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bunnspecial

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Also @bunnspecial how come you rarely post in the potd thread? You should be sharing scans of your work.

A couple of things.

For one thing, I'm my own worst critic and don't want to post something I wouldn't print and hang on the wall. I guess I'm self conscious, but I see so much good stuff there that I'm embarrassed to show my meagher attempts.

The second-on scans-since getting married/moving last year, I'm not really set up to scan. My Mac Pro along with my scanners are still set up in my parent's spare bedroom where I put them when I moved back in with them at the start of COVID. My wife and I are still working on getting a good office for me(and really for her) set up in a spare room, but we're not there yet so I haven't scanned in nearly a year.

I do post some digital originals some, and I really should post more, but see my first point.
 

Scepticalscribe

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An extraordinary thread.

Some excellent, informative, instructive and thoughtful responses.

Any camera I have ever acquired, (or washing machine, or printer, or cooker.....etc, etc), I read the manual - carefully and closely - before doing anything whatsoever with the machine or device in question.

@Clix Pix has written thoughtfully of how to intelligently consult, and use a manual.

When I obtained my first SLR, a lovely little Pentax ME Super, (second hand) in my first year as a postgrad and TA, - with my first paycheck for grading term papers and essays (my teaching salary came from a different budget, the university budget, but grading the essays, and term papers, - were paid by lump sum, once a term by the faculty, not the university) - even before making the purchase, I asked a friend in the university's photo club to give me a brief tutorial, and to take me through what mattered in SLR photography - he had an Olympus OM-10, - and he kindly brought his camera in and we sat together while he explained how things worked to me.

Likewise, through the camera club, I was able to lay hands on a manual for my Pentax, which they permitted me to borrow, and which I read closely.

Then, it was simply a matter of shooting several rolls of film, under different circumstances, light conditions, and settings, and seeing what worked, what didn't and what I needed to do and learn; in my experience, fellow photographers were always exceptionally helpful with support, suggestions, and advice.
 
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Scepticalscribe

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To be honest...

You keep saying that the manual is too long to learn all the features.

BTW, none of this is really necessary-back when I was in high school I did my fair share of "sports" photography using a Canon A-1, which is manual focus and manual film advance.
Pre-focusing, anticipation, and timing were the name of the game.

.........

I'd dare say most of us here are not pros, but are hobby photographers or amateurs. Learning all of this stuff is beneficial, though.

This.

And this is exactly what I remember doing when I wanted to capture something where movement mattered - and capture it properly - twenty or thirty years ago using a SLR film camera.

And it worked perfectly, too.
 

bunnspecial

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This.

And this is exactly what I remember doing when I wanted to capture something where movement mattered - and capture it properly - twenty or thirty years ago using a SLR film camera.

And it worked perfectly, too.

Back in the ancient days, there were plenty of sports and action photographs taken with Speed Graphic cameras. You could speed things up a bit using a Grafmatic back, which gives you 6 shots as quickly as you can cycle it, but it's still slower than manually advancing a 35mm or MF SLR. You also had to cock the shutter, and in many case change the flash bulb to ready for your next action shot. None the less, there are some amazing photographs of sporting events and auto races from the 1920s-1950s because people did all of this.

I took my Speed Graphic to an outdoor basketball game once, but didn't have a ton of luck getting useable shots. I also only have one Grafmatic back, so I was done for the day after 6 shots. It was a fun exercise, though.
 
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mollyc

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For one thing, I'm my own worst critic and don't want to post something I wouldn't print and hang on the wall. I guess I'm self conscious, but I see so much good stuff there that I'm embarrassed to show my meagher attempts.
I’m sure you know by now that despite our responses to mr. wolf we are actually quite nice, particularly on the potd thread. Presumably you have oodles of scanned images in your archives. ?
 

bunnspecial

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I’m sure you know by now that despite our responses to mr. wolf we are actually quite nice, particularly on the potd thread. Presumably you have oodles of scanned images in your archives. ?

Trust me, I do know that. Everything I've posted on here has been very well received, and I've also received good critiques in the critique thread.

I will post some old scans...
 

Clix Pix

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I have the feeling that what underlies the wording in some posts presented here has eluded a few readers.....at least what I'm seeing is that there's more than a glint of wit and cutting-edge sharpness (dare we say, sarcasm?) underlying the seemingly innocuous wording of more than a few of the recent posts. Sometimes it is best not to take things at face value and too literally? :)
 

Scepticalscribe

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Wow, things escalated quickly while I was away. What have I learned in 10 pages of comments? Don't get mad, get a film camera!

Actually, - to my mind - that is not the takeaway lesson.

From what I can gather, the takeaway lesson is if you ask for help and advice, then don't dismiss the advice (and those who have tendered it), while making it more than abundantly clear that you have no intention whatsoever of taking any of the advice or helpful suggestions offered.

In my experience, the photography sections are some of the friendliest and most welcoming places to be found on this entire forum, where experienced (and exceptionally talented) enthusiasts are more than willing to take the time and trouble to critique and explain things and are prepared to offer endless advice, encouragement and support.
 
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Apple fanboy

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Actually, - to my mind - that is not the takeaway lesson.

From what I can gather, the takeaway lesson is if you ask for help and advice, don't then dismiss the advice (and those who have tendered it) while making it more than abundantly clear that you have no intention whatsoever of taking any of the advice or suggestions offered.

In my experience, the photography sections are some of the friendliest and most welcoming places to be found on this entire forum, where experienced (and exceptionally talented) enthusiasts are more than willing to take the time and trouble to critique and explain things and offer endless advice and support uncomplainingly.
We would be happy to see you join us in the digital age!
 

mollyc

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Actually, - to my mind - that is not the takeaway lesson.

From what I can gather, the takeaway lesson is if you ask for help and advice, don't then dismiss the advice (and those who have tendered it) while making it more than abundantly clear that you have no intention whatsoever of taking any of the advice or suggestions offered.

In my experience, the photography sections are some of the friendliest and most welcoming places to be found on this entire forum, where experienced (and exceptionally talented) enthusiasts are more than willing to take the time and trouble to critique and explain things and offer endless advice and support uncomplainingly.

We would be happy to see you join us in the digital age!
Yes and you can post scans!!
 
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maflynn

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Its funny for me, I've largely ignored my mirrorless and P&S. I find that my iPhone does a good enough job that I have little to no reason to take one more piece of technology with me - especially since I always have my phone
 

jwolf6589

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Its funny for me, I've largely ignored my mirrorless and P&S. I find that my iPhone does a good enough job that I have little to no reason to take one more piece of technology with me - especially since I always have my phone
I use my iPhone for most things but when I go on vacation or take a trip I bring my Canons with me. Powershot and Camcorder.
 

maflynn

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but when I go on vacation or take a trip I bring my Canons with me. Powershot and Camcorder.
My past few trips, I didn't take any camera, other then my phone. With the pandemic behind many of us, I may be open to a more indepth type of trip, but I don't find myself wanting to lug my camera around, not when my phone will suffice. Just my preference ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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jwolf6589

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My past few trips, I didn't take any camera, other then my phone. With the pandemic behind many of us, I may be open to a more indepth type of trip, but I don't find myself wanting to lug my camera around, not when my phone will suffice. Just my preference ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That’s the approach of most. But to each their own. As for me I like the extra feature set of the Canons.
 

soulreaver99

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Its funny for me, I've largely ignored my mirrorless and P&S. I find that my iPhone does a good enough job that I have little to no reason to take one more piece of technology with me - especially since I always have my phone

Yup, this is very true. 90-95% of the photos I take are from a smart phone, and at the moment an iPhone 12 Pro for me. I take my RX100 V out when I want the extra megapixels, manipulate the f-stop and aperture settings, or want to take a really crisp photo without carrying my A7III mirrorless.

Right now though, there are less and less reasons and scenarios where I would want to take a point and shoot - and the iPhone 12 Pro can even shoot in RAW. Smartphones have gotten so good that most people don't need any other camera to capture those precious moments.

Attached photo for instance - shot on iPhone 12 Pro in Waikiki, Hawaii last month. I know there's a lot of people here that can shoot a more stunning photo with superior equipment and skills but I was pretty happy being able to capture this with what I had on me.
 

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