I wouldn't expect a bigger update until 2024 and knowing Apple they will leave out a few bells and whistles for the 2025 update and so on.
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iPad Pro The M2 iPad Pro is the worst update Apple has ever released
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No I get that. I do think there are changes that can be made though. The camera placement/front camera quality and battery life are a few that come to mind that would make the iPad vastly improved.
Camera placement, better camera and battery life etc. Those are still incremental upgrades. They might be a big deal to you but they are still just incremental upgrades like going from an A series to M1 to M2 or from 6 to 8 GB of RAM. The truly fresh ideas for the iPhone and iPads are long gone, like Siri.
At this point the only thing that would convince me to get an iPad Pro would be if it has the ability to dualboot macOS, which it's more than capable of doing so since it has the guts of a Mac.
That's.... not how cellular ipads work. It is meant to have its own data plan.
I suppose it's "the worst" for you if you believe each new model is meant solely to appeal to those who buy a new model every year.
As a Windows user (who also has an iPad and an iPhone), I am used to computers being revised 2-3 times a year with new parts and minor spec bumps. 13th gen Intel came out and everyone revised their models. Then the nVidia 4090 came out and they put out newer models again. Next year Windows will get PCI 5 SSDs. There's always a revision happening. Your computer is out of date before you open the box. That doesn't mean that you are the target audience for every revision or you should throw your whole thing away because there is a slightly better one. My 11th gen i7 with a 3070 is still great. So keep your M1 iPads. They are just fine. If Apple continues to rev the iPad line every 12 months, you can jump on board at M4 or M5. For other people with an A12 iPad, the M2 or M3 might be timed right for your needs.
Who said you couldn't?
Similarly, @NARadyk expressed the opinion that it's not that deep, and you could buy the iPad or not.
I don't care about benchmarks either. I don't own an M2 iPad and don't plan to buy one.
So, with that out of the way: why "shouldn't" anyone care about benchmarks?!?
I don't have any problem with your opinion on benchmarks, I share it! What I think is funny/baffling is how so many people aren't satisfied with "the value proposition/whatever doesn't work for me", and leaving it at that.
What's with this seeming compulsion (not just talking solely about your post, OP there are many similar all over this forum), people have to prescribe their opinion onto others? To take an individual calculation and broaden it beyond themselves? What's the goal/purpose there? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
I don't care about benchmarks. I care even less about how others view them, and what their personal value calculation is.
If it's worth it to someone, they should buy it. If it isn't, they shouldn't.
Why be pressed about other's iPad buying habits? Can someone who actually spends time thinking about such things...why? What does it do for you? I'm trying to understand, not saying you "shouldn't" do it...asking why you would.
I think it’s because “voting with your wallet” really only works if there’s a critical mass of people that think the way to do and vote the same way. As far as the iPad goes, we’re 10 years into it. At this point there’s MORE of a chance that someone buying an iPad has either used one before and liked it or has never used an Apple product before and so wouldn’t be comparing it to macOS. That means that the folks “voting with their wallets” are buying what Apple’s selling and it would make sense for Apple to keep doing what they’re doing.
Could be that they’re trying to get a larger group of folks “upset” about the current situation? But, as this MR thread won’t be seen my the vast majority with an iPad Pro in their shopping cart right now, it’s not likely to be effective. However, being effective may not be the point, either. Maybe, it’s just, “There’s a thing happening that I can’t control and I don’t like it.” Which is fine.
Calm down. We get the same stupid update to the iPhone every year except they do something with the camera that only 2% of people will actually care about (except nerds).
The Dynamic Island is the largest major change to the iPhone since the X. Processor increases are becoming marginal as A-Series matures. Nobody actually cares about MP on the camera. Unless you're blowing up the picture for a billboard, you don't need more than 12 MP.
Stage Manager barely functions, probably because of its bizarre UX Design. They seem to have run out of huge improvements to make to the iPad as the product as envisioned reaches its design dead end. In 2010, what they dreamed the iPad as being has become now a reality.
What I see happening is they need to phase out MacOS and start merging iPadOS and MacOS into a product focused on single app usage to enhance productivity. It's what Steve envisioned with the Mac but OSes got distracted by multiple windows on a screen as a talking point (Microsoft).
The Dynamic Island is the largest major change to the iPhone since the X. Processor increases are becoming marginal as A-Series matures. Nobody actually cares about MP on the camera. Unless you're blowing up the picture for a billboard, you don't need more than 12 MP.
Stage Manager barely functions, probably because of its bizarre UX Design. They seem to have run out of huge improvements to make to the iPad as the product as envisioned reaches its design dead end. In 2010, what they dreamed the iPad as being has become now a reality.
What I see happening is they need to phase out MacOS and start merging iPadOS and MacOS into a product focused on single app usage to enhance productivity. It's what Steve envisioned with the Mac but OSes got distracted by multiple windows on a screen as a talking point (Microsoft).
Yep, and they are holding it for the next redesign of the iPad Pro, which will likely happen in 2024 with the addition of OLED screens
Because this is a forum for Apple enthusiasts where we discuss/give opinions regarding Apple products?
And why do you care if I post my opinion? Your post is telling me I shouldn’t care if the M2 iPad is good or not, well why do you care if I comment on it? No one forced you to come into the thread and comment on my post, and yet you cared enough to write a fairly long statement on why others opinions on such matters just baffle you. Circular logic at its finest.
Oh, and I never said I cared if anyone else bought it. I gave my opinions on why I think the M2 iPad is a boring upgrade. I’ve even stated as much in later threads. But I’m glad you cared enough about what I wrote to come in and comment.
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Accept all the people who do actually care. The 48mp lens provides significantly more detail and overall, a vastly improved image for those shooting in ProRAW. This is a pro phone and to make an assumption that people don't use or need the extra MP is simply ignorant.
I'm using a M1 Pro 12.9 inch and it works flawlessly for me and is a neat way to manage multi tasking. Not sure why it wouldn't function for you, unless you are blindly looking for things to whinge about if they don't suit your narrative?
There is also the advantage of improved capability to crop the image. And more than just "nerds" care.
It has been a delightful replacement for our 9-year-old iPad Mini, so, it feels like a pretty substantial upgrade from that.
I don’t understand why people feel year over year upgrades have to be a big change. The M2 iPad isn’t marketed at people with an M1 iPad. Apple makes these gradual upgrades so that way when you buy the product you have the latest current technology. Sure they could just wait longer and upgrade to M4 but then if you bought the M1 right before M4 came out, you would be further behind. With gradual updates when you buy the product it’ll still be current.
This is like saying the 2023 Toyota Corolla, is the worst upgrade over the 2022 Toyota Corolla. Toyota isn’t marketing the 2023 Corolla at customers who currently owns the 2022 model. It’s for someone who has a 2018 Corolla. It’s the same thing with the M2 iPad.
This is like saying the 2023 Toyota Corolla, is the worst upgrade over the 2022 Toyota Corolla. Toyota isn’t marketing the 2023 Corolla at customers who currently owns the 2022 model. It’s for someone who has a 2018 Corolla. It’s the same thing with the M2 iPad.
Exaggerate much?
The worse update, hands down, was the Power Macintosh 5200 LC, which was the update to the Macintosh LC 550 (also known as the Performa 5200). It was slower, unstable, no hardware handshaking, memory bottlenecks, and overall badly designed.
https://lowendmac.com/1997/performa-and-power-mac-x200-issues/
Which is just like the M2 iPad Pro 🙄
The worse update, hands down, was the Power Macintosh 5200 LC, which was the update to the Macintosh LC 550 (also known as the Performa 5200). It was slower, unstable, no hardware handshaking, memory bottlenecks, and overall badly designed.
https://lowendmac.com/1997/performa-and-power-mac-x200-issues/
Which is just like the M2 iPad Pro 🙄
Without a doubt, congrats as it is no doubt an awesome upgrade from your perspective.
I'm not saying year over year upgrades have to be a big change. This will be 5 years of the same design. And you can't compare cars to iPads, they aren't a comparable purchase dollar wise.