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MRU

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[/COLOR]It's ridiculous that HTC makes a dev version of the One and charges people more for it. How hard is it to leave the boot loader unlocked, etc? Why can't they be like Samsung? I can root an S3/Note 2 and have a custom rom running in under 10 minutes.[/url]

HTC One X came out months before the S3, but Jelly Bean JUST comes out? That is ridiculous.


How are they charging more for it?
A sim free 64gb dev HTC one is $649 =€500
A 32gb sim free non dev HTC one is €599...


As for Jellybean, the HTC One X AT&T has only just been updated to Jellybean.. blame AT&T for this. Everywhere else internationally it was updated to Jellybean November-Dec 2012 last.

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It does raise the question, if you hate HTC and the HTC one so much why are you trolling this thread ?

If you have nothing constructive to contribute to this thread other than your vitriol and vileness - then please take it elsewhere.
 
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The iGentleman

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Jul 13, 2012
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Not surprised by this at all. If the iPhone 5 had this issue so easily, so will the HTC One.

That's because aluminum is a very soft metal. That's why I laugh when I hear people tout an aluminum build as if it's this superb build quality. Aluminum is very easily damaged and not very durable at all.
 

MRU

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Aug 23, 2005
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Not surprised by this at all. If the iPhone 5 had this issue so easily, so will the HTC One.

Its the main reason I went for silver and bought the case already....

My black iPhone 5 despite being babied has very small area on the chamfered edge where the black started has wear off slightly.

My cousins white iPhone 5 is far less babied than my black and cant see any wearing on the chamfered edges of it.
 

CD3660

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Not surprised by this at all. If the iPhone 5 had this issue so easily, so will the HTC One.

That's true but I don't, for example, find the finish on my MacBook Pros to be especially fragile. So far as my white iPhone 5 is concerned I don't risk it, and keep it covered with an SGP skin. Not had any damage to the metal band or chamfered edges even though these are uncovered.
 

furam90

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The new HTC One pretty much nailed what the iPhone 5 should've been.

If iOS7 doesn't bring a big change I'm gonna switch over.
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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If I get the iPhone 5 or the HTC One (all depends what goes down tonight), I'm also definitely getting the white/aluminum version of either phone.
 

Tig Bitties

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Let me get this straight, HTC is hurting pretty bad right now, and needs a major sales success. Ok, so they announce their top of the line phone, the One, the same month as the Samsung Galaxy S4. Uh, ok smart move.

Now HTC has shipping issues, the phone delayed slightly to mid April or so, right near the Galaxy S4 launch. Yeah, um, not good.

The HTC One "The forgotten phone"

Does HTC realize that Samsung will nuclear bomb their launch, with and adverting campaign that will make Super Bowl ads seem cheap. I feel a little bad for HTC now.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Oct 27, 2009
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Let me get this straight, HTC is hurting pretty bad right now, and needs a major sales success. Ok, so they announce their top of the line phone, the One, the same month as the Samsung Galaxy S4. Uh, ok smart move.

Now HTC has shipping issues, the phone delayed slightly to mid April or so, right near the Galaxy S4 launch. Yeah, um, not good.

The HTC One "The forgotten phone"

Does HTC realize that Samsung will nuclear bomb their launch, with and adverting campaign that will make Super Bowl ads seem cheap. I feel a little bad for HTC now.


Sadly I agree with you 100%. And it's a shame cause it seems like a good phone.

The same thing happened with the S3 and the One X.
 

thehustleman

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Jan 3, 2013
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Let me get this straight, HTC is hurting pretty bad right now, and needs a major sales success. Ok, so they announce their top of the line phone, the One, the same month as the Samsung Galaxy S4. Uh, ok smart move.

Now HTC has shipping issues, the phone delayed slightly to mid April or so, right near the Galaxy S4 launch. Yeah, um, not good.

The HTC One "The forgotten phone"

Does HTC realize that Samsung will nuclear bomb their launch, with and adverting campaign that will make Super Bowl ads seem cheap. I feel a little bad for HTC now.

HTC has been messing up for a while

All they have going for themselves are the best screens and a beautiful design with the ONE, but a design doesn't matter, it's about function over form.

Galaxy S 4>ONE

Couple thar with the lack of a removable battery and no MicroSD slot (which was one of androids best anti - apple features. It was a bad idea to get rid of them, especially since HTC phones typically have terrible battery life.
 

onthecouchagain

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HTC has been messing up for a while

All they have going for themselves are the best screens and a beautiful design with the ONE, but a design doesn't matter, it's about function over form.

Galaxy S 4>ONE

Couple thar with the lack of a removable battery and no MicroSD slot (which was one of androids best anti - apple features. It was a bad idea to get rid of them, especially since HTC phones typically have terrible battery life.


Not to mention their reconfiguring of the home button. Why is home not centered? That makes so much more sense. And why is it to the right side now? All for a stupid logo, purely because of branding.

Couple that with warranted concern of real world battery life, the far awake power/sleep button (the only method to turn on and off your phone), and that makes for some sketchy soup.

Oddly enough, I'm leaning toward an iPhone 5 more than the S4, though. So go figure.
 

SnowLeopard2008

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Oh please, is that why the One X ceased to be relevant a couple months after it came out? And how many more S3s got sold than the lackluster S3?

Have you even used the One X before? It was a terrible device. Poor battery life, botched multitasking, no SD card slot...

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It's ridiculous that HTC makes a dev version of the One and charges people more for it. How hard is it to leave the boot loader unlocked, etc? Why can't they be like Samsung? I can root an S3/Note 2 and have a custom rom running in under 10 minutes.

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People do care.

http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57573133-85/at-t-rolling-out-jelly-bean-to-htc-one-x/

HTC One X came out months before the S3, but Jelly Bean JUST comes out? That is ridiculous.

First, HTC One and HTC One X is not the same so stop using it interchangeably and applying it selectively to suit your argument. In this thread's scope, when I said HTC One, I meant HTC One (not the One X). Bringing up the One X, however good or not it is, is completely irrelevant.

Second, most people DON'T care. Evidence? About half of all Android phones are still on Gingerbread. Not even ICS. Now we are on Jelly Bean and almost into Key Lime Pie (or whatever the next one will be called). If people really cared, they would have rooted and installed a custom ROM. Besides, carrier updates are controlled by the carrier. HTC has no control over AT&T. Neither does Samsung. Or LG. Or Motorola. Or you. Or me.

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Not to mention their reconfiguring of the home button. Why is home not centered? That makes so much more sense. And why is it to the right side now? All for a stupid logo, purely because of branding.

Couple that with warranted concern of real world battery life, the far awake power/sleep button (the only method to turn on and off your phone), and that makes for some sketchy soup.

Oddly enough, I'm leaning toward an iPhone 5 more than the S4, though. So go figure.

S4 is the definition of lackluster. It looks exactly the same as the S3. Maybe uglier. It's still made of cheap and crappy feeling plastic. They still use PenTile sub-pixel matrix. They still use AMOLED displays. SoC is not as great as people seem to think. It's still a slightly modified reference design from ARM! It's still the same gimmicky, useless, DOA, crappy, half-baked software feature spec-sheet padding as before. As TheVerge and Engadget have both noted, practically none of the new software features actually work. And while being able to use the touchscreen with gloves on is actually quite useful, it's not going to be a significant deal breaker. It's basically a rehash of last year's S3. Still the same piece of crap it was last year this year. Samsung seems to think that adding some random word after "S" and finding a few incompetent programmers means the next big leap in smartphone software.
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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Would you jailbreak the iPhone if that's what you decide on?

I don't know. Might have to? Honestly, no clue how Jailbreaking works. Is it easy?

The most important thing is... I have to be able to return it within 30 days, in case I change my mind about the S4 (or the HTC One, but that's becoming more and more of a distant third place the more I read about it).

Is it safe, easy to jailbreak iPhone?
 

x-evil-x

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Jul 13, 2008
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I don't know. Might have to? Honestly, no clue how Jailbreaking works. Is it easy?

The most important thing is... I have to be able to return it within 30 days, in case I change my mind about the S4 (or the HTC One, but that's becoming more and more of a distant third place the more I read about it).

Is it safe, easy to jailbreak iPhone?

its safe and super easy. just do research first about things because you can make your phone glitchy and crash. you can always restore to factory settings. But if you see what my phone can do over a stock ios youd love your phone a ton more. everyone i show my phone too now wants me to do the same thing to their phone. ive had all my phones jailbroken and they where always somewhat slow(last phone was ip4). I still had it jailbroken but it did make it a tad slower. The chip in the 5 is super speedy and you cant tell its jailbroken at all.Still as fast as stock and does so much more. just dont go crazy adding tons of things.
 

onthecouchagain

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its safe and super easy. just do research first about things because you can make your phone glitchy and crash. you can always restore to factory settings. But if you see what my phone can do over a stock ios youd love your phone a ton more. everyone i show my phone too now wants me to do the same thing to their phone. ive had all my phones jailbroken and they where always somewhat slow(last phone was ip4). I still had it jailbroken but it did make it a tad slower. The chip in the 5 is super speedy and you cant tell its jailbroken at all.Still as fast as stock and does so much more. just dont go crazy adding tons of things.

Thanks. That may be the solution.

I fear that iOS keyboard... Ugh :(
 

5aga

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I may go back to Android once the One is finally released. bee going back and forth between iOS and Android for a year and Im already getting bored with iOS again.

I didn't care too much for the S3, in fact it pushed be to the iPhone 5. And the S4 looks to be using the TouchWiz which I can't stand. But this new HTC looks amazing, the design is great.

However I wish we could get a solid release date.
 

tbayrgs

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Jul 5, 2009
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I don't know. Might have to? Honestly, no clue how Jailbreaking works. Is it easy?

The most important thing is... I have to be able to return it within 30 days, in case I change my mind about the S4 (or the HTC One, but that's becoming more and more of a distant third place the more I read about it).

Is it safe, easy to jailbreak iPhone?

Jailbreak is VERY easy--much more so than unlocking BL and rooting Android devices. The latest JB tool (Evasion) is simply a single click solution.

I just brought out my iPhone 5 to use for awhile since it can now be jailbroken (was getting ready to sell it) and to take some time off from my Note 2 (bad case of an Ingress addiction, need to remove the temptation ;))--jailbreaking immensely improves the experience. As x-evil-x mentioned, pick and choose the tweaks/add-ons that you'd like to use rather than just loading up whatever looks interesting as there are bugs out there that can affect performance (i.e. Auxo, which an awesome mod to the multitasking tray, can kill BT pairing capabilities). The Hacks section of these forums is a great place to get info on favorite mods.

This article includes many of the most popular/useful (and stable) jailbreak apps available. I really like Auxo, have used SBSettings for years (iPhone version of Power Toggles in Android), MapsOpener makes Google Maps your default maps app, going to give Stride as go as unlocking alternative. Tons of stuff out there (much of which should already available without a jailbreak ;)).
 
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onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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Jailbreak is VERY easy--much more so than unlocking BL and rooting Android devices. The latest JB tool (Evasion) is simply a single click solution.

I just brought out my iPhone 5 to use for awhile since it can now be jailbroken (was getting ready to sell it) and to take some time off from my Note 2 (bad case of an Ingress addiction, need to remove the temptation ;))--jailbreaking immensely improves the experience. As x-evil-x mentioned, pick and choose the tweaks/add-ons that you'd like to use rather than just loading up whatever looks interesting as there are bugs out there that can affect performance (i.e. Auxo, which an awesome mod to the multitasking tray, can kill BT pairing capabilities). The Hacks section of these forums is a great place to get info on favorite mods.

Are there any keyboard alternatives that can be made default after JB?
 
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