People say this as if it's something bad, or to be ashamed of.
I don't want to be in any corporation's ecosystem, I prefer them making good products that seamlessly integrate in mine!
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iPhone 14 Pro Max The “I returned my iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max” Thread
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I don't want to be in any corporation's ecosystem, I prefer them making good products that seamlessly integrate in mine!
No, you just seem to have a dislike for them. It’s like you saying the camera doesn’t take better pictures without even having it based on anything. Trust me I criticize Apple when I feel like they’re doing something wrong. I don’t have any kind of just like for them or even Google. They both make great products.
It was just a comment and wasn’t meant to hurt yours or anyone’s feelings. If you can afford to set up your own ecosystem that’s the way to go.
I have dislike for their marketing, not for their products.
But my opinion on the camera system is based on looking at photos side by side, something I do day in day out professionally.
There is no improvement over the 13pro or even the 11pro in 99% of cases. There are some shots that are marginally, marginally better and likewise there are ones where it's worse; overall there is no difference in JPEG shooting despite the better hardware. And the Pixel 6pro is way better despite being a year older and much cheaper.
It's really not hard to measure.
People who have purchased the 14pro thinking they are getting a huge upgrade obviously don't like reading these threads, and that's understandable too.
I’m just ready for the notch/island days to be a thing of the past. This has kept me from buying the flagship devices for what seems like forever. I’m just glad that Apple offers the SE line for the minority like myself. It keeps me on Apple and away from Android.
I don’t really pay attention to their advertisements, so I might not like them either. There’s a lot of things I really dislike about Apple but most of them I can’t discuss here because forum rules. I’ve come to the point in life where I just look at a product and I decide if I like it or I don’t. I don’t focus on other aspects of the manufacturer. Sure if I have a choice between two identical products, then maybe I will take that into consideration, but most of the time it’s not a factor.
From my personal experience the 13 PM was an improvement over the 12 PM. I wouldn’t say huge like going from the XS Max to the 12 PM but it was noticeable for me. I can’t say yet for the 14 PM because I haven’t really taken many photos.
Or...some people look for excuses for not upgrading, to make themselves feel better.
Well, if you go to a modern android phone, it’s going to have an island AKA hole punch in the screen. I don’t think anyone makes a home button android phone.
I can't speak on the 13 line, but the my 14PM takes much better photos vs my 11PM. That's one of the first things I've put to a real test. 14PM vs S22U vs 11PM.
I don’t think most people need to upgrade every year. Unless you’re some sort of enthusiast or tech nerd, I’d say 2 to 3 years.
I have my own ecosystem and so do you. You live in it. I don't want to mold my life around a corporation.
Sometimes a corporation's product ecosystem is about interoperability (of their products), which is a good thing. Often it's purely vendor lock-in (choosing closed protocols, refusing interoperability with anything outside), which is bad for customers. Apple has aggressively been pursuing the latter for a long time.
It's not an advantage to be invested in their ecosystem, it's a huge cost.
Funny how your unscientific post is totally unsubstantiated.
No, any ecosystem is something like having devices working together. It’s like having cloud storage to access files from all devices. This is something you could self host
It’s also like when I can text someone from my iPhone and then continue the conversation on my Mac and then on my watch. Or I can take a picture with my iPhone and it shows up on my Mac so I can email it. Sure you can recreate some of this with a hodgepodge of workarounds but it’s not going to work like the Apple ecosystem. Is all that really needed? Of course not but it is convenient.
like others I have been a early adopter to the new iPhone. Used to stay up until 2am to get my order in years ago. I’m coming to the 14PM from the 13PM and it just seem any different to me. First time ever returning an iPhone.
Returned my 14PM and went back to my 13PM. I figure I’ll wait till next year for the 15’s with hopefully dynamic island (preferably a smaller island?) and USB-C.
That or this week I’m going back to my Xperia. iOS 16 starting to grind my gears asking to allow a copy/paste from app to app. If I go back to android and if I can still trade this in at Apple for >$700 I may get the 14Plus next month to remain in the Apple ecosystem.
That or this week I’m going back to my Xperia. iOS 16 starting to grind my gears asking to allow a copy/paste from app to app. If I go back to android and if I can still trade this in at Apple for >$700 I may get the 14Plus next month to remain in the Apple ecosystem.
This is a return thread. It's for people who have purchased the phone, tried it and chosen to send it back....
You missed my larger point but you're technically correct.
Of course, there's more than that - like iMessage and Facetime, stuff I'm fortunate not to have to use since I'm in Europe.
And yet the large phones still sell like hotcakes (recall that Steve Jobs mocked larger phones and said no one would want them, lol!). I keep my 13PM in a belt holster or in my rear pocket, and it works just fine for me, nor do I have issues handling it (just an average male with medium sized hands). I would never go back to a smaller phone. The larger display is just too nice to give up.
A lot of FOMO here and people bored throwing away money. Just to return them and take away from people that actually want them. Screw each and every one of you doing that causing phones to be delayed.
Yep, not to mention that I saw somebody who said they returned theirs for a different color - for all we know they could've voted "yes" to be funny but it wasn't really accurate to the poll's intent (return, period, not simply exchange) and there may be others doing that. And also not to mention there are plenty of anti-Apple people on this forum that would vote "yes" just out of spite even if they never bought a 14 . . . or Apple fanboys who don't own the 14 (or not yet) who voted "no" to spite the people who voted "yes" etc.
EDIT: Guess I need to add in light of at least one reply to this post - there apparently are also overly literal people who don't understand context and the obvious intent of the poll who are voting "no" because they don't have an iPhone 14 to return 🙄 🤦🏼♂️
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Add me to the list of people returning my 14 Pro Max. It goes back tonight.
I was an 11 Pro to 14 Pro Max upgrade, which I was super-excited about. Previously I had an 8+ which I loved, so I didn't think the 14PM (size-wise) would be that big of an issue. I even went to the Apple Store (before the 14PM went on order) to see the 13PM, trying to get a feel for it. Boy was that different than actually owning the thing for a few days.
I'm 6'3. I teach yoga. I'm athletically fit, and do strength training exercises every day. And god damn do I hate the 14PM. I live in an urban environment, and walk just about everywhere, and the phone is just an ever-present nuisance.
I totally understand the size & weight not being an issue for some. And yes, it's a lovely, powerful phone, with a beautiful screen. But the actual day-to-day use of it, hands-on, and in-pocket, I absolutely hated. And there's no way I would have known that without having real-world usage of the thing. So thank you Apple for allowing your customers to get a feel for something they're about drop $1200 on. I'll end up with a different model, but stay loyal.
(ps for those in a similar position, I just transferred my eSIM back to my 11 Pro with the click of a few buttons, easy-peasy. Took two minutes.)
I was an 11 Pro to 14 Pro Max upgrade, which I was super-excited about. Previously I had an 8+ which I loved, so I didn't think the 14PM (size-wise) would be that big of an issue. I even went to the Apple Store (before the 14PM went on order) to see the 13PM, trying to get a feel for it. Boy was that different than actually owning the thing for a few days.
I'm 6'3. I teach yoga. I'm athletically fit, and do strength training exercises every day. And god damn do I hate the 14PM. I live in an urban environment, and walk just about everywhere, and the phone is just an ever-present nuisance.
I totally understand the size & weight not being an issue for some. And yes, it's a lovely, powerful phone, with a beautiful screen. But the actual day-to-day use of it, hands-on, and in-pocket, I absolutely hated. And there's no way I would have known that without having real-world usage of the thing. So thank you Apple for allowing your customers to get a feel for something they're about drop $1200 on. I'll end up with a different model, but stay loyal.
(ps for those in a similar position, I just transferred my eSIM back to my 11 Pro with the click of a few buttons, easy-peasy. Took two minutes.)
I've already factory reset my 11PM ready for trade in. I still have plenty of photos from my 11PM, but not any that I can take the same shots with my 14PM at the moment.