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I was hoping for $4999 with 32GB/1TB SSD/Vega 56 or even a Vega 48. The 580X is old hat and the 256GB SSD in the base Pro box is laughable. Even 512GB would be palatable. The $999 for the stand is someone at Apple smoking crack! Even the audience sputtered on that one.

They know that most deployments are going to use the VESA adapter, the stand is a pure prestige item
 
It isn't.
8 cores, 32Gb of ram, 256 SSD.

It isn't 2016 anymore.

And Apple isn’t Dell, HP or Boxx...I am not sure what everyone expected. The $6000 starter price was rumored a few months ago. I was hoping for lower...it’s out of my reach, but I can do what I need to do with a Core i9, so it was always a bit of wishful thinking on my part.

The display, though, will be well worth the money for those who need that kind of color reproduction. The pricing is pretty damn incredible compared to what has come before.
 
And Apple isn’t Dell, HP or Boxx...I am not sure what everyone expected. The $6000 starter price was rumored a few months ago. I was hoping for lower...it’s out of my reach, but I can do what I need to do with a Core i9, so it was always a bit of wishful thinking on my part.

The display, though, will be well worth the money for those who need that kind of color reproduction. The pricing is pretty damn incredible compared to what has come before.

Yeah - if your dell or HP breaks, they send a technician to your location - not drive 100 miles to the nearest Apple Store, so they can ship it out to another location to actually repair it.

It isn't out of my reach, but why on earth would I spend $6,000 for an 8 core, 32Gb ram box, when I can get a 16 core, 128 gb ram box for 20% less? OSX isn't that good anymore.

You are certainly right about that display.....
 
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I'm really not sure why apple slapped the non "pros" with this. The old Mac Pro used to be for both pro and "prosumers." Not anymore.

Here's the receipt for my 2008 Mac Pro:

MAC PRO CTO


Z0EM

$2,329.00

1

$2,329.00

Inflation:

$2,329 in 2008 → $2,764.34 in 2019

My soul is crushed because they did everything right (with what we know that was shared)....accept the price of entry.


Was that on sale?

The starting MSRP was $2,799 in Jan 2008 which is $3,389.86 in April 2019

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2008/01/08Apple-Introduces-New-Mac-Pro/

The standard 8-core Mac Pro, with a suggested retail price of $2,799 (US), includes:
  • two 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon processors with dual-independent 1600 MHz front side buses;
  • 2GB of 800 MHz DDR2 ECC fully-buffered DIMM memory, expandable up to 32GB;
  • ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT with 256MB of GDDR3 memory;
  • 320GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s hard drive running at 7200 rpm;
  • 16x SuperDrive™ with double-layer support (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW);
  • two PCI Express 2.0 slots and two PCI Express slots;
  • Bluetooth 2.0+EDR; and
  • ships with Apple Keyboard and Mighty Mouse.




With that said 2019 iMac is still much more expensive and your point stands.

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People aren’t giving the monitor enough credit for what it is, sure it’s a high price but its leaps beyond any other monitor that’s ever existed, its an incredible piece of technology that will come at a incredibly high price, get used to it.
 
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Ugly but beautiful. I just want the speed, the cores, the slots, etc.

I was so worried it would be beautiful and horribly underpowered. Will buy some immediately. Only wish there was an nVidia option. I was looking at PC boxes and for what I wanted it was about $12k. There are production house that will but 20 of these at a time. I like all the support from the major developers, Metal had me worried as well.
 
base cpu is 3.5 base 4 oc and 8 cores. I dont see that in the current line up. closest is 3.5 base with 4.2 oc closest would be gold 6144 and thats a $5500 upgrade on a z8.
 
im ok with the small system drive. I only need it for software and os. Everything else is huge.

That would be ok if the computer was actually a reasonable price and they wanted to make profits on SSD upgrades but a $6000 computer and it has a measly 256GB SSD ...plus the RX580.
 
EXACTLY!!! Honestly, if I am equipping a studio to do 4K/8K HDR, I want those things on VESA mounts and swing arms. The Madison Avenue peeps can buy those stands, for all I care.

Yup, in regular offices a lot of desks come equipped with arms and quick release adapters already too. We literally have *boxes* of monitor stands (including I believe a number from older apple displays some people are still clinging to) in a closet somewhere in my office from every monitor because the first thing that IT does is detach the stands and mount everything to your desk when you request new displays.
 
Bloody hell, that price! :eek: :( But beyond that we got the Mac most of us wanted. :rolleyes:

Probably not too expensive to up the SSD to 1T, so not stressed out about that part, but that GPU is borderline a joke. Hopefully a Pro Vega II won't be too pricey to add. :oops:
 
Was that on sale?

The starting MSRP was $2,799 in Jan 2008 which is $3,389.86 in April 2019

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2008/01/08Apple-Introduces-New-Mac-Pro/

The standard 8-core Mac Pro, with a suggested retail price of $2,799 (US), includes:
  • two 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon processors with dual-independent 1600 MHz front side buses;
  • 2GB of 800 MHz DDR2 ECC fully-buffered DIMM memory, expandable up to 32GB;
  • ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT with 256MB of GDDR3 memory;
  • 320GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s hard drive running at 7200 rpm;
  • 16x SuperDrive™ with double-layer support (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW);
  • two PCI Express 2.0 slots and two PCI Express slots;
  • Bluetooth 2.0+EDR; and
  • ships with Apple Keyboard and Mighty Mouse.




With that said 2019 iMac is still
You could lose one of the CPUs to reduce the cost down to what the person paid. The 2006 model could have the CPUs dropped to 2GHz to save a few hundred too.
 
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Speculation is it's the 8180 (https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...inum-8180-processor-38-5m-cache-2-50-ghz.html) for the 28 core, don't know about the entry level
There are no clear analogues for the cores, clock speed and Turbo Boost speeds listed in the ARK. If Apple is using custom version of Intel Xeon 2nd Gen Scalable, then they are having Intel down clock the base clock and upclock the Turbo Boost.

I cannot believe these are going to be new Xeon W CPUs rumored for the Fall, but maybe they are. Bears paying attention to for the next few months. Not that I can afford one regardless.
 
Very wealthy pros. kinda sad. How many people can afford these? geeze.... I wish I had never seen this now..

Again, for those in the back, these arent aimed at prosumers, almost everyone who's going to use these isnt paying for them themselves: they're either having their employer buy them or they're covering them out of business expenses if they run a small business.
 
People aren’t giving the monitor enough credit for what it is, sure it’s a high price but its leaps beyond any other monitor that’s ever existed, its an incredible piece of technology that will come at a incredibly high price, get used to it.

But what is there if a Super Duper Really Nifty Extra Coolio Reference Monitor?
 
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Six grand for the base model. I don't need that kind of power, but if I did, I probably would have fainted at that point in the presentation...but as I don't work in that realm, maybe that's considered reasonable. I do like the design, though. The very first Mac I ever used was a cheese grater in grad school (2006)...memories...

It's a shame they look like great machines, and exactly what I was waiting for. It's just too expensive at $6000 for a base model with only a 256 GB SSD. Why the hell did they go with THAT for the base? The iMac Pro has a 1 TB SSD for it's base model. At least go with a 512 GB. And I bet the SSDs are $600 - $700 to upgrade.

Oh well. I guess I'll be in PC land for a while.
 
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A sign of the times, sadly. If you can get away with Windows, I cant recommend enough, after ten years of Mac I built my own PC a few months ago and it's working out great.

Ditto, brother. I may get a used mini down the line. But it looks like PC Land for me.
 
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