 US price that B&H had listed. I would rather pick up a used Mac Studio Display for less than that.

That's gonna be a very interesting comparison. Looking at the spec.s and going off what I recall of the ASD:

1.) I'm guessing a more plastic body (per PC Monitors - "The stand has a coated metal finish in light silver, providing a solid and premium look and feel. The top and side bezels are dual-stage, with a slim panel border flush with the rest of the screen plus a slim hard plastic outer part."), and height-adjustable without paying an extra $400.

2.) Not as bright at 400 nit, but HDR and 400 is pretty good.

3.) Matte not glossy.

4.) 2,000:1 contrast sounds good for IPS panel.

5.) It's got a Thunderbolt 4 out port. Also an HDMI and DisplayPort. Ought to be a better 'cross platform' device if you want to hook a PC (especially non-Thunderbolt) or video game console to it. Has some hub functionality.

6.) Looks like you don't get the spatial audio of the ASD. I don't notice a built-in webcam (with or without Center Stage) mentioned.

7.) You get both a stand and VESA mounting, not one or the other.

8.) Looks like BenQ warranties new monitors for 3-years; Apple does for 1 unless you pay extra for AppleCare+ (roughly $150).

This would make a good comparison showdown. If you don't care about the built-in sound system or webcam of the ASD, that BenQ might look pretty good.