If Apple sent a technician to the location, that would help justify the price, IMO. The cost is in the cooling.
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MP 7,1 The New COLANDER Mac Pro!
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If Apple sent a technician to the location, that would help justify the price, IMO. The cost is in the cooling.
Also anyone notice iTunes is listed as one of the programs included with the MP? Also cool that it comes with extended keyboard in the box.
LOL!!! Yeah, I wanted to to do that at my last job, but no one wanted to pay for the VESA arms, then they couldn't adjust the height on the iMac or monitor and they stacked them on books instead...SMH
Been there done that. We got some desks in that were not tall enough, and for a while we used books to raise the height...
The stand price is insane...I am not sure who thought that would fly. If I was buying this monitor I need the VESA mount, screw the stand anyways. I want maximum versatility not high art. I doubt there will be many takers for the stand regardless. I think Apple does it on purpose knowing that the stand is only for those who want to show off a 6K display and will pay that much money.
I like it too—the machine and display. I might be in the minority. Should’ve made a space gray version. Lol—does it come with a keyboard and mouse?
And that is where Apple falls down for me...don't treat my $20K Mac Pro purchase the same a $299 Home Pod. If I wanted that I would have gotten an iMac on sale at Best Buy.
Apple also needs to offer a better than 3 year warranty on this thing as well. I know most companies aren't going to lease for more than 36 months anyways, but not everyone leases. Just my 2¢.
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Top I/O and power which is better than front I/O for a tower.
The are SATA ports in the picture once you take the casing off, but I am not sure what they are for right now. Someone is going to have to do a deep dive on that very soon.
I wish they would come out with a prosumer version. Maybe with i7/i9, no ECC , less slots, less power etc and bring the price down to a more affordable level.
Same with monitor, just give me the iMac monitor as a standalone with the new design (cheaper included stand)
Same with monitor, just give me the iMac monitor as a standalone with the new design (cheaper included stand)
It looks grate. GRATE! get it?!!! 
Powerful and upgradable, it's what everyone wanted. But, are the graphics cards a custom slot that have to be bought from Apple?
I can't wait to see the videos from MKHD et al, because that's the closest I'm going to get!
Apple know space grey looks better. Pro mouse and keyboard (probably) cost another $500 each.
Powerful and upgradable, it's what everyone wanted. But, are the graphics cards a custom slot that have to be bought from Apple?
I can't wait to see the videos from MKHD et al, because that's the closest I'm going to get!
Apple know space grey looks better. Pro mouse and keyboard (probably) cost another $500 each.
Yes, but after nearly 40 years people expect an exponential increase in features for the same (if not lower) price.
Even people working in businesses have to justify their equipment requisitions. If you're a one-man-band or CEO of your own small company then you may have the luxury of thinking of that $6000 in terms of work hours saved (but may not have the cashflow) but in any larger organisation, you'll have to get it approved by a procurement manager who's bonus depends on cutting the equipment budget and doesn't give a wet slap about work hours because that's not their department.
The price is certainly high and not to be confused with "The Price Is Right", but with that said it appears the management in Cupertino was indeed listening and did provide a truly "Pro" level machine for use by Pros and those with very deep pockets looking for bragging rights. Pay up and get busy creating!
I know that optics is very subjective, but: the _visual_ design of the 2013 blows that abomination called MacPro 2019 out of the water, hands down.
Where did the clean design language of Apple/Ive of old go? That bent steel pipes with those el cheapo feet look like a design student’s first test project. And the turn-knob/handle to lift the cover looks like a flimsy quick’n’dirty afterthought (oh Cube handle, where art thou?).
The 2019 MP beats the 2013 design icon in _technical_ design easily, but the (optical) design language is ... ummm ... targeted at people with lots of money and a very ... individual taste?!
Yes, I really hope they make a mid-level display that would go well with the Mac Mini for instance. Space grey monitor similar to an iMac but with thin bezels and so on.
Where did you see that they were standard M.2 slots? They look like M.2. slots but that's no guarantee and AFAIK in modern Macs, the T2 chip acts as the SSD controller, so its unlikely to be compatible with generic M.2 sticks.
Does anybody have sharp enough eyes to see if those two internal sockets just above the PCIe slots are SATA? (they're either that or DisplayPort - which would be for feeding GPU output to the Thunderbolt ports - but it looks like SATA to me and there seems to be a USB3 port alongside them). That would imply you could fit a couple of 2.5" SSDs or HDs inside for bulk storage.
Personally, if I wanted Apple to choose my display for me, I'd just get an iMac (well, actually, I did) but part of the rationale for getting a Mini or a Pro would be the ability to choose exactly the display I wanted. Plenty of decent "4k" UHD displays on the market.
I wondered the same thing when I read that the T2 chip would encrypt the hard drives. I think there are a lot of questions still to be answered until iFixit can get its hands on one of these things, tear it down, and experiment with some off-the-shelf upgrades. Then we will have a much better idea of just how upgradable and expendable this thing is, and conversely what is proprietary and locked down.
Edit: just realized that my text to speech wrote expandable as expendable. Might turn out to be true so I’m letting it stand.
Having just bought an 8-Core Macbook Pro w/Vega 20, I'm loving it.
However, there is ZERO chance I'm going to spend $12,000+ on an 'entry' level setup. I can see this easily surpassing $20,000+ with storage, memory, and graphics. The design is a boxy 2006 era machine. 2013 at least thought outside the box, literally, with an engineering marvel.
Factor in another $32,000 for the six monitors HAHA probably cheaper than the 1.5TB RAM.
$50,000...I suppose if you're editing a $200 Million dollar Pixar movie. I'll stick with a new Mercedes and iMac Pro.
However, there is ZERO chance I'm going to spend $12,000+ on an 'entry' level setup. I can see this easily surpassing $20,000+ with storage, memory, and graphics. The design is a boxy 2006 era machine. 2013 at least thought outside the box, literally, with an engineering marvel.
Factor in another $32,000 for the six monitors HAHA probably cheaper than the 1.5TB RAM.
$50,000...I suppose if you're editing a $200 Million dollar Pixar movie. I'll stick with a new Mercedes and iMac Pro.
It does have 8 PCIe slots so you could place an expansion card in one of those with room for 4 NVME drives. The Xeon does support bifurcation so a "dumb" card without a PLX chip is all that is needed.
See post above - there's what looks like a pair of internal SATA connections and, feasibly, space for a couple of 3.5" drives inside.
I thought they were m.2 at first, but they actually look almost like mSATA except with a different mounting point, so maybe they are proprietary.
The sockets above the PCIe slots are definitely SATA. The other connector looks like it might be for PCIe power? Except it has 10 pins, not 8... Perhaps it's just its own connector to send power to SATA drives.
EDIT: The SSD modules are the same as the iMac Pro modules. https://everymac.com/images/other_images/imac-pro-ssds.jpg