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onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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I'm only making that assumption based on your previous post history regarding the HTC and the One in particular.

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Then ya need to dig further, mate. I was (and still am) thoroughly interested in the One. However, given HTC's history, and given my experience with the HTC One X, I have cause for my concerns. As for the home button, I just see no reason why it's on the right instead of the center. The only reason I can see, and quite plainly, is to put the HTC logo there. And that's just lame.

Really depends what happens March 14th, but if you look up my feelings on the S4 leaks, you'll find I'm not impressed so far with them.
 

MRU

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Aug 23, 2005
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Then ya need to dig further, mate. I was (and still am) thoroughly interested in the One.

Really depends what happens March 14th, but if you look up my feelings on the S4 leaks, you'll find I'm not impressed so far with them.

I was digging ;-)


Verge review confirms all my reservations of the HTC one.

The home button placement on the HTC One makes me really hate the device, especially because it's where it is because of a logo.

Gross.


This. And their notorious lack of battery management. Makes it hard to jump on board despite its good looks.


Just don't trust htc.
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Great as this phone looks, there are some obstacles that I worry about.

1) I don't trust HTC and their battery capacity/management.
2) I hate HTC's power button placement. It's like they're making it intentionally hard to reach.


So you can see how an assumption can form or be misleading ;-) I meant no offence at all by assuming it - its just how your posts led me to believe.
 

MRU

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Fair enough.

:)

I was just saying in the other thread, the power button thing could be alleviated if they introduced software to unlock the phone similar to the way the z10 unlocks. That would solve much of the issue with power button placement.

At least it can't be as bad as my HTC 8X though, oh man that was AWFUL not because it was at the top of the device, but because of how it was recessed and small too. It was a pain to use.
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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:)

I was just saying in the other thread, the power button thing could be alleviated if they introduced software to unlock the phone similar to the way the z10 unlocks. That would solve much of the issue with power button placement.

At least it can't be as bad as my HTC 8X though, oh man that was AWFUL not because it was at the top of the device, but because of how it was recessed and small too. It was a pain to use.

That's definitely a solution. Will the screen recognize touch though if it's sleeping? How does the Z10 do it? And what might that do to the batteries for the HTC? Again, I fear HTC's battery history will continue with the One.

As for your idea, I've likewise been using Power Widgets on my Nexus 4 to create a dedicated widget on my main screen that shuts the device screen off. Helps bring down the usage of the physical button.

Don't know if you see it there, center-left:

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Peterg2

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Jan 28, 2008
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Without wishing to get into this imbroglio between the two of you, I have to admit that the verge reviews of both the Xperia Z and that of the One when it comes to how they tested battery life are superficial to be most polite. I used to like the Verge a lot but it would appear that they have moved away from providing detailed reviews and merely wish to be one of the "first to press". Their reviews seem more "previews" than actual "reviews". They seem to be more akin to a content farm.

Anandtech are, on the other hand, have a totally different approach and Brian Klug and Anand Lal Shimpi (who with major reviews of cell phones co-author) do detailed, evidence-rich, reports. The comments by Brian Klug emphatically contradicting the Verge "review" have far more weight to me than the comments of the latter.
 

robstunner

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Jun 29, 2010
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http://tchno.be/WFZNU4

Looks like the camera on the one is still on par with the stuff that's out now. I would consider that subpar from all the hype it's getting. Still might consider getting one knowing my addiction can never fully stop.
 

fr4c

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HTC + Battery Life does not fit in the same sentence.

I've been burned multiple times in the past by HTC and the lackluster battery performance that you get out of their devices. They all start the same way; top of the line specs that are usually the front-runners of new tech (LTE, SoC's, displays, etc.) And then they decide "oops we reached our budget or intended market price level so lets throw a left-over Seido battery rated at half of what the device actually needs".

Stop giving me excuses of a fix in order to satisfy users by embedding battery saving modes that cripple the phone such as turning off all data so no push notification or emails comes through.

/end rant

Now the HTC One is a beautiful phone, probably my favorite out of all of their devices, which dates me back to using their WinMo devices. The specs are to die for and its finally nice to see a premium Android device built with premium materials instead of the Samsung infatuation with poly/plastics. HTC has always been touch-notch in my opinion as far as quality is concerned, and I was extremely excited when word first broke out about their new premium device that is to revive HTC from the gutters and make them relevant again in the mobile device market. But until they can figure out their battery woes I refuse to buy another one of their devices until they invest more time and R&D to figure out how to integrate a larger and/or more efficient battery in their phones.

It's like buying the new Lamborghini Veneneo and finding out that it only has a 5 gallon tank good for 50 miles of range between fill-ups.
 

akuma13

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Well I canceled my UK preorder. Handtec and other retailers says its delayed until the end of the month. I was hyped about getting the One but the camera reviews are giving me pause.
 

Peterg2

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And this type of news worries me more as it seems to confirm all the low yield rates with the camera components.

It makes no difference to me if it is delayed a few weeks here and there as I would not buy on launch date in Canada anyhow. What is a concern is that with the alleged poor yield rates the camera may well turn out to be problematic with greater unit-to-unit variability in performance and reliability.

Not that I am a shareholder in HTC, but I fear if these lower yields result in greatly reduced sales (seems obvious) then the comeback by HTC may be stillborn. Yes, it is still making a small profit but I do wonder if it will simply reach the point of not being able to recover to a decent share of the market (worldwide they are behind even Sony I believe).
 

Menel

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Well, every way but one: oddly, the screen doesn’t get very bright, and it can be hard to see outdoors in sunlight.
--Verge

No surprise there, tinier pixels, mean less light passes through LCD matrix. You need exponentially more backlight to push higher density displays.
 

MRU

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Aug 23, 2005
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--Verge

No surprise there, tinier pixels, mean less light passes through LCD matrix. You need exponentially more backlight to push higher density displays.
I'm skeptical over the verge review myself, it was very nitpicky and contrary to a lot of other reviews. Take the latest review on Engadget about the display

it's difficult to get any better; and we could see the display without a problem in the direct sunlight

Or the camera

In short, even though it's not perfect and we'd love to be able to get more detail from zoomed-in shots, the One's UltraPixels methodology appears to be completely sound. We're confident enough in its quality, in fact, to declare the One as our new go-to camera.

Battery got 6.5 hours screen on time running HD video. Not too shabby and about same as the other high end phones put there. Not exceptional but better than the HTC One X which gets about 4 hours screen on time.

Now for the moment of truth: in our rundown endurance test, in which we play an HD video on endless loop, the One made it through six and a half hours before all of its juice was sucked dry -- an average result
 
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akuma13

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Yep very positive review from engadget. I like that they had plenty of photo samples to share. I'm surprised that they didn't knock the camera for the lack of detail in images but is seems they are acknowledging it for what it is. A good camera to capture moments and put up on Facebook/twitter.

Its a hard pill for me to swallow but that's what it is at the end of the day.
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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Engadget review is better but they also point out the uncomfortableness of the two button configuration now. :/
 

MRU

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A good camera to capture moments and put up on Facebook/twitter.

Its a hard pill for me to swallow but that's what it is at the end of the day.

Yeah pretty much exactly what the majority of people use their smartphone cameras for I suspect.

I take loads of photos on my phones, none are ever printed nd most are downsized for Instagram / twitter and Facebook.
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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Is the HTC delay official? I'm hearing conflicting reports.

This does not bode well going into Samsung's event. If Samsung can get the S3 release to be a month, two months, maybe even weeks after the HTC One's release, they'll really help themselves.

I need a new phone until these phones come out. Might have to bite the bullet and get an unlocked iPhone 5 for a bit.
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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You know what else I'm not too crazy about? The app drawer. After seeing it in action in videos, what the heck is the deal with scrolling up/down?

Why is HTC trying so hard to make Android different, but in all the worse ways?

-The changing of the home button from the center (all for a logo). I've yet to hear a sensible reason to remove home from the center, or at least not make the HTC logo itself home.

-Blinkfeed being unremovable (you can change which is your home screen, but Blindfeed is always a home screen. If I'm mistaken, please correct me. That would be nice information to know. I forgot which review said it best, but any user can install and use Flipboard so easily, that BlinkFeed just doesn't seem necessary to force).

-The app drawer scrolling up/down instead of pages left/right.

What's the deal, HTC? :( The hardware is so ace (minus a few poor decisions), but the software so lame.
 

Sensamic

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Mar 26, 2010
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The good thing about Samsung is that I'm gonna buy the official 3.100 new battery for the SGS3 in the next couple of weeks. That way I'll have even better battery life, with no need to buy the SGS4.

I would not be able to do that on HTC, thus forcing me to change phone if I'm not happy with their battery life.

Advantages of removable batteries. You can increase it for one bigger.
 

TheMTtakeover

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Aug 3, 2011
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What do you think the developer support for the HTC One will be like? I know cyanogen always has support for Samsung do you think the developer support will be decent or no?

I have my doubts because of the camera software and such.
 

Peterg2

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Jan 28, 2008
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The good thing about Samsung is that I'm gonna buy the official 3.100 new battery for the SGS3 in the next couple of weeks. That way I'll have even better battery life, with no need to buy the SGS4.

I would not be able to do that on HTC, thus forcing me to change phone if I'm not happy with their battery life.

Advantages of removable batteries. You can increase it for one bigger.

So merely by increasing your battery life on an almost 1 year phone is all you need? Nothing else appeals to you in the potential of the S4? No display improvements, processor, etc?
 
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