The fact you can't see it on your iPad doesn't mean the problem isn't there. I can clearly see the jelly scroll on my mini.
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iPad mini The Myth of Jelly Scroll
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Jelly-Scroll deniers claim that it doesn't exist. Jelly-Scroll apologists claim that it always existed. Reasonable folk have been advocating that people check for themselves... because not everyone is sensitive to jelly-scrolling.
Glad to hear that you eventually checked for yourself.
Hoo Doo Dude provides some facts and reference material, so you jump to the conclusion that Hoo Doo Dude is "defending" poor quality and is "happy" with it.
This seems like putting words in another's mouth, then attacking that person for those words.
Personally, I think Apple should have done horizontal, not vertical, refresh on the iPad Mini 6, like previous iPad Mini models, then people would not have noticed it. The jelly scrolling would still be there (but in landscape orientation), like all previous iPads, but not obvious.
I agree. The beauty of the mini for me is holding it like I would a book - the only time it's ever in landscape mode is when I'm watching a movie.
It's real, it sucks, and I would get any other iPad instead of the mini. If you can't see it or it doesn't bother you, then no problem.
Do you ever wonder... why does this matter. Are these people really reading while they scroll? It's highly unlikely. Are they trying to get their device to perform some kind of StarWars crawl while they read? I don't know about you but I read to the end of the page, scroll up to refill the page, and read again. I guess they just take for granted that they have this magic device in their hands that contains more knowledge than the lost library of Alexandria AND you can watch a crystal clear video on it. When I was in school I had an Apple IIgs, complete with screen burn-in. Did you hear me Jelly Scrollers! SCREEN. BURN. IN! How would you like to read a faint Apple //e on EVERYTHING you do. Sigh, now I just feel old.
The Mini 6 performs like a budget Chinese product from six years ago. In no particular order we have the jelly scrolling, the scaling issues, the laggy keyboard, the cheap feeling wobbly hardware buttons and the slow charging.
It's a tremendous shame because the form factor is superb. If only Apple hadn't skimped on the spec, components and build quality....
It's not a budget priced product either so it's really baffling.
Yes, people scroll; it is likely because they are used to using a smartphone, where reading while scrolling on the small screen is much more efficient than flipping down one "page" at a time (especially as there are no "pages" as such). So this behavior is naturally carried over to a small iPad held in portrait orientation. So I can understand why it is really obvious to people used to scrolling while reading on smartphones.
Note that iPhones also have jelly scrolling, but in landscape orientation. If you scroll a 60Hz iPhone in landscape, you can see it if you look for it.
One thing that exacerbates it is the narrow aspect-ratio of the screen. The narrower the screen, the more slanted the jelly lines become, because the vertical offset remains the same while the horizontal width is reduced. Comparing a Mini 5 in landscape and a Mini 6 in portrait side-by-side, the difference is drastic. It’s so stark that I’m wondering if not something else is also going on with the display controller, though I don’t know what that could be.
I can see if I look for it, but I've become numb to it now. The only time I natural notice it is when scrolling vertically quickly on these forums or Reddit when used in portrait. My main use of the iPad mini was to be an eBook and manga reader though - so I primarily scroll horizontally.
It's disappointed to be sure and shouldn't be in a $500+ device, but it's not a dealbreaker by any means.
It's disappointed to be sure and shouldn't be in a $500+ device, but it's not a dealbreaker by any means.
While fixing my MacBook Air today, I take a look at all apple iPadOS and iOS devices on sale at the moment, specifically looking for jelly scroll effect. To my surprise, even the most expensive iPhone and iPad (iPhone 14 Pro Max and iPad Pro 12.9" M2) experience jelly scroll effect, but only visible if I concentrate and look at it. iPad Mini otoh, the jelly scroll effect is so obvious many would probably notice it without outright looking for it.
The moral of the story is, jelly scroll effect is visible for all LCD/LED screens as long as they generate picture using the exact same method used back in CRT days: draw pixel one at a time, from top left corner to the top right corner, back to the left end of second line, pixel by pixel until reaching the right end, rinse and repeat until all the images are displayed completely, jelly scroll effect will never go away during scrolling. Funny enough, Apple’s Pro XDR display doesn’t seem to suffer this effect, so does “newer” studio display.
Still, this cannot deny the fact that Apple is indeed cheaping out on iPad mini Display or creating a design that doesn’t fit well for typical iPad mini use case.
The moral of the story is, jelly scroll effect is visible for all LCD/LED screens as long as they generate picture using the exact same method used back in CRT days: draw pixel one at a time, from top left corner to the top right corner, back to the left end of second line, pixel by pixel until reaching the right end, rinse and repeat until all the images are displayed completely, jelly scroll effect will never go away during scrolling. Funny enough, Apple’s Pro XDR display doesn’t seem to suffer this effect, so does “newer” studio display.
Still, this cannot deny the fact that Apple is indeed cheaping out on iPad mini Display or creating a design that doesn’t fit well for typical iPad mini use case.
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I bought a mini a couple days ago when they were on sale. Jelly scrolling is definitely prevalent, and I saw it right away. Is that gonna affect my personal experience or whether I keep it? Don't know. 🤷🏼♂️
Holiday return policies FTW lol
Holiday return policies FTW lol
How are you getting along with keyboard lag whilst typing and do you have a loose Touch ID or wiggly volume buttons?
I just checked my Mini 6 and it does not have any looseness in the buttons - just a nice positive click as I would expect. The volume buttons feel exactly like those on my iPad Pro.
I can't detect any keyboard lag, either, no difference from my iPad Pro.
Perhaps you have a poor quality or defective one?
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Mine have a positive click when pressed but there is play in all three buttons within their orifices in the casing. If I rest my finger lightly on the buttons and don't press them I can wiggle them from side to side. Also if I shake the iPad lightly I can hear the volume buttons rattling. It's a cheap feeling and cheap sounding experience. I use PIN unlock and the volume in control centre to adjust sound levels just because I hate pressing my cheap feeling, loose buttons.
A bit of research online shows that it's a common issue with iPads and iPhones....
As for the typing lag I can type faster than the keyboard can keep up and that has never been the case on any of my other devices. I downloaded Gboard and that was just the same so I'm not sure what might be causing the problem? I can't think that typing on all iPad keyboards is like trudging through snow.
Tell me you're legally blind without telling me you're legally blind.
The jelly issue on iPad mini 6 has been proved since early days and all ones in an Apple Store I tried had the same issue. This did let me hesitate for a while yet I still decided to get one in May. I’ve been enjoying it much and the issue is minimal for me.
Not a myth it does exist, I think personally it’s more prevalent on the iPad mini for 2 reasons…
1. The screen size in portrait is narrow enough for your eyes to see both sides of the display simultaneously.
2. The fact they put the controller board in such a way that jelly scrolling is prominent in portrait, I personally think had apple have placed the controller so the jelly scrolling was in landscape I doubt it would have gained as much of a jellygate issue.
With the said, it’s one of those things you only ever notice if your actively looking for it but in general usage I pretty much forget about it.
I think the bigger issue for me with the mini is the fact there is no silver colour option… still haven’t got over it to this day 😂
1. The screen size in portrait is narrow enough for your eyes to see both sides of the display simultaneously.
2. The fact they put the controller board in such a way that jelly scrolling is prominent in portrait, I personally think had apple have placed the controller so the jelly scrolling was in landscape I doubt it would have gained as much of a jellygate issue.
With the said, it’s one of those things you only ever notice if your actively looking for it but in general usage I pretty much forget about it.
I think the bigger issue for me with the mini is the fact there is no silver colour option… still haven’t got over it to this day 😂
Starlight looks like silver to me although it looks slightly pink sometimes.
Thanks for the support! The very video you refer to illustrates well how minor this is and how every 60 hz lcd display will show this in slow motion. Naturally if you only use your device while watching playback in slow motion it will be a problem. In case you missed it that was the point of the video. The person that posted this agrees with me.
“In normal usage you barely see it, but every now and then it become noticeable. In landscape it goes away entirely”
This appears at no greater a degree than any other 60 hz refresh lcd panel.
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