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Well, the courts said otherwise when his nutty free speech caused others direct harm, which is what happened. There are and should be limits on free speech, per Alex Jones and Giuliani's 2020 election stupidity. Giuliani got sued and lost because he made up lies as well that caused others harm. That's not controlling free speech, that's making people responsible for their actions when they caused other people distress.

This is what I dislike about Rogan, he says whatever he wants but when there are real world consequences or it looks like he's about to get into trouble, he walks back his comments and defaults to saying he's not responsible since he's just some guy on the internet and shouldn't be believed.

He can't have it both ways. Either use your pulpit responsibly or shut your mouth if you can't take the heat.
You think free speech is “nutty”?


Honestly the first amendment ain’t about protecting speech people like

Also per the crazy Alex Jones ruling, where can I sign up for a million + dollar payday for insulting a dead family member, because my dead family members would be 100% cool with someone insulting them if gave me a retirement fund 😂



Also many MSM personalities straight lied about tons of stuff, especially during covid, even about Rogan and they arnt dragged through the mud over it

It’s a interesting double standard

Personally I’d fight to protect the free speech of anyone, heck I’d protect the free speech of Hitler to give a speech, but I’d also fight for the free speech of others to debate and clearly point out the hypocrisy and other blood soaked failures in his thinking

That’s the litmus test in if you’re really for free speech, many are not, which is ok, not everyone has the stomach for freedom, and that’s 100% ok just as long as they only make that choice for themselves
 
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Lol, do you know what that word means?


Please do tell how Rogan is a “racist”
Joe himself has admitted and apologised for his racial behaviour but I guess that’s not enough for some.

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That's a line because you're promoting commiting direct harm to a child.
They may argue it’s good for children.
Exactly like people on the show take money from Big Oil to say that global warming is not a problem or vaccines are bad while the rest of us, the sane people who listen to the absolute consensus of the scientific community and can read and understand data, know very well that molested children are hurt and that global warming and smallpox literally kill people.
If all opinions are just as valid, they can always argue that clearly evil things (molesting children in my hyperbole, fascism, fossil fuels, covid) are actually fine.
 
Fan of uneducated meathead’s podcast triggered by 4 day old joke about said podcast. More at 11.
Joke? Jokes are meant to be funny pal.

And I think Joe Rogan doesn't pretend to be educated. He repeatedly calls himself an uneducated Chimp. However, he's allowed his opinion and the audience tunes in for guests that interest them. The Bob Lazar & UFO stuff is absolutely fascinating for example, whether you believe in it or not. Heck, even the Hulk Hogan episode was great. I love the variation and randomness of it all. And you can't beat a Joey Diaz or Bill Burr episode but no doubt you find them and their language too offensive.

It's entertainment.
 
Joke? Jokes are meant to be funny pal.

And I think Joe Rogan doesn't pretend to be educated. He repeatedly calls himself an uneducated Chimp. However, he's allowed his opinion and the audience tunes in for guests that interest them. The Bob Lazar & UFO stuff is absolutely fascinating for example, whether you believe in it or not. Heck, even the Hulk Hogan episode was great. I love the variation and randomness of it all. And you can't beat a Joey Diaz or Bill Burr episode but no doubt you find them and their language too offensive.

It's entertainment.

He platforms heinous people and then play-acts to cover it up. “Hey, I’m just asking questions here.” It’s very transparent.

Joey Diaz and Bill Burr are not the issue.
 
He platforms heinous people and then play-acts to cover it up. “Hey, I’m just asking questions here.” It’s very transparent.

Joey Diaz and Bill Burr are not the issue.
Many Americans never like open frank discussion, especially when it goes against the narrative that they are drilled to by their hopeless media. Again, simply don't watch/listen if it's not your cup of tea. It doesn't need to be banned & Rogan doesn't need to be deplatformed simply because you don't like the content.
 
If all opinions are just as valid, they can always argue that clearly evil things (molesting children in my hyperbole, fascism, fossil fuels, covid) are actually fine.
Ok, we've stepped into political opinon territory. In that case, it's actually preferable to hear from multiple sides when making your own opinion. Rather than listening to the same source or sources.
 
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Ok, we've stepped into political opinon territory. In that case, it's actually preferable to hear from multiple sides when making your own opinion. Rather than listening to the same source or sources.
These things shouldn’t be political.

There’s absolutely no debate in the scientific community that covid vaccines were safe. Politics may debate who to vaccinate first or if and how to apply green cards and lockdowns but you surely want moronic pothead comedians with zero medical experience who think vaccines are not safe out of this debate.

There’s absolutely no debate in the scientific community that global worming caused by man is damaging the environment. Politics may debate what measures we can afford to apply to fight it but you surely want to failed comedians and screenwriters who very openly take money from the fossil fuel industry and have zero scientific research experience out of this debate.

There’s absolutely no debate in the academic community the Holocaust happened, with pretty little variations on how it happened. Politics may debate what measures can diminish racial tensions but you surely want holocaust deniers with zero academic experience who belong to hate groups out of this debate.

All of this should be common sense. Demonstrably corrupt morons should be kept out of important public debates. The right to have a very stupid opinion isn’t the right to have that opinion broadcasted worldwide.
In every debate there is some degree of selection based on competence. Selecting fringe-opinioned incompetent people is Joe’s specialty. I don’t want Steven Crowder to shape the debate on climate change just like I don’t want Ghislaine Maxwell to shape the debate on the age of consent.
 
These things shouldn’t be political.

There’s absolutely no debate in the scientific community that covid vaccines were safe. Politics may debate who to vaccinate first or if and how to apply green cards and lockdowns but you surely want moronic pothead comedians with zero medical experience who think vaccines are not safe out of this debate.

There’s absolutely no debate in the scientific community that global worming caused by man is damaging the environment. Politics may debate what measures we can afford to apply to fight it but you surely want to failed comedians and screenwriters who very openly take money from the fossil fuel industry and have zero scientific research experience out of this debate.

There’s absolutely no debate in the academic community the Holocaust happened, with pretty little variations on how it happened. Politics may debate what measures can diminish racial tensions but you surely want holocaust deniers with zero academic experience who belong to hate groups out of this debate.

All of this should be common sense. Demonstrably corrupt morons should be kept out of important public debates. The right to have a very stupid opinion isn’t the right to have that opinion broadcasted worldwide.
In every debate there is some degree of selection based on competence. Selecting fringe-opinioned incompetent people is Joe’s specialty. I don’t want Steven Crowder to shape the debate on climate change just like I don’t want Ghislaine Maxwell to shape the debate on the age of consent.
There is ALWAYS debate and questioning in science and academics

When there is non, it’s now politics as science/academics has left the building


The losing thought is normally the one that can’t withstand debate and wants to try to force the other thoughts silent


silencing of opposing views is also a pillar of fascism BTW
 
PS. Overcast for the win
This

When my previous app I used in Castro went down without warning whenever they did last year, I migrated all my podcasts that I had there to Overcast

That was a painful process as unfortunately there was no option to just get your podcasts you had on another platform (so had to do it manually), but overall very well worth it as it offers a lot of things for free that I would have otherwise have had to pay for with Castro (voice booster, speed booster, sideloading, and many other things that not even Castro had)
 
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Many Americans never like open frank discussion, especially when it goes against the narrative that they are drilled to by their hopeless media. Again, simply don't watch/listen if it's not your cup of tea. It doesn't need to be banned & Rogan doesn't need to be deplatformed simply because you don't like the content.

Glib, but that isn’t going to solve the problem.
 
There is ALWAYS debate and questioning in science and academics

When there is non, it’s now politics as science/academics has left the building


The losing thought is normally the one that can’t withstand debate and wants to try to force the other thoughts silent


silencing of opposing views is also a pillar of fascism BTW
By your logic, the scientific community should waste time debating flat-earthes and they should be allowed on mainstream networks to share their lies. We always make a selection.

About your very clever and original “censorship is fascism” comeback… no. Censoring violent and dangerous opinion that undermine democracy and human life is a right and a duty of civil society. If your opinion is directly linked to violence or harm, it is violence, not an opinion. A gangster who asks somebody to kill becomes a killer. Someone who chants about killing an ethnicity is a violent person, not one with a legitimate opinion on the marketplace of ideas.
Also fascism’s censorship is state-driven, we’re talking about private entities here.
 
fascism” comeback… no. Censoring violent and dangerous opinion that undermine democracy and human life is a right and a duty of civil society. If your opinion is directly linked to violence or harm, it is violence, not an opinion. A gangster who asks somebody to kill becomes a killer. Someone who chants about killing an ethnicity is a violent person, not one with a legitimate opinion on the marketplace of ideas.
Also fascism’s censorship is state-driven, we’re talking about private entities here.
Sort of sad that this STILL needs to be debated. I was under the impression that it was well established “Yelling ‘FIRE’ in a crowded theater is NOT a form of protected free speech”.
 
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